Duterte's Summary Execution Policy

[London_Manila]

Duterte's war on drugs has all been done before and this approach has never been proven to produce any real long term reduction in drug use
Thaksin tried the shoot to kill approach in Thailand and look where that got him
Even last week John Kerry had to remind the president and his staff that there is such a thing as human rights

So what has this policy produced so far

Over 350 people murdered by the police
Vigilant groups murdering people
Police ambushing people and murdering them and then giving some lame excuse that there was some big gun battle
in many cases there is no gun battle at all its just summary executions by the police
Local scores being settled by the local henchman and the murdered victim being accused of being a drug pusher

The fact that Duterte thinks that its such a great idea to upgrade his policeman to "on the spot" executioners speaks volumes

I am anti drugs and i always have been and i detest these drug pushers like everyone else but this approach is very short sighted and i predict that this policy will be the downfall of Duterte
Is it so difficult to arrest these drug pushers and put them before the courts where at least they can get a fair trial and if proven guilt locked away for many years

Surely a right and proper justice system is preferred over Duterte's infamous Death Squads

The Philippines seems to be moving to a one man dictatorship now which is a real shame

[Steve.r]

Totally agree

[grahamw48]

The man and his 'policies' :crazy: make me fearful of actually going to the Philippines. :NoNo:

[Steve.r]

He is a bit dictatorial in my opinion. He should realise that with great power comes great responsibility.

[raynaputi]

A friend of my cousin was gun downed last week. I saw her posts in Facebook about it. The lady was killed inside a jeepney and they still don't know why. She was a 26 y.o. professional I think. I believe her relatives and friends have contacted Gen. Bato (the PNP chief) and they were told that he really doesn't care if there are innocent victims along the lines of these summary execution killings and was laughing even at these instances. Now I don't know if all these are true, but I don't know, these are friends & families of the victims that are seeking justice. They still don't know what the motive of the killing was or if it'll be really get investigated.

[Steve.r]

Sorry to hear that Rayna. Looks like open season and collateral damage means nothing. :crazy:

[fred]

A friend of my cousin was gun downed last week. I saw her posts in Facebook about it. The lady was killed inside a jeepney and they still don't know why. She was a 26 y.o. professional I think. I believe her relatives and friends have contacted Gen. Bato (the PNP chief) and they were told that he really doesn't care if there are innocent victims along the lines of these summary execution killings and was laughing even at these instances. Now I don't know if all these are true, but I don't know, these are friends & families of the victims that are seeking justice. They still don't know what the motive of the killing was or if it'll be really get investigated.

I also lost a Euro friend that was gunned down by 2 shabu addicts while he was driving along a quiet road with 50K on him on his way to pay his workers..
No one cared about him either..
Then there was my Filipino friend whose son (shabu user) that got shot outside the elementary school that my nieces go to a 1000 meters from my house..The guys that did it were paid hit men of the local drug lord that he owed money too.. No justice in either incident.. Lots of other drug related murder of local cops and ordinary Filipino`s and foreigners that I could mention.
I`m not saying that I think whats going on is OK..I just think most people round here are beginning to feel a lot safer since he took office.
That aside..Many of his anti corruption measures seem worthwhile..To be honest,I`m really impressed with that..
Lets see how it goes.

[fred]

'Bato' to give road rage suspect 'a villain's welcome'


MANILA - The suspect in the road rage killing of a cyclist in Quiapo, Manila last Monday will receive "a villain's welcome" from no less than the chief of the Philippine National Police (PNP).
In a press briefing on Friday, PNP Chief Director General Ronald "Bato" dela Rosa said Vhon Tanto, who was arrested in Masbate (http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/29/16/quiapo-road-rage-suspect-captured), will be brought to the Manila Police District (MPD) early morning on Saturday.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/29/16/bato-to-give-road-rage-suspect-a-villains-welcome

http://sa.kapamilya.com/absnews/abscbnnews/media/news-special1/nation/07/29/vhon-tanto-bato-dela-rosa-072916.jpg

[grahamw48]

Phew... if there's anything left of him after all the kickings. :cwm25:

[stevewool]

It does make you think is this a place i would like to call home, but hopefully by keeping your head down it could be

[London_Manila]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708155/Philippines-President-Rodrigo-Duterte-s-war-illegal-drugs-killed-300-people.html

I am amazed that anyone could think that this is a good idea

I recently returned from the Philippines and there is real fear amongst the locals regarding when these death squads will arrive in their part of town

Duterte has put extreme pressure local polices forces to produce results and if not they will be fired

People are even afraid to speak out about all these murders going on and the Police force seems to be against their own people right now

Some people will always choose to take drugs and going around killing people is not going to change that

[fred]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708155/Philippines-President-Rodrigo-Duterte-s-war-illegal-drugs-killed-300-people.html

I am amazed that anyone could think that this is a good idea

I recent returned from the Philippines and there is real fear amongst the locals regarding when these death squads will arrive in their part of town

Duterte has put extreme pressure local polices forces to produce results and if not they will be fired

People are even afraid to speak out about all these murders going on and the Police force seems to be against their own people right now

Some people will always choose to take drugs and going around killing people is not going to change that

No one seems "afraid" around where we live,except shabu runners..
The NBI raided our mayors house the other day..
After a complete investigation she was completely exonerated..
Seems her political opposition tried to set her up... I guess they will be in trouble now..
Ive never seen anything like it here.

[Terpe]

I seem to be living in different world as I've not experienced anyone living in fear.
In the past 3 weeks we have travelled around pretty extensively. Never heard from anyone about being in fear or about any expected death squads.
Almost everyone we come across however do say what a difference has been made to their neighbourhood as the drug pushers and crackhead have gone.

Word on the street in most places is that the price of shabu has increased by 10 fold simply due to a change in supply and demand.

To be honest gang related murders were always a danger to anyone who happened in the wrong place and the wrong time.
Political murders also peak before and after elections.

I'm sure most folks know about sensationalism and the media.

I'm not talking about the rights or wrongs relating to the crack down on drugs in the Philippines just putting another view on how the majority of people living here feel.

As it stands at the moment, anybody at all, whatever their status or position or connections may be is being challenged about reported links to the drugs trade.

[jonnijon]

All seems to be working where I am, loud music off at 10pm, patrol's visit internet cafe's and bars after 10pm to check all the kids have gone home.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[London_Manila]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/specials/map-charts-the-death-toll-of-the-war-on-drugs

Is there any official opposition party in the Philippines? or does it go along the lines that as Duterte won the election he just does as he likes and few people voice any opposition to what he is doing :Erm:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/27/16/kerry-highlights-human-rights-as-killings-mount

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/07/25/16/unsettling-killings-could-weigh-on-economy-sp

[fred]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/specials/map-charts-the-death-toll-of-the-war-on-drugs

Is there any official opposition party in the Philippines? or does it go along the lines that as Duterte won the election he just does as he likes and few people voice any opposition to what he is doing :Erm:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/27/16/kerry-highlights-human-rights-as-killings-mount

Well you have the woolly Liberals with the same old yellow ribbons on the same old yellow shirts..
The same ones that were in power until just recently...
You know..The guys that handled the Yolanda funds on behalf of those that suffered so badly in Leyte and Tacloban...
You know.. The same guys that allowed penthouse suites,a bar with dancing poles for lap top dancers inside Bilibid prison for the Super wealthy drug lords "locked up" there..
Anyway..That`s the opposition party.

[bigmarco]

Well the people have spoken and they've asked for a different approach. You cannot accuse him of deceit unlike his predecessors.
He clearly laid out how he intended to deal with drugs and the people were happy to vote him in.

[grahamw48]

True.

Time will tell.

It's about time the ordinary Filipino people were given a break.

[London_Manila]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/02/16/de-lima-stop-the-killings-now

:ReadIt: i admire her guts for publicly disagreeing with Duterte and his henchmen

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6146854.stm

History has proved these tactics don't work :NoNo:

http://www.ipsnews.net/2007/08/rights-thailand-thaksin-may-yet-pay-for-bloody-war-on-drugs/

[fred]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/02/16/de-lima-stop-the-killings-now

:ReadIt: i admire her guts for publicly disagreeing with Duterte and his henchmen

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6146854.stm

History has proved these tactics don't work :NoNo:

http://www.ipsnews.net/2007/08/rights-thailand-thaksin-may-yet-pay-for-bloody-war-on-drugs/

De Lima has been accused of being a coddler and protector of drug lords inside the New Bilibid Prisons so I take what she says with a tiny pinch of salt..
How about the human rights of Kevin and Charlene Taylor?? Locked up on remand in a Filipino dungeon for 5 years before being found guilty on a technicality and still locked up..
I could go on about what I think about that useless cow but I`ll leave that to the new administration..

[Arthur Little]

De Lima has been accused of being a coddler and protector of drug lords inside the New Bilibid Prisons so I take what she says with a tiny pinch of salt..
How about the human rights of Kevin and Charlene Taylor?? Locked up on remand in a Filipino dungeon for 5 years before being found guilty on a technicality and still locked up..
I could go on about what I think about that useless cow but I`ll leave that to the new administration..

:iagree:, Fred! WHY IS it that those so~called "do gooders" are so fond of harping :23_116_6[1]: on about the "human rights" of the evil dooers - the dregs ... the scourge of society, who care not a jot how much misery they inflict on their fellow humans - instead of showing anything remotely like the slightest hint of concern and/or compassion for the victims of these crimes or the relentless, ongoing maltreatment of people such as Kevin & Charlene Taylor. :cwm23:

[fred]

:iagree:, Fred! WHY IS it that those so~called "do gooders" are so fond of harping :23_116_6[1]: on about the "human rights" of the evil dooers - the dregs ... the scourge of society, who care not a jot how much misery they inflict on their fellow humans - instead of showing anything remotely like the slightest hint of concern and/or compassion for the victims of these crimes or the relentless, ongoing maltreatment of people such as Kevin & Charlene Taylor. :cwm23:

Because if you look around you,you will see people like Trump,Duterte and Farage (Britex) getting very very popular amongst working class and middle class voters against the woolly liberal consensus B.S that have failed us miserably..
Anyway..Thats how I see it.

[grahamw48]

I'd agree with that Fred.

Also, people/voters are getting more educated about what (including corruption and dirty tricks) is going on in the world around them.

In the West, people are still stinging from the banking crisis and the can of worms that opened.

Then there's the perceived threats from uncontrolled migration, and terrorism on the doosteps of countries right across the world.

At times like this, the man and woman in the street start to look for an honest leader who can direct and protect them.

[London_Manila]

I hope at some stage in the future that Durterte and his chief henchman Bato are are made to pay for their unlawful killings

If anyone thinks that these mass murders are going to rid the Philippines of Drugs then they are living in cloud cuckoo land :doh

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/06/15/1593231/un-rights-chief-warns-duterte-vs-encouraging-violence-bounty-offers

South East Asia powder keg countries indeed = a complete fruitcake gets into power and the mass killings start

Pol pot Thaksin and Durterte

[fred]

I hope at some stage in the future that Durterte and his chief henchman Bato are are made to pay for their unlawful killings

If anyone thinks that these mass murders are going to rid the Philippines of Drugs then they are living in cloud cuckoo land :doh

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/06/15/1593231/un-rights-chief-warns-duterte-vs-encouraging-violence-bounty-offers

South East Asia powder keg countries indeed = a complete fruitcake gets into power and the mass killings start

Pol pot Thaksin and Durterte

Officially,the Police are killing no one that doesn`t decide to shoot at them first..The rest are the druggies shooting at each other..
To prove otherwise is practically impossible...
Lets see how it goes!!

[London_Manila]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/04/16/duterte-vows-probe-into-salvage-killings

I won't hold my breath on this one :76:

He instigated all this in the first place with all his bravado talk impressing the masses

[Terpe]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/04/16/duterte-vows-probe-into-salvage-killings

I won't hold my breath on this one :76:

He instigated all this in the first place with all his bravado talk impressing the masses

It doesn't often happen, but I'd agree with you on this.

Why ?

Because night after night after night we see the results of vigilante killings of mostly completely innocent people.
We also see the completely OTT police action of shoot first ask questions later and honestly it doesn't sit well with me.

The total number of deaths relating to the war-on-drugs in one way or another remains very small but number of alleged innocent victims is quite high.
The other aspect I don't like is the increasing number of deaths of drug users who are so very poor they can never actually be drug dealers/pushers/drug lords.

We still wait to hear the outcomes of those 'Mr Big' characters who have either surrendered, been held in custody or whistleblowers.

PS
Good to see that Mayor Rolando Espinosa from Leyte quickly surrendered after a 'shoot-on-sight' threat .
His son has agreed to return to the Philippines from his hideaway in Malasia and surrender. Still waiting to hear the outcome of that one.

These two are rumoured to be the biggest drug lords and gun-for-hire in Eastern Visayas

[Terpe]

Strangely, there has so far been no backlash or outspoken negatives from the mass population :Erm:

[fred]

Strangely, there has so far been no backlash or outspoken negatives from the mass population :Erm:


I was talking the other day to a Filipino UP professor..
He explained to me that the Filipino people know full well that they have been very naughty and have become more and more undisciplined over the years..
They voted for Daddy Du30 in a landslide election victory because they know that they needed someone to give them a damned good thrashing!!
Certainly looks like they are receiving it and they really do not seem disappointed at all just yet..
All that can change though given time..
We will see..
(if we live long enough!!)

[Terpe]

Try reading about the Espinosa's from Leyte. Father and son.
See who's doing what.
OMG

The shoot to kill policy on named drug lords is working.
A couple more Mayors have now surrendered.

Wonder where and who it all will lead to.

[fred]

Try reading about the Espinosa's from Leyte. Father and son.
See who's doing what.
OMG

The shoot to kill policy on named drug lords is working.
A couple more Mayors have now surrendered.

Wonder where and who it all will lead to.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/can-of-worms.jpg

[grahamw48]

Dead right. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Steve.r]

http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/can-of-worms.jpg
This is what happens to worms in my family :icon_lol:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg188/Discusboy123/20150713_113624000_iOS_zpsn0uw8pxd.jpg

[grahamw48]

Haha. What a great picture. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[London_Manila]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/08/05/16/billionaire-branson-asks-duterte-to-stop-drug-war :ReadIt:

Bound to fail 100%

[stevewool]

This is what happens to worms in my family :icon_lol:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg188/Discusboy123/20150713_113624000_iOS_zpsn0uw8pxd.jpg

Did he eat it:smile:

[Steve.r]

Did he eat it:smile:I have a few more photos from that occasion, one worm did actually get in Vincent's mouth, but luckily it was pulled out before it touched him lol

[fred]

3 narco-mayors surrender to ‘Bato’
THREE POLITICIANS from Lanao del Sur surrendered to the Philippine National Police (PNP) in Camp Crame on Friday, just hours after President Rodrigo Duterte ordered law enforcers to “shoot on sight” local government officials involved in illegal drugs.
http://www.manilatimes.net/3-narco-mayors-surrender-to-bato/278220/

[Arthur Little]

3 narco-mayors surrender to ‘Bato’
THREE POLITICIANS from Lanao del Sur surrendered to the Philippine National Police (PNP) in Camp Crame on Friday, just hours after President Rodrigo Duterte ordered law enforcers to “shoot on sight” local government officials involved in illegal drugs.
http://www.manilatimes.net/3-narco-mayors-surrender-to-bato/278220/

:yeahthat:'s all to the good ... shows his policy on drugs is taking effect.

[London_Manila]

How to win friends and influence people :biggrin:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/05/16/bwisit-ako-dyan-duterte-takes-swipe-at-us-envoy

His derogatory remarks about an Australian woman who ended up being raped and murdered
in the Philippines just shows what a cretin Duterte is

[London_Manila]

Trying to avoid the inevitable military coup :cwm25:

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/576535/news/nation/duterte-promises-to-double-soldiers-salary-by-december

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/575606/news/nation/after-promise-to-soldiers-duterte-vows-pay-hike-for-teachers-next

The fruitcake seems to be throwing lots of pesos around does anyone know where the money is coming from?

[grahamw48]

How to win friends and influence people :biggrin:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/05/16/bwisit-ako-dyan-duterte-takes-swipe-at-us-envoy

His derogatory remarks about an Australian woman who ended up being raped and murdered
in the Philippines just shows what a cretin Duterte is


Agree !

True colours. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Steve.r]

I must admit that he is getting very cosy with the military. With all the mayors being drug dealers and leaving office, I am sure puppets will take their places. I can see it going one way more than the other. A coup could happen or a policed state and everyone scared of their shadows. Echos of what happened before?

[Terpe]

I must admit that he is getting very cosy with the military. With all the mayors being drug dealers and leaving office, I am sure puppets will take their places. I can see it going one way more than the other. A coup could happen or a policed state and everyone scared of their shadows. Echos of what happened before?

Sorry to say Steve, but I disagree

Most of his policies/strategies are highly beneficial to the majority of the population. About time too IMHO

[Steve.r]

Sorry to say Steve, but I disagree

Most of his policies/strategies are highly beneficial to the majority of the population. About time too IMHO
I really don't mind being wrong here Peter, time will tell. I really hope he 'does' have the people's interests at heart.

[grahamw48]

He seems to have what I term a 'drinker's nose'. :Erm:

[melovesengland]

i am from davao and i grew up in davao. i have experienced the peace and order in davao and how good davao is to live compare to other cities.

these killings they are not done by the police or any related to duterte, these people who kill are people that are hired by these drug personalities/boss/drug lords/protectors to kill those pushers and users who knows about their doings and can point them to the authorities. these buy bust operations done by the police, they will only be killed if the arrest wont go smoothly for example the criminals wont surrender peacefully and fight back using their guns.

now, if you fear of your lives now and think that the philippines is not safe anymore because of how the govt deal with drugs then secure your family and yourself and leave but i tell you me as a filipina has never felt so happy with the progress of the philippines for the past month since he took over and excited to visit home.

duterte has been in the position for just over a month and the things he have done has been satisfying for the majority of the filipinos. previous presidents have done any of that in their 6 years in term? NO.

we all have our own opinion and outlook in this matter but me as a dabawenya and a filipina i couldnt be any happier with the progress the philippines is experiencing now.

[jonnijon]

i am from davao and i grew up in davao. i have experienced the peace and order in davao and how good davao is to live compare to other cities.

these killings they are not done by the police or any related to duterte, these people who kill are people that are hired by these drug personalities/boss/drug lords/protectors to kill those pushers and users who knows about their doings and can point them to the authorities. these buy bust operations done by the police, they will only be killed if the arrest wont go smoothly for example the criminals wont surrender peacefully and fight back using their guns.

now, if you fear of your lives now and think that the philippines is not safe anymore because of how the govt deal with drugs then secure your family and yourself and leave but i tell you me as a filipina has never felt so happy with the progress of the philippines for the past month since he took over and excited to visit home.

duterte has been in the position for just over a month and the things he have done has been satisfying for the majority of the filipinos. previous presidents have done any of that in their 6 years in term? NO.

we all have our own opinion and outlook in this matter but me as a dabawenya and a filipina i couldnt be any happier with the progress the philippines is experiencing now.

Could not agree more. :xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[grahamw48]

Let's hope he also locks up some of the crooks who've been running the country since Marcos buggered off with his loot... his Mrs and kids still living in luxury of course. :NoNo:

[London_Manila]

i am from davao and i grew up in davao. i have experienced the peace and order in davao and how good davao is to live compare to other cities.

these killings they are not done by the police or any related to duterte, these people who kill are people that are hired by these drug personalities/boss/drug lords/protectors to kill those pushers and users who knows about their doings and can point them to the authorities. these buy bust operations done by the police, they will only be killed if the arrest wont go smoothly for example the criminals wont surrender peacefully and fight back using their guns.

now, if you fear of your lives now and think that the philippines is not safe anymore because of how the govt deal with drugs then secure your family and yourself and leave but i tell you me as a filipina has never felt so happy with the progress of the philippines for the past month since he took over and excited to visit home.

duterte has been in the position for just over a month and the things he have done has been satisfying for the majority of the filipinos. previous presidents have done any of that in their 6 years in term? NO.

we all have our own opinion and outlook in this matter but me as a dabawenya and a filipina i couldnt be any happier with the progress the philippines is experiencing now.

http://www.philstar.com/nation/2016/04/02/1568394/murder-rate-highest-davao-city-pnp

https://www.facebook.com/notes/andy-yapo/did-duterte-really-make-davao-safe-from-criminals-is-the-city-even-safest-in-the/133935090305496/

Like many people from Davao you regard Durterte as some kind of god like person who can do no wrong
I put it to you that Davao is not drug and crime free now so how he is going to eradicate drugs in the whole of the Philippines ?

You say that Durterte is satisfying the majority of the filipino people so far
Well that can change fast and as more families become effected by Durterte's murderous thugs and the death toll goes even higher people may start to rethink how good he actually is

I have no problems with Durterte trying to get rid of drugs in the Phills and thats what everyone wants i just feel he is going the wrong way about it

[London_Manila]

Let's hope he also locks up some of the crooks who've been running the country since Marcos buggered off with his loot... his Mrs and kids still living in luxury of course. :NoNo:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/06/16/duterte-rejects-criticism-of-heros-burial-for-marcos

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/774774/well-pay-marcos-debt-until-2025

Durterte reckons Marcos is qualified for a heroes burial :crazy:

[fred]

Most Filipino`s that I know don`t give a toss what foreigners think really.
They understand their country`s problems far better than any superior thinking outsider and they voted resoundingly for this guy `Duterte` to resolve them..
I respect their decision and I wish them all the best in the future..
As melovesengland (http://filipinaroses.com/member.php/9203-melovesengland) says..If you dont like it..Leave or visit elsewhere.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[fred]

Duterte names officials allegedly involved in drug trade
Published August 7, 2016 6:05am


President Rodrigo Duterte on Sunday named current and former officials allegedly involved in the drug trade. Listed below are all the officials as read by Duterte.

(This list is huge)

- See more at: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/576641/news/nation/duterte-names-officials-allegedly-involved-in-drug-trade#sthash.RJJs4pSB.dpuf

[melovesengland]

http://www.philstar.com/nation/2016/04/02/1568394/murder-rate-highest-davao-city-pnp

https://www.facebook.com/notes/andy-yapo/did-duterte-really-make-davao-safe-from-criminals-is-the-city-even-safest-in-the/133935090305496/

Like many people from Davao you regard Durterte as some kind of god like person who can do no wrong
I put it to you that Davao is not drug and crime free now so how he is going to eradicate drugs in the whole of the Philippines ?

You say that Durterte is satisfying the majority of the filipino people so far
Well that can change fast and as more families become effected by Durterte's murderous thugs and the death toll goes even higher people may start to rethink how good he actually is

I have no problems with Durterte trying to get rid of drugs in the Phills and thats what everyone wants i just feel he is going the wrong way about it

never heard of anything from dabawenyos or anyone that we worship him like god, we never do and we never will. we are in awe of how he manage to changed the old crappy davao to a liveable davao now. 100% no crime? no but manageable, people have discipline, people are scared to commit crime because they know that there will be consequences.

ohh dont worry about families change their satisfaction about duterte because it wont happen the way you think, they will adore more how dedicated he is to change MY COUNTRY, how he love the filipino people, how sick and tired he is of the filipinos being mucked about and how corruption has eaten the philippines in many years.

many years the philippines has struggled with the after effects of drug using, child as young as 2 are victims of rape, robbery to feed their habbits and many more crimes that makes us all filipino sick to think why did the past govts let drug trade became so easy in the philippines. any president done anything about that? no, nothing, NO ONE!

i respect how you feel about it but you have never felt what filipinos have been feeling for decades of rubbish and neglect from the govt and to see a bit of light at the end of the tunnel because the new administration is working hard to make philippines better then for us that is SATISFYING.

and oh! marcos is a soldier before he became a president and in that respect and reason why he will be buried in the libingan ng mga bayani like any soldier are entitled to.

another thing, majority of your links i notice comes from abs cbn-gma- i wont believe majority of what media has been reporting or saying as it is known that media in the philippines are biased. tested and proven during the election period.

[melovesengland]

Most Filipino`s that I know don`t give a toss what foreigners think really.
They understand their country`s problems far better than any superior thinking outsider and they voted resoundingly for this guy `Duterte` to resolve them..
I respect their decision and I wish them all the best in the future..
As melovesengland (http://filipinaroses.com/member.php/9203-melovesengland) says..If you dont like it..Leave or visit elsewhere.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

we love foreign nationals visiting our country because philippines has a lot to offer tourist wise but for a foreign national to feel unsafe because the filipinos elected somebody that we solely think that can make our lives better then i would leave and maybe visit another country and skip the bloody philippines for my own sake.

duterte is not somekind of a person who ran as a president with no background at all of good doings, Davao is a living proof. Will he turn the philippines into the way we live in the davao? he can join forces with every filipino who really wants the change.

thank you sir fred. :smile:

[Terpe]

i am from davao and i grew up in davao. i have experienced the peace and order in davao and how good davao is to live compare to other cities.

these killings they are not done by the police or any related to duterte, these people who kill are people that are hired by these drug personalities/boss/drug lords/protectors to kill those pushers and users who knows about their doings and can point them to the authorities. these buy bust operations done by the police, they will only be killed if the arrest wont go smoothly for example the criminals wont surrender peacefully and fight back using their guns.

now, if you fear of your lives now and think that the philippines is not safe anymore because of how the govt deal with drugs then secure your family and yourself and leave but i tell you me as a filipina has never felt so happy with the progress of the philippines for the past month since he took over and excited to visit home.

duterte has been in the position for just over a month and the things he have done has been satisfying for the majority of the filipinos. previous presidents have done any of that in their 6 years in term? NO.

we all have our own opinion and outlook in this matter but me as a dabawenya and a filipina i couldnt be any happier with the progress the philippines is experiencing now.

Well said, couldn't agree more :xxgrinning--00xx3:

He was very accessible as Mayor of Davao. I met with him a few times at the City Hall.

He has some very clear and important strategies and policies that will be a big benefit to the majority of those who need to see the country doing the right thing for all, not just for the privileged few.

As you say he has only been in office for a month.............

[Terpe]

Most Filipino`s that I know don`t give a toss what foreigners think really.
They understand their country`s problems far better than any superior thinking outsider and they voted resoundingly for this guy `Duterte` to resolve them..
I respect their decision and I wish them all the best in the future..
As melovesengland (http://filipinaroses.com/member.php/9203-melovesengland) says..If you dont like it..Leave or visit elsewhere.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

Agreed!!!

I have a feeling he'll become one of the best ever presidents.

Time will see. It's only been a few weeks so far.
As always there's been a lot of media sensationalism, especially after the rocket he put up the **** of the media community.

[Terpe]

Duterte names officials allegedly involved in drug trade
Published August 7, 2016 6:05am


[COLOR=#333333][FONT="]President Rodrigo Duterte on Sunday named current and former officials allegedly involved in the drug trade. Listed below are all the officials as read by Duterte.

(This list is huge)

- See more at: http://www.gmanetwork.com/:xxgrinning--00xx3:news/story/576641/news/nation/duterte-names-officials-allegedly-involved-in-drug-trade#sthash.RJJs4pSB.dpuf

Funs and games now..........

Of course they'll all deny deny deny

[melovesengland]

Well said, couldn't agree more :xxgrinning--00xx3:

He was very accessible as Mayor of Davao. I met with him a few times at the City Hall.

He has some very clear and important strategies and policies that will be a big benefit to the majority of those who need to see the country doing the right thing for all, not just for the privileged few.

As you say he has only been in office for a month.............


I have met him as well many times before sir peter, when there is an election campaign in our barangay or if its the barangays fiesta us kids are asked for a dance number. after we danced we get to meet him, he always ask if we have eaten already. he has big love to children and he is dedicated to his job.

[Terpe]

http://www.philstar.com/nation/2016/04/02/1568394/murder-rate-highest-davao-city-pnp

https://www.facebook.com/notes/andy-yapo/did-duterte-really-make-davao-safe-from-criminals-is-the-city-even-safest-in-the/133935090305496/

Like many people from Davao you regard Durterte as some kind of god like person who can do no wrong
I put it to you that Davao is not drug and crime free now so how he is going to eradicate drugs in the whole of the Philippines ?

You say that Durterte is satisfying the majority of the filipino people so far
Well that can change fast and as more families become effected by Durterte's murderous thugs and the death toll goes even higher people may start to rethink how good he actually is

I have no problems with Durterte trying to get rid of drugs in the Phills and thats what everyone wants i just feel he is going the wrong way about it

From someone who knows nothing, absolutely zilch, about either Davao City or President Duterte you have a very itchy tongue.

As I recall you've never set foot in Davao, the 4th safest city in the world, so it begs the question about your sources of information.

Why not focus your posts on those aspects of life here that you actually have personal experience of, that may be much more useful. IMHO

[SimonH]

From someone who knows nothing, absolutely zilch, about either Davao City or President Duterte you have a very itchy tongue.

As I recall you've never set foot in Davao, the 4th safest city in the world, so it begs the question about your sources of information.

Why not focus your posts on those aspects of life here that you actually have personal experience of, that may be much more useful. IMHO

If you look back through London_Manila's posts you'll soon come to the conclusion that he has rarely got anything positive to say about anything. He has a thing about people in authority, especially those elected by a majority vote :Erm:
My guess is he works in the public sector and an active union member :wink:

[Steve.r]

I am not going to argue the wrongs or rights of the new president. Whatever country you live in you find lots of promises before elections which then get forgotten in the term of power. I want to believe Dutert is going to be the breath of fresh air that the Philippine people need. We will see on that count. But, with all the high people on these lists being brought in on corruption or drug charges, who will replace them? Substituting a corrupt mayor/governor/lawyer for a 'yes' man is also very worrying.

I have referenced Marcos briefly before, he also started off doing many good things for the 'people', but then it all started to go wrong when he wanted more power. We all know what happened then.

I love the Philippines, it is where I call home, I love my filipino family and the people I associate with. As a foreigner it is not a case of going elsewhere, I can't, I don't want to, my ties are too strong. As Peter said,, it is too short a time to judge Duterte quite yet, the future will show if he is the right choice for the people.

My link is just for reference, it is interesting to see similarities in the beginning of the terms of office.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ferdinand_Marcos

[melovesengland]

indeed I agree with you steve and sir peter atleast give the man a time to prove himself, so far he has done good things in a space of a month or two.

for dictatorship, i personally dont think it will happen because it should have done in davao where he run the city for 2 decades. we didnt feel any of that instead we realised that we should abide by the law and respect eachother.

like i said in my first comment in this thread, we all have different opinions that we are entitled to but to jump into conclusion straight away and accuse the man with unlawful killings i dont think that is right.

[Ako Si Jamie]

I have met him as well many times before sir peter, when there is an election campaign in our barangay or if its the barangays fiesta us kids are asked for a dance number. after we danced we get to meet him, he always ask if we have eaten already. he has big love to children and he is dedicated to his job.

Duterte dancing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRv7gIRpaC4

[Terpe]

I first met him at city hall.
Second time was at Davao Kadayawan Festival where he twerked like miley

I'll bet he'll be ther this year too.

Sadly I wont be able to make it as i'm still busy with the house.

[fred]

But, with all the high people on these lists being brought in on corruption or drug charges, who will replace them? Substituting a corrupt mayor/governor/lawyer for a 'yes' man is also very worrying.

Steve.. If these high and mighty Mayors/ Governors are drug coddlers/Smugglers then that is a really good clue as to how they financed their election campaigns and paid for peoples votes to become elected..
Without that kind of money source the elections would become fair OVERNIGHT almost..
There are very few "Yes men" in power here as they are elected by the people because of MONEY (vote buying)...
Corruption and drug money is the problem and it looks to me like DU30 is attacking that problem big time..
Ive never seen any such transparency like it here in over 30 years..
If I see a news report saying he has done something unspeakable,I will post it here in this thread..
I agree with your stance on London-Manila...Just another Labour lefty woos IMO..Still quite a few of them left apparently...
He was probably at Heathrow Airport supporting Black lives matter..
Need I say more?

[fred]

Thanks for Reps,Peter and Simon..I didn't expect that.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[fred]

Duterte dancing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRv7gIRpaC4

How cool is that.
The man has rhythm!

[fred]

Salamat sa rep Steve!:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Steve.r]

Salamat sa rep Steve!:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[London_Manila]

Omg what next i suppose Duterte's farts smell of devon violets also :biggrin:

Its obvious i am dealing with deluded people here who cant see the wood for the trees

I actually care about the Philippines and its people and with time i will be proved right that Duterte is a backward step for the Philippines

I don't blame the pinoys for falling Duterte's bravado and false promises of utopia
They want change and will vote for anything that changes the status quo

Westerners living in or outside the Phills really should know better than to support this lunatic or go along with the blind faith that swept him to power

[London_Manila]

indeed I agree with you steve and sir peter atleast give the man a time to prove himself, so far he has done good things in a space of a month or two.

for dictatorship, i personally dont think it will happen because it should have done in davao where he run the city for 2 decades. we didnt feel any of that instead we realised that we should abide by the law and respect eachother.

like i said in my first comment in this thread, we all have different opinions that we are entitled to but to jump into conclusion straight away and accuse the man with unlawful killings i dont think that is right.

Duterte openly advocates killing people with his shoot to kill policy :doh

What don't you understand about that ?

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/08/08/16/after-the-murder-heartbreak-questions-uncertain-futures


As Duterte has given the police carte blanche on killing people the police have moved on
from only murdering so called pushers
A minor traffic violation and you end up dead


http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/08/16/2-cops-face-raps-over-motorcycle-riders-death-inside-police-car

Is this really the type of police force you want in the Philippines

[grahamw48]

I'm sure the pope and god will sort it all out for them. :cwm25:

[London_Manila]

Its nice to keep it in the family :icon_lol:

http://www.philstar.com/nation/2016/06/20/1594839/duterte-siblings-take-oath-mayor-vice-mayor-davao-city

I take it that Duterte's daughter is the best thing since sliced bread also

[grahamw48]

Yep... rather like the Kennedys.

[Michael Parnham]

Omg what next i suppose Duterte's farts smell of devon violets also :biggrin:

Its obvious i am dealing with deluded people here who cant see the wood for the trees

I actually care about the Philippines and its people and with time i will be proved right that Duterte is a backward step for the Philippines

I don't blame the pinoys for falling Duterte's bravado and false promises of utopia
They want change and will vote for anything that changes the status quo

Westerners living in or outside the Phills really should know better than to support this lunatic or go along with the blind faith that swept him to power

It is wrong to kill the scum in full view of the public the way it's being broadcast, children will be affected by all this and grow up thinking it's ok to shoot criminals. There has to be a better way:Erm:

[fred]

It is wrong to kill the scum in full view of the public the way it's being broadcast, children will be affected by all this and grow up thinking it's ok to shoot criminals. There has to be a better way:Erm:

As I mentioned before Micheal there was blood on the streets everyday in full public view long before Du30...As I also told you before they had a shoot out near our school and the contents of my Filipino mates son`s head was there for the kids to see on the school crossing that morning..
My Filipino friend and the neighbours were visited by the Police at the time...Obviously the locals knew who did it but were too afraid to give the old bill information..The father just had to accept the murder of his son and did not say a word to them.
These liberals schmucks had their chance to tackle drug crime and they did .... all..
The worm has turned and we all feel much safer then before..
Hope it continues.

[fred]

MANILA — President Duterte is not pleased with the spiralling drug-related killings in the country, according to Malacañang.



“I think he’s very concerned and, in fact, bothered and troubled,” he added. “He’s deeply and profoundly concerned.”
Nonetheless, the Palace spokesperson said Duterte recognized the fact that the murders had raised public awareness about the “depth and breadth” of the country’s drug problem.


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[Michael Parnham]

As I mentioned before Micheal there was blood on the streets everyday in full public view long before Du30...As I also told you before they had a shoot out near our school and the contents of my Filipino mates son`s head was there for the kids to see on the school crossing that morning..
My Filipino friend and the neighbours were visited by the Police at the time...Obviously the locals knew who did it but were too afraid to give the old bill information..The father just had to accept the murder of his son and did not say a word to them.
These liberals schmucks had their chance to tackle drug crime and they did .... all..
The worm has turned and we all feel much safer then before..
Hope it continues.

Thank you Fred, I understand what you say it's just that I was saying it would be better if another way of dealing with these problems could be found:smile:

[SimonH]

We seem to be engaging the 'do as I say and not what I do' here :Erm:

We all complain about minority groups trying to change our way of life here, and rightly so, but we're also complaining about what's fair and not fair in the Philippines :Erm:

My view is that I'm a visitor, soon to retire person in their country and will live by their rules. If I don't like it then rather than be a moaning foreigner and draw attention to myself, I can leave.

[melovesengland]

Omg what next i suppose Duterte's farts smell of devon violets also :biggrin:

Its obvious i am dealing with deluded people here who cant see the wood for the trees

I actually care about the Philippines and its people and with time i will be proved right that Duterte is a backward step for the Philippines

I don't blame the pinoys for falling Duterte's bravado and false promises of utopia
They want change and will vote for anything that changes the status quo

Westerners living in or outside the Phills really should know better than to support this lunatic or go along with the blind faith that swept him to power

lunatic? U might need to consider yourself one as you sound to be so affected with Duterte. False promises? Didnt see any as what he has said on his campaign has so far been done and is actually doing well. 911 philippines, drug pushers and users surrendered and is now waiting for rehabilitation, 8888 hotline for any corruption the govt, mining firms banned because of too much mining destorying the nature, farmers problems on water for their crops has been heard and now has plans to give them support on that, our athletes that is in rio now has his full support that he raised their allowances to 3k dollars, filipina captured by the abu sayaff freed before he even took over as the president, laglag bala gang at the naia LONG GONE, attention and support for the wounded soldiers and soldiers fighting in mindanao has been addressed.

U will be proved right? U might need to rephrase that as that wont happen in a million years.

Filipinos are sick and tired of being suppressed, of being victims of these illegal drug trades, neglect from the govt for many decades and have you experienced any of that? No. So you have no right whatsoever to judge someone or any filipinos who voted for him because u have never experienced a tiny bit of what we have gone through.

Deluded? Look at the mirror and you will see one.

[melovesengland]

Duterte openly advocates killing people with his shoot to kill policy :doh

What don't you understand about that ?

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/08/08/16/after-the-murder-heartbreak-questions-uncertain-futures


As Duterte has given the police carte blanche on killing people the police have moved on
from only murdering so called pushers
A minor traffic violation and you end up dead


http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/08/16/2-cops-face-raps-over-motorcycle-riders-death-inside-police-car

Is this really the type of police force you want in the Philippines

Shoot to kill policy yes if the criminal will fight then they will be killed. I wouldnt risk the lives of the police for a scumbag, why would we?

Riding in tandem? Are u going to blame that as well to duterte? These people are hired by druglords and pushers who wants to keep their allies schtum forever so they wont report anything to the authorities.

Not all police are dedicated to their job and that is not just in the philippines but its all over the world. These policemen that are using their power to be little others and kill should be prosecuted and they will be and there has been proofs for that.

Id rather have the honest policemen live to protect the people from these criminals and continuw to support its family than be in a box being grieved by their family because a low life drug addict or criminal has shot and killed them.

[grahamw48]

We seem to be engaging the 'do as I say and not what I do' here :Erm:

We all complain about minority groups trying to change our way of life here, and rightly so, but we're also complaining about what's fair and not fair in the Philippines :Erm:

My view is that I'm a visitor, soon to retire person in their country and will live by their rules. If I don't like it then rather than be a moaning foreigner and draw attention to myself, I can leave.


Agree.

(I may buy a bullet-proof vest off Amazon though... just in case :biggrin: .)

[melovesengland]

Duterte openly advocates killing people with his shoot to kill policy :doh

What don't you understand about that ?

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/08/08/16/after-the-murder-heartbreak-questions-uncertain-futures


As Duterte has given the police carte blanche on killing people the police have moved on
from only murdering so called pushers
A minor traffic violation and you end up dead


http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/08/16/2-cops-face-raps-over-motorcycle-riders-death-inside-police-car

Is this really the type of police force you want in the Philippines

And oh your sources are PHILIPPINES MEDIA? BIASED so dont count on it!

[Arthur Little]

Omg what next? I suppose Duterte's farts smell of Devon violets also :biggrin:

I don't blame the pinoys for falling for Duterte's bravado and false promises of Utopia

At least his farts aren't just a lot of hot air, like the promises of so many Heads of State around the world. :nono-1-1: ... he's "sticking to his guns" (pun intended) and, in time, the nation will be the BETTER of it too.

[London_Manila]

It is wrong to kill the scum in full view of the public the way it's being broadcast, children will be affected by all this and grow up thinking it's ok to shoot criminals. There has to be a better way:Erm:

Of course Duterte is brutalising the nation with his murderous police force
A nation where people never get a fair trial they are just simply murdered

some people on here think thats justice !

[London_Manila]

And oh your sources are PHILIPPINES MEDIA? BIASED so dont count on it!

Actually for your information abs/cbn is one of the few media outlets in the Philippines that just does not pay lip service to Durterte and actually DARES to challenge Duterte on his ridiculous mas murder policy

I don't think that just having news media outlets that just praise Duterte and agree with everything Duterte does is helping anyone and certainly not the Philippine people

A lunatic dictator who tries to run the country as a one man band needs bringing to book

Duterte threatens military rule just because he can't have it all his way

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/576954/news/nation/duterte-to-cj-sereno-would-you-rather-i-declare-martial-law

Duterte's list of public officials involved with drugs contained one person who died 8 years ago :laugher:
what a complete idiot this man is

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/576962/news/nation/duterte-defends-having-dead-people-on-drug-list/most_read

Now tell me GMA news is biased as well :biggrin:

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/576752/news/nation/sereno-writes-letter-to-duterte-on-judges-in-list-1-dead-since-08-1-dismissed-since-07

[London_Manila]

Duterte's chief henchman and mas murderer another disgusting individual

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/576934/news/nation/bato-hits-out-at-critics-of-duterte-s-drug-campaign-touts-gains

[fred]

Duterte threatens martial law if 'drug war' is blockedPhilippine president warns the Supreme Court of a "constitutional war" if the judiciary interferes with his policies.
"Filipinos are getting killed. I grieve for so many women raped, men killed, infants raped," because of drug addiction, Duterte said.
"Please do not create a confrontation, a constitutional war, we will all lose."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/duterte-threatens-martial-law-drug-war-blocked-160805170518830.html

[London_Manila]

Its about time the USA distances itself from this madman also :ReadIt:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/09/16/us-asks-philippines-to-clarify-duterte-remarks-vs-goldberg

Duterte has zero diplomacy skills and enjoys opening his mouth and making unhinged statements

[fred]

Duterte has zero diplomacy skills and enjoys opening his mouth and making unhinged statements
Its about time the USA distances itself from this madman also



Not to worry..Trump & Putin will get on just fine with him.. The future is bright!

[fred]

He means business: Duterte anti-drug campaign gets archbishop's nod.

President Rodrigo Duterte's all-out campaign against the drug menace has found a supporter in Lingayen-Dagupan archbishop emeritus Oscar Cruz.
Speaking to Radyo Veritas, Cruz said Duterte is serious about eliminating the drug menace especially after he named more than 150 public officials, law enforcers and magistrates who allegedly have links to narcotics syndicates.

The archbishop, however, said the release of the alleged drug list could bring much needed change.
"I don't know if there is any effect if there is killing here, killing there. Now that he has named names, maybe this is the change that will be different from the weeks of killing," he said.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/09/16/he-means-business-duterte-anti-drug-campaign-gets-archbishops-nod

[Ako Si Jamie]

When you've got government officials dealing in drugs something has to be done or the Philippines is going to end up like one of those Central American hellholes such as Honduras or El Salvador.

[fred]

When you've got government officials dealing in drugs something has to be done or the Philippines is going to end up like one of those Central American hellholes such as Honduras or El Salvador.

From what I have been reading Jamie,most of the Shabu ingredients found here are shipped from Mexico via China.

[fred]

P88-M worth of shabu seized from 'narco-mayor's' house

ABS-CBN News

Posted at Aug 10 2016 10:09 AM








Police confiscated an estimated P88-million worth of shabu from the house of Albuera, Leyte Mayor Ronald Espinosa, Sr. on Wednesday.
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/10/16/p88-m-worth-of-shabu-seized-from-narco-mayors-house

[grahamw48]

He must have responded to that bloke they have going round with a loud hailer now.

" BRING OUT YER DRUGS ! " " BRING OUT YER DRUGS ! "

[grahamw48]

Ooops. :cwm25:

Philippines President Calls US Ambassador "Annoying, Homosexual, Son Of A Bitch"


(I'm laughing actually :icon_lol: )




http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-10/philippines-president-calls-us-ambassador-annoying-homosexual-son-bitch



(http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-10/philippines-president-calls-us-ambassador-annoying-homosexual-son-bitch)

[fred]

Ooops. :cwm25:

Philippines President Calls US Ambassador "Annoying, Homosexual, Son Of A Bitch"


(I'm laughing actually :icon_lol: )




http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-10/philippines-president-calls-us-ambassador-annoying-homosexual-son-bitch



(http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-10/philippines-president-calls-us-ambassador-annoying-homosexual-son-bitch)

What a character!! Gotta admit..Made me giggle too.:icon_lol:

[London_Manila]

About time

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577116/news/nation/us-strongly-urges-phl-to-comply-with-human-rights-obligations


http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/576598/news/us-embassy-32m-aid-for-phl-law-enforcement-not-new-funding

[fred]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...ts-obligations (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577116/news/nation/us-strongly-urges-phl-to-comply-with-human-rights-obligations)

The yanks need to know that due process here is painfully slow to non existent. It just doesn't work. Broken!!
Du30 will take the 32 Million USD for human rights aid to help in his proposed Police force salary increase..
He needs all the help he can get.
Well done USA..Please send more money though.

[fred]

Kathleen Mahilac, wife of a rumored drug lord became the talk-of-the-town this week after decorating her mansion with several 500-peso bills and bragging it on social media.

Besides those staggering money, she also showed her expensive car and luxury bags and proudly claimed that she could get everything she want with her husband’s money.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eHWEYEd0Tdk/V5iFXiOg6yI/AAAAAAAAB9w/WL5sI4ZvCiUSTjwOl40wTqzWoO0-WboUQCLcB/s1600/FB_IMG_1469606879395.jpg (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eHWEYEd0Tdk/V5iFXiOg6yI/AAAAAAAAB9w/WL5sI4ZvCiUSTjwOl40wTqzWoO0-WboUQCLcB/s1600/FB_IMG_1469606879395.jpg)


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ScgpkaUpoy8/V5iFVYJf_5I/AAAAAAAAB9s/e_wfwjNgtcofLKHQ1IN8K6o_FXL9z8elACLcB/s1600/PhotoGrid_1469607086405-1.jpg

http://pinoynewsph.com/news/alleged-drug-lords-wife-who-decorated-house-with-500-peso-bills-now-releases-photos-of-house-with-1000-peso-bills-everywhere/

[London_Manila]

The yanks need to know that due process here is painfully slow to non existent. It just doesn't work. Broken!!
Du30 will take the 32 Million USD for human rights aid to help in his proposed Police force salary increase..
He needs all the help he can get.
Well done USA..Please send more money though.

If Duterte carries on with his mass murder policy i can see the yanks washing their hands with him and he won't even get 1 dime

World opinion is already against Duterte and the yanks won't want to be seen as supporting this lunatic

[London_Manila]

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eHWEYEd0Tdk/V5iFXiOg6yI/AAAAAAAAB9w/WL5sI4ZvCiUSTjwOl40wTqzWoO0-WboUQCLcB/s1600/FB_IMG_1469606879395.jpg (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eHWEYEd0Tdk/V5iFXiOg6yI/AAAAAAAAB9w/WL5sI4ZvCiUSTjwOl40wTqzWoO0-WboUQCLcB/s1600/FB_IMG_1469606879395.jpg)


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ScgpkaUpoy8/V5iFVYJf_5I/AAAAAAAAB9s/e_wfwjNgtcofLKHQ1IN8K6o_FXL9z8elACLcB/s1600/PhotoGrid_1469607086405-1.jpg

http://pinoynewsph.com/news/alleged-drug-lords-wife-who-decorated-house-with-500-peso-bills-now-releases-photos-of-house-with-1000-peso-bills-everywhere/

Small change compared to what Marcos and his awful wife plundered from the Philippines

[fred]

If Duterte carries on with his mass murder policy i can see the yanks washing their hands with him and he won't even get 1 dime

World opinion is already against Duterte and the yanks won't want to be seen as supporting this lunatic

What mass murder policy??
We can only accept links to PNP shooting drug dealers not shooting back please.
I think the court of human rights will need more evidence to pursue DU31..
Get it??? Duterte WON!! lol.

[fred]

Small change compared to what Marcos and his awful wife plundered from the Philippines

Not small change if you add up how much every corrupt Brgy cap,councilor,Mayor,judge,Police chief,Senator and Congressman all around the country has stolen from the people over the years since Marcos.
If he can stop that he will be known here as a living God whether you or I like it or not..
Fail and he will end up either dead, under house arrest or at the wrong end of a military coup.
At age 71,I can think of better ways most people would wish to spend their last few years.

[jonnijon]

Well said:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[London_Manila]

Duterte is totally out of his depth as president and he had to issue another apology after another stupid outburst

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577306/news/nation/duterte-apologizes-to-cj-sereno-harsh-words-were-never-intended

He called the Pope the son of a whore
Made jokes about a foreign woman who was raped and murdered in the Philippines
Called the outgoing USA ambassador gay

This guy is a total crackpot and certainly not fit to be in charge of any country

He throws money around like its going out of fashion
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577296/sports/othersports/duterte-adds-p2m-to-diaz-s-p5-m-incentive-for-olympic-silver-medal/top_picks?order=4

And then he cant keep to the promises he made
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577278/news/nation/gov-t-can-t-keep-duterte-s-promise-of-august-pay-hike-for-soldiers-dbm/top_picks?order=3

[fred]

This guy is a total crackpot and certainly not fit to be in charge of any country

He looks pretty fit for an old guy to me and like it or not..He`s 100% in charge!!

[fred]

MANILA – Tycoon Roberto Ongpin resigned on Thursday as chairman of online gambling company PhilWeb Corp., one day after President Rodrigo Duterte singled him out in a speech which included criticisms of the country’s oligarchs.
PhilWeb shares plunged by as much as 50 percent, before closing 36.88 percent lower to P8.95. It was the stock's steepest decline on record according to Bloomberg.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/08/04/16/ongpin-resigns-from-philweb-after-duterte-blasts-oligarchs

[grahamw48]

He called the Pope the son of a whore


Can't be all bad then. :laugher:

[jonnijon]

Can't be all bad then. :laugher:

Took the words out of my mouth :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

[London_Manila]

More heat from the yanks

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/12/16/us-32-m-aid-must-promote-human-rights-rule-of-law

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/08/16/us-expresses-concern-over-extrajudicial-killings-in-ph

[London_Manila]

What mass murder policy??
We can only accept links to PNP shooting drug dealers not shooting back please.
I think the court of human rights will need more evidence to pursue DU31..
Get it??? Duterte WON!! lol.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/08/09/philippines-rights-agenda-president-duterte

Duterte should be arrested and charged for instigating mas murder in the Philippines

[fred]

Senate summons BatoPNP CHIEF SAYS HE’LL FACE THE COMMITTEE


Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa is unfazed and will enter the lion’s den once summoned.
The chief of the Philippine National Police is set to be called to a hearing of the Senate committee on justice and human rights on Aug. 22-23 on the spate of alleged extrajudicial killings in President Duterte’s war on illegal drugs.
“Yes, we will face it,” Dela Rosa said on Thursday in an interview with reporters in General Santos City. “It’s part of our job, if we will be required to attend.”



Abella said the President had “never ordered extrajudicial killings.”
“He is deeply concerned about what’s happening,” Abella told a news conference in Malacañang.
He said Mr. Duterte had ordered the PNP and the National Police Commission to look into allegations of summary executions of drug suspects.



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[London_Manila]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/13/16/philippines-tells-us-govt-opposes-unlawful-killings

Do these people really think that anyone is going to believe this :crazy:

Seeing that most of the killings are carried out by the police in shoot to kill raids and i am yet to
see any good evidence that the people being murdered even lifted a finger against the police
Of course a few bags of drugs are planted on the dead victim as a way of justifying their killings :NoNo:

As for the others murdered by unidentified assailants that's just uncover police
I don't believe for one second that all of a sudden there is this big drug turf war going on between
various drug gangs killing each other
That's just a smokescreen put out by the police to cover up their unlawful killings

Duterte and chief henchman Bato have blood on their hands no matter what way you look at it

The communist party of the Philippines have the measure of Duterte with some spot on comments
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577527/news/nation/cpp-no-longer-supports-duterte-s-war-on-drugs

[fred]

I think Du31 is almost ready for the next equally important move to start moving this country out of the stone age and removing the Oligarchs enormous power via constitutional change.. They wont like this one little bit...
A truly amazing time to be here to witness this very important part of Philippine history.. I was here during the peoples revolution to ouster Marcos..This is far far bigger than that IMO.


https://youtu.be/tqcYJdSGPQs

[fred]

PNP chief: Crime rate down 49%
CAGAYAN DE ORO CITY, Philippines – Amid an intensified anti-illegal drug campaign, the number of crimes recorded as of last month across the country dropped by about 49 percent compared to last year, Philippine National Police (PNP) chief Director General Ronald dela Rosa said here Friday.
“This only goes to show that most of these crimes that are happening in our communities are drug-related. That’s why when we focused our resources and attention on the drug problem, crimes also dropped,” Dela Rosa said in a speech before hundreds of police officers at the police regional headquarters at Camp Alagar.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/08/14/1613274/pnp-chief-crime-rate-down-49

[Harry T]

enjoy watching this debate between you two guys, Im a DU30 fan having seen first hand, how much he is respected in Davao, i have to say he won the election hands down, and is what the Philippines need. as for the anti DU30 comments it seems most of it comes from whats reported online, why dont you go and check out facts for yourself.. It seems to me these so called drug barons and dealers have been having a pretty easy life of it so far.. up until DU30 called them out..

Of course all these people in public office who make money through drugs are going to be screaming things against DU30 everyone knows corruption is rife in the Philippines, surely its a good thing to try and stamp it out.. what does it say about Phills that it takes a 71 year old man, who should be enjoying his retirement to have to attempt to do it for them..

[grahamw48]

Half the countries in the world are ruled over by geriatrics, aren't they ? :olddude:

[Arthur Little]

Half the countries in the world are ruled over by geriatrics, aren't they ? :olddude:

:olddude: ... you better believe it :wink: ... see my thread about Fidel Castro, who yesterday celebrated his 90th birthday:

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/59613-Former-Cuban-Rebel-Fidel-Castro-Celebrates-His-90th-Birthday

:yeahthat:'s after ruling over Cuba for [almost] half a century, until he was eighty~two!

[Arthur Little]

:yeahthat:'s after ruling over Cuba for [almost] half a century, until he was eighty~two!

:poke: ... that said ... :anerikke: ... I retired from my main job at an age equivalent to the number of years he'd served as leader - and I've never regretted doing so for one moment! :NoNo:

[Harry T]

Half the countries in the world are ruled over by geriatrics, aren't they ? :olddude:

Ahhhhhmmm does that mean there is hope for Corbyn yet ? :biggrin:

[Arthur Little]

Ahhhhhmmm does that mean there is hope for Corbyn yet? :biggrin:

Probably does, yes. Because when I retired in 1993, I'd been widowed for roughly a year and a half; my family had already grown up and, at 49, I was living in what was then regarded as a "young man's world" ... which, effectively, meant I was going nowhere, workwise.

But times have changed - thankfully - and so men of Corbyn's :olddude: vintage are now looked upon as still being able to offer a useful contribution to society in terms of BOTH their knowledge and experience. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

:yeahthat:!

[grahamw48]

Arthur, fess up.

You like him because he's got a white beard. :biggrin:

[London_Manila]

enjoy watching this debate between you two guys, Im a DU30 fan having seen first hand, how much he is respected in Davao, i have to say he won the election hands down, and is what the Philippines need. as for the anti DU30 comments it seems most of it comes from whats reported online, why dont you go and check out facts for yourself.. It seems to me these so called drug barons and dealers have been having a pretty easy life of it so far.. up until DU30 called them out..

Of course all these people in public office who make money through drugs are going to be screaming things against DU30 everyone knows corruption is rife in the Philippines, surely its a good thing to try and stamp it out.. what does it say about Phills that it takes a 71 year old man, who should be enjoying his retirement to have to attempt to do it for them..

Of course go out and arrest all these drug dealers and lock them up :xxgrinning--00xx3:

My problem is people being murdered by the police without having any fair trial

[London_Manila]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577569/lifestyle/marcos-is-no-hero-filipinos-protest-lnmb-burial-for-dictator

The crackpot Duterte thinks Marcos should have a heroes burial because at some stage Marcos was a soldier :NoNo:
I suppose he overlooked the Marcos reign of terror where thousands of people lost their lives at the hands of the military

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37076080

Duterte has much in common with Marcos and his human rights violations
History is repeating itself right now

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/07/10bn-dollar-question-marcos-millions-nick-davies

Plunder on a shocking scale

[fred]

Of course go out and arrest all these drug dealers and lock them up :xxgrinning--00xx3:

My problem is people being murdered by the police without having any fair trial


So prove it...Talk is cheap.
Round here there have been killings no doubt about it.. My BIL just told me his mechanics son was just shot and killed 2 days ago... They know who did it..
The victim was a shabu user that had not yet surrendered..The dealer whacked him because if he did surrender he would have had to grass him up...Dealers that have been grassed up shoot back at Police to avoid the consequences of their deeds.
2 more youngsters shot a few days ago for the same reason.Its very very sad what these monsters are prepared to do to save their own skins.
Thats what is happening according to local Boholano`s..
If police were running around murdering local users as you say it would be all over the jungle wires.
It is not.
If that changes,I am happy to report it here in this thread.

[Michael Parnham]

Of course go out and arrest all these drug dealers and lock them up :xxgrinning--00xx3:

My problem is people being murdered by the police without having any fair trial

Bring in the same laws as Singapore!

[purple]

In San Fernando, Cebu the brother of the vice mayor who happens to be well connected and a BIG drug lord have surrendered and admitted that some policemen and generals are in his payroll. This town is next to my hometown where you can buy shabu in broad daylight. I'm against the unlawful killings. But sometimes you can help but think of which is the lesser evil thing to do.
To let the drug users kill innocent people while they're high on drugs includeing raping their own daughter or gunning down the obvious root of the cause of the cause :smile:

[Harry T]

I think this is an instance where things will get worse before they get better, but there is no doubt that if DU30 can make the whole of the Philippines similar to Davao; No Smoking (Im a Smoker) in public, No Kids on the street after a certain time, No drinking after a certain time, No dogs roaming the streets, No Firecrackers, Not getting ripped off by Taxi Drivers, and Im sure there are many other things he has done to improve life in Davao of which im unaware of, then it will help the Philippines move forward. Much of this can be done quickly but its such as the Drug situation that cant be done overnight which tend to get highlighted, sorting out the Corruption cant be done overnight, these things take time, and bring with them the hidden and obvious dangers to DU30, Im sure even now there are Plotters working on ways to have him removed be it either legally or illegally...

[London_Manila]

I think this is an instance where things will get worse before they get better, but there is no doubt that if DU30 can make the whole of the Philippines similar to Davao; No Smoking (Im a Smoker) in public, No Kids on the street after a certain time, No drinking after a certain time, No dogs roaming the streets, No Firecrackers, Not getting ripped off by Taxi Drivers, and Im sure there are many other things he has done to improve life in Davao of which im unaware of, then it will help the Philippines move forward. Much of this can be done quickly but its such as the Drug situation that cant be done overnight which tend to get highlighted, sorting out the Corruption cant be done overnight, these things take time, and bring with them the hidden and obvious dangers to DU30, Im sure even now there are Plotters working on ways to have him removed be it either legally or illegally...

Duterte does have some good ideas i am willing to admit that
Alcohol consumption and those late night Karaoke bars are 2 that spring to mind
Corruption is so widespread there and at all levels that will take forever to sort out

[Michael Parnham]

Let's review this issue in 12months time when he's settled in:Erm:

[purple]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/06/16/duterte-rejects-criticism-of-heros-burial-for-marcos

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/774774/well-pay-marcos-debt-until-2025

Durterte reckons Marcos is qualified for a heroes burial :crazy:

My father was killed during marcos time. I have no problems him being buried in the heroes burial. He is long time dead and have nothing to do with the present. What is done is done. Learn from the mistakes in the past and move on. At least Philippines have a true leader whose interests are serving the Filipino people and not the oligarchs. If Duterte would keep chasing the oligarchs who are crooks like previous administration did, nothing will happen to the poor filipino people.

You have to be a Filipino to truly understand what is it like to be.

Sure I don't like the killings. A barangay captain cousin of mine who is a drug pusher, who at one point shoot my brother on the foot for not able to pay for the shabu my brother owed years ago has been killed, not by the police ir army but by one of the hired killer. I feel sad for what is going on why.this have to be this way. But it is better than my brother. Right?

[grahamw48]

From an outsider's point of view, the majority of Filipinos appear to have been sucked dry by a small minority of crooked people running the show... for several hundred years.

Worst of all, they have been (and still are) under the jackboot of, and straightjacketed by the Roman Catholic church from birth to death. :NoNo:

Add to that an appallingly low standard of education, rife and blatent discrimination in for instance, employment, and you produce a country that will struggle for a very long time in the future. Sad.

[jonnijon]

They dont teach evolution in school thats for sure.:icon_lol:

[Arthur Little]

Arthur, fess up.

You like him because he's got a white beard. :biggrin:

:laughitupsmilie: ... y'mean like me? :nono-1-1:, Graham ... I'm just pleased that, in common with the subject of this thread, a man of his generation still has lots to offer ... based on the wisdom of maturity in contrast to the heavy responsibilities shouldered at a considerably earlier stage by younger politicians such as Bliar and Cameron. :smile:

[grahamw48]

Well he's certainly good at staying front page news. :smile:

[London_Manila]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/15/16/extrajudicial-killings-dont-look-at-us-palace-says

Who are they trying to fool :cwm23:

[Michael Parnham]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577569/lifestyle/marcos-is-no-hero-filipinos-protest-lnmb-burial-for-dictator

The crackpot Duterte thinks Marcos should have a heroes burial because at some stage Marcos was a soldier :NoNo:
I suppose he overlooked the Marcos reign of terror where thousands of people lost their lives at the hands of the military

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37076080

Duterte has much in common with Marcos and his human rights violations
History is repeating itself right now

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/07/10bn-dollar-question-marcos-millions-nick-davies

Plunder on a shocking scale

Yes, you only have to look at the films of Marcos that were made by Lino Brocka!

[Michael Parnham]

They dont teach evolution in school thats for sure.:icon_lol:

That's true, I wonder why?

[fred]

“I decided to resign my office after conferring with the office of the Supreme Court administrator,” Dagala, a municipal trial court judge in Dapa town in Siargao Island, said in an interview with local radio station dxKS-RPN.

Dagala said he hopes his resignation would dispel suspicion of partiality in any investigation that the government may conduct regarding his alleged involvement in the drug trade.

Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/806565/judge-on-duterte-drug-list-resigns-from-post-in-siargao#ixzz4HTDpsBmK


Who are they trying to fool :cwm23:

[London_Manila]

So eloquent and articulate Duterte is a top diplomat :icon_lol:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/08/16/16/duterte-reminded-against-use-of-gutter-language

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577853/news/nation/robredo-burying-marcos-at-libingan-may-affect-duterte-s-reputation/top_picks?order=2

http://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/08/12/16/duterte-unmoved-by-marcos-fake-war-medals-records

No one seems to care about these families and some people are keen on ignoring history in the Philippines

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577782/news/nation/families-of-desaparecidos-file-2nd-petition-to-stop-hero-s-burial-for-marcos

[fred]

Duterte has new ‘narcolist’.
President Rodrigo Duterte has a new list of politicians allegedly involved in the illegal drug trade and is likely to release their names soon, according to Senators Richard Gordon and JV Ejercito, despite criticism of his “name-and-shame” campaign.
The senators said they saw the President holding the list during a dinner meeting in Malacañang on Monday night. The list is longer and includes both incumbent and former elected officials.
“There are many names. There are more this time,” said Gordon, who was among seven senators present at the dinner meeting, which mainly tackled the administration’s tax reform agenda.


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[grahamw48]

Sheesh.... going to be a lot of nervous folks in the upper echelons of Filipino society right now. :cwm25:

No doubt many will have covered themselves by having US family connections, if not citizenship, to use as a bolt-hole, plus the odd bit of money-laundering.

[London_Manila]

Ramblings of a complete fruitcake :NoNo:

http://www.rappler.com/nation/145023-duterte-foreign-reporter-international-criticism?utm_content=buffer4e68c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[London_Manila]

The real murky world of the true Duterte starts to reveal itself :ReadIt:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/15/16/dutertes-sister-denies-lover-was-chopped-up-by-death-squad

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/09/15/16/davao-death-squad-composed-of-cops-rebel-returnees

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/15/16/paolo-duterte-denies-drug-abuse-links-to-vigilante-slays

[Michael Parnham]

Possibly another Marcos on the Horizon:Erm:

[grahamw48]

The guy is clearly a megalomaniac.

Very worrying times. :NoNo:

[Harry T]

Ramblings of a complete fruitcake :NoNo:

http://www.rappler.com/nation/145023-duterte-foreign-reporter-international-criticism?utm_content=buffer4e68c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Im sure if you keep posting anti DU30 propaganda some people will believe it, you dont by any chance belong to another forum which is vehemently anti Duterte... in all walks of life things sometimes get worse before they get better, now let me see its September how long has he been President...? as he says he is responsible to filipino people..
June 23rd we held Brexit we are still members of the EU we have not triggered our exit yet, but DU30 is expected to straighten out many wrongs that are apparent in filipino society in a few months.... lay off and give the guy a chance...

[johncar54]

but DU30 is expected to straighten out many wrongs that are apparent in filipino society in a few months.... lay off and give the guy a chance...

Sorry Harry but letting vigilantes loose on the population to kill those they think are undesirables will not lead to a more law abiding country.

[Steve.r]

My wife this morning tells me that there are so many killings going on that she sees in the news. I told her to go careful specially with the children. I know things are basically focussed on the drug users and pushers, but the problem is that it does appear to be 'open season' for vigilante groups.

What DU30 has done in the past will of course come up and bite him, but there will always be people trying to topple him, it happens here in the UK too in politics.

I also drew similarities to Marcos, and I really hope this power he has does not corrupt him, time will tell.

[Ako Si Jamie]

"Duterte was the first government official to visit Tacloban after Yolanda"

25 things you didn't know about Rodrigo Duterte.

http://www.filipiknow.net/rodrigo-duterte/

Click on the link LondonManila, it's a good read :biggrin:

[fred]

"These are serious allegations and we take them seriously, we will look into them," said US State Department deputy spokesperson Mark Toner.

"These are obviously serious fabricated allegations and we take them as a comedy, we laugh at them," said manong, Driver ng tricycle at manang Inday in the sari sari sa Divisoria.

[Terpe]

I used to be a big fan of Mr DU30
Recently he has demonstrated that he's not yet reached the level of statesman.

However all this nonsense in the press is, IMHO, just media hype and tsismis.

These issues are the subject of discussion and investigation daily.
The latest disclosures by some low level gun-for-hire simpleton are a complete nonsense.
Who put him up to this is a question.

Why nobody cares to comment on the unravelling corruption, mass murder, drugs fuelled business of politicians, police and drugs lords ?

[stevewool]

It does make me feel what may I be walking into when we make the move, ok that's not yet and it could be in a years time or even longer.
My biggest fear would be someone thinking we are rich and claiming we are doing something bad.
Where even we call home we must feel safe,

[grahamw48]

Oh, there will be no question about people taking it for granted that you are rich mate.

Hell, they even think I am rich. :icon_lol:

[Terpe]

It does make me feel what may I be walking into when we make the move, ok that's not yet and it could be in a years time or even longer.
My biggest fear would be someone thinking we are rich and claiming we are doing something bad.
Where even we call home we must feel safe,

Anyone considering a life in the Philippines must (IMHO) have a bloody good reason for doing so !!
And should be prepared to enjoy a lifestyle that does not in any way attract attention, interest or gossip.
It's a bit more than just low-profile.

[fred]

Why nobody cares to comment on the unravelling corruption, mass murder, drugs fuelled business of politicians, police and drugs lords ?

Because they are ignorant.
Not many outsiders understand the cancer that afflicts this country and how deep the wound may have to be in order to cut it out.
Filipino`s know what is necessary and that`s why they voted for this guy in a landslide.
If anything should happen to their newly elected leader,I bare not think of the consequences.
Politically speaking...The gloves are off.

[fred]

I watched Cayatano trying to thoroughly question De Lima`s "witness" today in order to find out if he was lying or telling the truth about being DU30`s ex hit man!!
He was constantly obstructed,bullied and intimidated by the chair and Trillianes...I thought there was going to be fisty cuffs to be honest!!
Anyway...Well done Cayatano!!! Could be President one day for this performance!! lol.


https://youtu.be/s3Go4AvLBvM

[London_Manila]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/16/16/us-look-into-duterte-death-squad-allegations

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/09/16/16/watchdog-says-un-should-step-in-to-probe-duterte

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/581718/news/nation/european-lawmakers-alarmed-by-drug-related-killings-in-phl

I predict that time is running out for this madman

The Duterte clan has an unhealthy grip on Davao and anyone who dares to question this Family is simply done away with

The only difference between Marcos and Duterte is that Marcos used the Military to butcher his own people and Duterte uses the Police force

Watching Duterte speeches during his last disastrous overseas trip its quite clear to see that this guy is unstable and a complete embarrassment to the Philippine people

Slaughtering thousands of your own people is never going to eradicate the drug problem

Making Duterte the president is akin to making a schools top playground bully the headmaster

[stevewool]

So what say our partners who maybe know a little more then we do.
All I see and read is what is said on here or I read on the internet, but remember sometimes the newspapers and news only show you so much,
I listen to Emma and I do listen to folk who's folks are there too, other then that I keep my mouth shut

[grahamw48]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/16/16/us-look-into-duterte-death-squad-allegations

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/09/16/16/watchdog-says-un-should-step-in-to-probe-duterte

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/581718/news/nation/european-lawmakers-alarmed-by-drug-related-killings-in-phl

I predict that time is running out for this madman

The Duterte clan has an unhealthy grip on Davao and anyone who dares to question this Family is simply done away with

The only difference between Marcos and Duterte is that Marcos used the Military to butcher his own people and Duterte uses the Police force

Watching Duterte speeches during his last disastrous overseas trip its quite clear to see that this guy is unstable and a complete embarrassment to the Philippine people

Slaughtering thousands of your own people is never going to eradicate the drug problem

Making Duterte the president is akin to making a schools top playground bully the headmaster

Wasn't Marcos also a FRIEND of the Western nations ?

I remember reading (in the 'Imelda' book) about how they used to borrow a PAL Jumbo Jet to go partying in Hollywood, etc.

[Ako Si Jamie]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/16/16/us-look-into-duterte-death-squad-allegations

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/09/16/16/watchdog-says-un-should-step-in-to-probe-duterte

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/581718/news/nation/european-lawmakers-alarmed-by-drug-related-killings-in-phl

I predict that time is running out for this madman

The Duterte clan has an unhealthy grip on Davao and anyone who dares to question this Family is simply done away with

The only difference between Marcos and Duterte is that Marcos used the Military to butcher his own people and Duterte uses the Police force

Watching Duterte speeches during his last disastrous overseas trip its quite clear to see that this guy is unstable and a complete embarrassment to the Philippine people

Slaughtering thousands of your own people is never going to eradicate the drug problem

Making Duterte the president is akin to making a schools top playground bully the headmaster

The previous governments have been embezzling public funds to an enormous degree for decades and now government officials are dealing in Shaba. If anyone's an embarrassment to the Philippine people, it's these lowlifes.

[fred]

The previous governments have been embezzling public funds to an enormous degree for decades and now government officials are dealing in Shaba. If anyone's an embarrassment to the Philippine people, it's these lowlifes.

Exactly... Their old lifestyles are under extreme threat...No wonder they are grasping at straws to try to impeach him.. They are getting desperate!

Senate probe of drug war looks like a 'demolition job,' analyst says.Self-confessed hitman Edgar Matobato could not substantiate his claim that Duterte orchestrated the murders of suspected criminals and political opponents in the city when he was questioned by Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano, said University of Sto. Tomas political science professor Edmund Tayao.
"Clearly, it's a demolition job. When I was listening to the investigation, there's no other way to think of but as a demolition job," Tayao told ANC.


http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/17/16/senate-probe-of-drug-war-looks-like-a-demolition-job-analyst-says

[Arthur Little]

So what say our partners who maybe know a little more then we do.

Steve, :poke: ... see Fred's remarks - directly underneath - about what the VAST MAJORITY of Filipinos think:


Filipino`s know what is necessary and that`s why they voted for this guy in a landslide.
If anything should happen to their newly elected leader, I dare not think of the consequences.

:olddude: ... PRECISELY!


The previous governments have been embezzling public funds to an enormous degree for decades and now government officials are dealing in Shaba. If anyone's an embarrassment to the Philippine people, it's these lowlifes.

Quite so, Jamie ... :iagree:!

[Terpe]

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/16/16/us-look-into-duterte-death-squad-allegations

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/09/16/16/watchdog-says-un-should-step-in-to-probe-duterte

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/581718/news/nation/european-lawmakers-alarmed-by-drug-related-killings-in-phl

I predict that time is running out for this madman

The Duterte clan has an unhealthy grip on Davao and anyone who dares to question this Family is simply done away with

The only difference between Marcos and Duterte is that Marcos used the Military to butcher his own people and Duterte uses the Police force

Watching Duterte speeches during his last disastrous overseas trip its quite clear to see that this guy is unstable and a complete embarrassment to the Philippine people

Slaughtering thousands of your own people is never going to eradicate the drug problem

Making Duterte the president is akin to making a schools top playground bully the headmaster

Actually the title of this thread "Dutertes Summary Execution Policy" is just as misleading and imbalanced as most of LM's posts and links to sensationalised media reporting.

There's no provision of confirmed statistics or breakdown of firearm-related death rate.
No indication of stats for justifiable/unjustifiable homicides or homicides by other means.
No data on willful killing.

Using such language as :-

"to butcher his own people" and

"Slaughtering thousands of your own people"

paints a completely abstract picture of life here.

Anyone who even halfway believes those kind of statements to be a true reflection then stay away. Don't come here.

Oh and by the way steer clear of the USA which has a much higher murder rate.

[Harry T]

Its nice to read some unbiased comments on here, some of the PR is clearly anti DU30... and its no wonder when so many high ranking officials are involved in illegal activities that they begin to get worried for there comfortable and ill gotten gains, this comes at a time when many filipinos still struggle in there every day life, to even put food on the table, and yes i have seen it first hand...
As for some of the comments on here they amount to little more than scaremongering, and one begins to wonder if there may be deeper motives behind them ? :crazy:

[stevewool]

Whats that famous saying "boots on the ground",
Well thank god there are a few members who have just that, so when they speak about how wonderful or bad it is my big ears prick up.
I am so reliant on Emma for our future if the Philippines is going to be our home, but having a few friends who have lived there a number of years well "every little helps" they say.
Keep up the good work the few of you who are there and trying to keep us new ones safe

[grahamw48]

Well I'll be there again from Nov 2 for a few weeks.

Whatever is going on will be no worse than anything else I've encountered there over the years.

I don't even try to understand Filipino politics. Gives me brain-ache... and certainly NEVER discuss it with the locals. :NoNo:



Plenty of pesos to my pound is all I ask. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Doc Alan]

I have followed this thread like many other Forum members, and appreciate the spectrum of opinions and links within it.


Anyone with an interest in the Philippines is bound to have an opinion about Rodrigo Duterte. As with clinical medicine, I look for facts based on best evidence to form my opinion. While my filipino friends almost all so far support the new president, I don’t live in the country and take note, rather than make judgements.


It appears Mr Duterte took over a country which was doing well economically. I wish him and the country which elected him well for the future :xxgrinning--00xx3:.

[Michael Parnham]

So what say our partners who maybe know a little more then we do.
All I see and read is what is said on here or I read on the internet, but remember sometimes the newspapers and news only show you so much,
I listen to Emma and I do listen to folk who's folks are there too, other then that I keep my mouth shut

Check out Al Jazeera news!

[stevewool]

Check out Al Jazeera news!

No thank you,

[jonnijon]

Nothing to do with us, we are only guest's here. Don't get involved.

[Steve.r]

Nothing to do with us, we are only guest's here. Don't get involved.

But so many of us have a vested interest in some way or another. We all love the Philippines and know how difficult it is for so many there just to live. We in the western world know of the reported corruption, and as we have been there we know this to be correct. At least the new guy is doing something to weed out the bad eggs.

Even though I posted about my wife telling me about the killings every day on the tv and locally, there is no fear, it is like a cleansing of people that prey on the weak. I have voiced my concerns for my family of course but if DU30 is true to his words and actions, my children will grow up in a place where there are going to be far less drug pushers and addicts to worry about. This can only be a good thing.

[fred]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TILHj3eI694

[Michael Parnham]

Fair comment Fred!

[stevewool]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TILHj3eI694

Well there you go,
Sometimes you have to stand back and listen rather then read it in the paper.
Remember when it was being reported from everyone who does not live here about how bad it would be if we left the EU,
Well we are still here, so let's give the people and there new leaders a chance too.

Plus thank you to the secret rep giver

[Ako Si Jamie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TILHj3eI694

Well said, young man!

[Harry T]

So it appears that the Deaths are much lower than whats being reported elsewhere..

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/drug-dealing-daughter-of-british-playboy-shot-dead-in-manila-during-bloody-drugs-crackdown-by-president-nicknamed-dirty-harry/ar-BBwjsKi?li=BBoPRmx

[grahamw48]

It's all rather confusing.

I really don't know what to think. :anerikke:

Hopefully the political situation there won't impact on us foreigners too much. A weak peso would be nice though... being selfish.

[fred]

The vid below has slightly annoying auto narration but still provides the perspective to those it was aimed at...IMO.


https://youtu.be/uGuValNvDIs

Petition below..

WE are the sovereign people of the Republic of the Philippines. We are sending this petition as an exercise of our collective right to self-determination, which is guaranteed in both the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and International Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights (ICESCR). By virtue of the right to self-determination, WE, the sovereign people of the Philippines, can freely determine our political status and freely pursue our own economic, social, and cultural development.

More here...
https://www.change.org/p/we-support-president-duterte-s-fight-against-the-illegal-drug-trade?recruiter=27319855&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-reason_msg&fb_ref=Default

[fred]

But so many of us have a vested interest in some way or another. We all love the Philippines and know how difficult it is for so many there just to live. We in the western world know of the reported corruption, and as we have been there we know this to be correct. At least the new guy is doing something to weed out the bad eggs.

Even though I posted about my wife telling me about the killings every day on the tv and locally, there is no fear, it is like a cleansing of people that prey on the weak. I have voiced my concerns for my family of course but if DU30 is true to his words and actions, my children will grow up in a place where there are going to be far less drug pushers and addicts to worry about. This can only be a good thing.

This is the way I see it Steve.


Filipino`s are very capable of being law abiding citizens...
Just look at how they behave themselves on the whole when they work,visit and live in other countries..They make exemplary citizens in my view.
The problem is that over here,they know they can get away with certain things even if it only means paying a little snack money (baon) to take a short cut..
Abroad,thats not possible and they know it..
About every 6 months here they decide to enforce helmet laws..So everyone goes out and buys a helmet..
After about a month,the law is relaxed and forgotten...No more helmets for 6 months/a year!
Once they know that something is strictly BAWAL (prohibited),they follow,but if they do not,there MUST be consequences other wise who cares?

The Mayor of Tagbilaran has just bought about 500 wheel clamping devices and has placed 100`s of warning signs around the town about illegal parking..(Starting September)
Since then,Ive noticed NO illegal parking anymore on national roads..
They have employed what seems like another 200 Parking attendants with posh uniforms that are allowed to clamp cars and bikes and they have been doing so..Large fines for release BTW...Pics of these strange looking yellow clumps of metal viced onto their vechicle wheels!!
Ive never seen anything like it here in the province.
This has all come about because of DU30`s attitude towards breaking laws.
DU30 is in a far harder struggle against the Shabu trade but as people learn,without a single doubt in their mind`s that they will suffer the consequences by breaking this law,they will stop..
I prey that they will stop so that we can see an end to this so called "war".
As I mentioned in another post..A U.P (university of the Philippines) Professor told me..."Filipino`s know they are being naughty and they voted for papa DU30 to give them a damned good spanking"
This spanking is now being administered...You better believe it!

[London_Manila]

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/09/20/1625633/philippine-image-ruined-killings-not-me

Duterte promised to eradicate drugs within the Philippines in 6 months (he stated that)
Now he wants another 6 months........
I think you will find he promised to step down if he never reached this target

Anyone who dares to question this lunatic is dealt with

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/581981/news/nation/duterte-denies-role-in-de-lima-ouster

As for the expats supporting Duterte i would imagine its only a matter of time until he turns on you lot
The Philippine Tourism board has had their funds severely cut by this administration already

With over 1500 people killed already in this so called war on drugs then words like butchering are most warranted
These victims were shot on sight and then the lame old excuse about some gun battle that never takes place
None of these people were given any fair justice or due process

[Terpe]

Anyone who dares to question this lunatic is dealt with

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/581981/news/nation/duterte-denies-role-in-de-lima-ouster


From the above link:-

"De Lima refused to comment on allegations that she received P3 million a month during her term as Justice chief."

[fred]

From the above link:-

"De Lima refused to comment on allegations that she received P3 million a month during her term as Justice chief."

Some real dramatic testimony today..
The drug dealer inmate that got the cash to DeLima (3 mill a month) in 2014) says he even spoke with her on the phone from Bilibid prison to make sure the order was from her..
To prove it,he showed them his phone address book and gave them the number... A woman senator checked her Phone because she had her on contacts... The number matched!! lol
One of the older members of this committee suggested they call the number there and then!!
Definitely couldn't make this .... up!! lol.
Very entertaining!:icon_lol:

[fred]

Anyone who dares to question this lunatic is dealt with

Think on.:wink:

[grahamw48]

Certainly a gift to the media. :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Harry T]

Some real dramatic testimony today..
The drug dealer inmate that got the cash to DeLima (3 mill a month) in 2014) says he even spoke with her on the phone from Bilibid prison to make sure the order was from her..
To prove it,he showed them his phone address book and gave them the number... A woman senator checked her Phone because she had her on contacts... The number matched!! lol
One of the older members of this committee suggested they call the number there and then!!
Definitely couldn't make this .... up!! lol.
Very entertaining!:icon_lol:


Former Justice Minister who allegedly has her Drug involved Driver as her Lover, who also allegedly received 3 million per month from Drug Dealers, the fruit never drops far from the Tree, and she has the Gall to accuse DU30 of any number of things, none of which can be confirmed.. I suspect 1 or 2 Senators need to look in the Mirror...hope i can watch this somewhere...better than Corrie and Emmerdale put together Hahahahaha.

[fred]

Former Justice Minister who allegedly has her Drug involved Driver as her Lover, who also allegedly received 3 million per month from Drug Dealers, the fruit never drops far from the Tree, and she has the Gall to accuse DU30 of any number of things, none of which can be confirmed.. I suspect 1 or 2 Senators need to look in the Mirror...hope i can watch this somewhere...better than Corrie and Emmerdale put together Hahahahaha.

I think she`s gonna need a new Sim card Harry.







Says she's being harassed after her mobile no., address were publicly disclosed


"I have no adequate words to express my utter dismay about the lack of foresight and/or utter lack of sheer humanity displayed today during what I can only describe as a blatant exercise in harassment and persecution that is the so-called House of Representatives 'inquiry'. I condemn and vehemently protest the sheer indecency and foulness of allowing my cellphone number and home address to be publicly disclosed," she said.


http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/20/16/de-lima-hits-house-over-privacy-violation

[London_Manila]

Duterte continues to show his great diplomacy skills :icon_lol:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/20/16/f-you-duterte-tells-european-union

What an uncouth buffoon this guy is

2 weeks ago he was bad mouthing the Americans now its all change :doh

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/20/16/philippines-needs-us-in-sea-row-with-china-duterte

A complete fruitcake who changes his views and opinions on a weekly basis

[stevewool]

A complete fruitcake who changes his views and opinions on a weekly basis

Don't most of us do that,

[fred]

She must have been really really bad because.....

http://manila.coconuts.co/sites/manila.coconuts.co/files/styles/article_header/public/field/image/leila-banner.jpg

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread.php/59510-Duterte-s-Summary-Execution-Policy?p=567594#post567594

:yikes:

[grahamw48]

I condemn and vehemently protest the sheer indecency and foulness of allowing my cellphone number and home address to be publicly disclosed," she said.

... and this in a country where the press are permitted to publish photographs and film footage of 'suspects' in police station charge rooms, to show decapitated bodies, road accident victims, dead babies dumped at the side of the road etc, etc. :NoNo:

[Michael Parnham]

Don't most of us do that,

I wouldn't have thought so:Erm:

[stevewool]

I wouldn't have thought so:Erm:

Well Michael i can assure you i change my views and change my mind quite often, and some may think i am a fruit cake too, but i know i am not , and i am sure Duterte is no fruitcake either,
But i know a few who are :cwm3::crazy::Rasp::Erm:

[Michael Parnham]

Well Michael i can assure you i change my views and change my mind quite often, and some may think i am a fruit cake too, but i know i am not , and i am sure Duterte is no fruitcake either,
But i know a few who are :cwm3::crazy::Rasp::Erm:

Nothing wrong with changing one's mind, even the most brainy people change their mind and I wouldn't refer to any one as being a fruitcake:smile:

[stevewool]

Nothing wrong with changing one's mind, even the most brainy people change their mind and I wouldn't refer to any one as being a fruitcake:smile:

So why comment on what i said saying " you wouldn't have thought so"

[London_Manila]

Marcos was so great :NoNo:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/21/16/robredo-calls-for-vigilance-vs-return-of-martial-law

Despite the ongoing campaign against her with a few crooked crooks dragged out of prison with made up stories she still continues to be the only beacon of light within the Philippines :xxgrinning--00xx3:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/21/16/de-lima-to-un-probe-duterte-drug-war

Another charm offensive by Duterte

http://news.abs-cbn.com/halalan2016/nation/04/20/16/duterte-tells-chr-womens-groups-go-to-hell

http://news.abs-cbn.com/halalan2016/nation/04/20/16/its-final-duterte-takes-back-rape-remark

Duterte's chief henchman vows to continue the slaughter

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/21/16/bato-intensity-of-drug-war-to-continue-till-2017

[Michael Parnham]

So why comment on what i said saying " you wouldn't have thought so"

I merely replied to your question:smile:

[Terpe]

Seems that Mr DU30 has already himself invited both the UN and the EU to come to the Philippines and make any investigation they want.

[jonnijon]

Marcos was so great :NoNo:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/21/16/robredo-calls-for-vigilance-vs-return-of-martial-law

Despite the ongoing campaign against her with a few crooked crooks dragged out of prison with made up stories she still continues to be the only beacon of light within the Philippines :xxgrinning--00xx3:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/21/16/de-lima-to-un-probe-duterte-drug-war

Another charm offensive by Duterte

http://news.abs-cbn.com/halalan2016/nation/04/20/16/duterte-tells-chr-womens-groups-go-to-hell

http://news.abs-cbn.com/halalan2016/nation/04/20/16/its-final-duterte-takes-back-rape-remark

Duterte's chief henchman vows to continue the slaughter

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/21/16/bato-intensity-of-drug-war-to-continue-till-2017

Sorry but you do not have a clue about real life here in the Philippines.

[London_Manila]

The Duterte effect on the economy

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/09/23/16/foreign-selloff-shows-discomfort-with-duterte-rhetoric-analyst-says

Its all change again :crazy:

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/582398/news/nation/duterte-responds-lumayas-kayo-i-ll-deal-with-china-russia-instead

[Terpe]

The Duterte effect on the economy

Which is what exactly ? In your opinion.

Yes, there are some outflows.......causing a softness in the Peso..thank goodness as far as I'm concerned.

But just what is the impact on the local economy?

[stevewool]

But just what is the impact on the local economy?

The impact is that because he is claiming Duterte is killing everyone, there is no locals to buy ought local:Erm:

[fred]

I tell you one change in the local economy...
Shabu market has gone sky high...Through the roof I`m informed.
On the bright side though,I suppose the usual customers could save a few bob and spend their shabu budget on things like rice for the kids...Stuff like that.

[Harry T]

Im sorry but i just dont read LMs posts on his anti Duterte propaganda anymore, i prefer to read what guys on the ground there in Phills post, and until such a time as Peter, Fred, john john come on here and say life is worsening, then i will continue to believe the election of DU30 can only be good for Phills in general..:smile:

[jonnijon]

Im sorry but i just dont read LMs posts on his anti Duterte propaganda anymore, i prefer to read what guys on the ground there in Phills post, and until such a time as Peter, Fred, john john come on here and say life is worsening, then i will continue to believe the election of DU30 can only be good for Phills in general..:smile:

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[fred]

Heavy equipment found at Arayat shabu lab



http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2016/09/Shabu-lab-in-Arayat-Pampanga-contributed-photo-Inq-Central-Luzon-300x225.jpg


Police busted a big shabu laboratory at the foothills of Mt. Arayat in Barangay Lacquios in Arayat town in Pampanga, the second to be discovered since Sept. 7 when an underground shabu laboratory was found in nearby Magalang town.

Update

CITY OF SAN FERNANDO — Seven industrial distillators, a reaction mixer and a combustion tower were found at a shabu laboratory which was shut down on Thursday (Sept. 22) by the Pampanga police, Chief Supt. Aaron Aquino, Central Luzon police director, said.


http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/818134/heavy-equipment-found-at-arayat-shabu-lab

[fred]

PSEi hits two-week high as Fed stands pat on rateshttp://news.abs-cbn.com/video/business/09/22/16/psei-hits-two-week-high-as-fed-stands-pat-on-rates

[London_Manila]

Duterte keeps on throwing money around like its going out of fashion :cwm24:

Double pay for the military and the police and these cash incentives

http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/09/23/16/cash-for-drugs-drug-kills-how-will-duterte-pay-up

[London_Manila]

Duterte's Approach to drug control is never going to succeed :ReadIt:

http://pattayaone.news/en/why-thailand-softened-its-war-on-drugs/

[Michael Parnham]

Interesting read.:xxgrinning--00xx3:

[grahamw48]

Fear not... citizens: :xxgrinning--00xx3:



.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/grahamw48/Duterte%202_zpsxecmofa7.jpg~original

[London_Manila]

Which is what exactly ? In your opinion.

Yes, there are some outflows.......causing a softness in the Peso..thank goodness as far as I'm concerned.

But just what is the impact on the local economy?

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/582789/money/economy/peso-sinks-to-7-yr-low-as-investors-pull-out-funds-from-phl-markets

As long as Duterte and his henchmen keep on murdering people without any recourse to fair justice then of course international investors will give the Philippines a miss

Investors want stability and a government that takes a measured approach to everything
With Duterte all you get is foul mouthed rants and a international policy that moves between the USA one week and then the next week he bangs on about siding with Russia and China :crazy:

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/582786/news/nation/duterte-i-m-about-to-cross-the-rubicon-with-the-united-states

International investors want stability and a clear straightforward foreign policy and Duterte will never be able provide that

[Rory]

I know i have not been in Manila but i have been in Cebu city every other day and all seems quite normal. I admit that i am not in slum areas as well. The only thing i have noticed over the last month or so is the amount of police check points. I have been pulled over 3 times in 3 weeks and been asked for my driving licence and documents for the car. I have passed Check points every day. Last year i never sawing police check points never mind getting pulled over. I think the bombing at the Davao christmas market has a lot to do with the check points rather than Duterte's policies and the war on drugs.

I do most of my travelling by car up and down the coast from Cebu city to Argao. Some great views on the way and i feel quite safe where i go. Luck for me and the wife we have a house by the beach in a gated community, very quiet area with neighbours that are mostly foreign guys with filipino wives. I do not know anyone that has lost someone since Duterte came to power.

[fred]

I do not know anyone that has lost someone since Duterte came to power.

What??? Not even one?
Dont tell that to the Foreign press...They will accuse you of down playing the situation..

[stevewool]

What??? Not even one?
Dont tell that to the Foreign press...They will accuse you of down playing the situation..

I lost my nephew, but I don't think that counts

[London_Manila]

Now the fruitcake starts blaming the Americans :doh

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/27/16/duterte-claims-us-manipulating-peso

Its his mouth and his barbaric policies that are scaring investors away

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/27/16/duterte-tough-talk-stirs-investor-unease-european-chamber

[Terpe]

C'mon Peso keep sliding down :Jump:

[Terpe]

So many new laws/directives/local gvt regulations that are directly improving the daily life of Filipinos.

[stevewool]

C'mon Peso keep sliding down :Jump:

Now that is as funny as my jokes:laugher:

[London_Manila]

Jumping into bed with China and Russia will end in tears also :doh

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/28/16/duterte-2016-ph-us-military-exercises-will-be-the-last


http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/583137/news/nation/cabinet-officials-deny-duterte-wants-end-to-joint-phl-us-military-exercises

Duterte's foreign policy is a joke and as clear as mud !

[London_Manila]

C'mon Peso keep sliding down :Jump:

It might be ok for a few expats but eventually it will start effecting the whole Pinoy economy :cwm25:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/09/28/16/philippine-economy-slips-in-global-competitiveness-ranking

[Terpe]

It might be ok for a few expats but eventually it will start effecting the whole Pinoy economy :cwm25:

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/09/28/16/philippine-economy-slips-in-global-competitiveness-ranking

The DU30 administration is clearing away the red tape and corruption and investing heavily in needed infrastructure.

If you look further down the link you posted you'll see the headline
"PH economy likely grew fastest in Southeast Asia in Q1 - Moody's"

Growth in the Philippine economy is above 6% and is forecast to continue.
Something the UK can only dream about.

[fred]

Jumping into bed with China and Russia will end in tears also :doh

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/28/16/duterte-2016-ph-us-military-exercises-will-be-the-last


http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/583137/news/nation/cabinet-officials-deny-duterte-wants-end-to-joint-phl-us-military-exercises

Duterte's foreign policy is a joke and as clear as mud !

"foreign policy" is secondary..His priority is poor Filipino`s and home land affairs..If he doesn't deliver a hammer blow against both the drug and corruption problem then just like the last 40 years..Nothing will change here.
Americans in Mindanao did nothing to deplete Abu sayaff,taking of hostages or even the Ampatuan murderers in Maguindanao.. Where were you and the human rights advocates then?? What did you all achieve?

He questions also the US/Filipino defense agreement...Asks them will they really defend the R.P against a Chinese invasion?? The yanks caused the problems we now see in Syria..Who knows if they would in effect abandon the Philippines if China`s intention was to invade?
Why cant they or the U.N stop the Chinese building islands in contested sea`s even when the international court ruling favoured the Philippines?
In reality,the R.P stands alone and DU30 has told the Chinese plainly that he can either talk to them or prepare for war.. He warned them that if they did invade it would not be an easy task and Filipino`s would fight till the last drop of blood..He also admitted that the R.P would lose and badly.
So..He suggests talking and negotiations...I suspect he will negotiate mining,oil and gas well drilling via resource project sharing agreements.
This kind of negotiation will have no chance whilst the US has forces in Mindanao or whilst they are playing war games in the south China sea with the Filipino navy.
Duterte knows that any serious talks with China would be practically impossible under those circumstances..
He doesn't trust the west`s promises and has decided to negotiate from a more independent angle for whats best for the Philippines and the Filipino people.
I think he`s nowhere near as "mad" as you and the politically correct, uneducated western media make out.

Lets see if you can rebuff my or others posts without posting another liberal biased link or another dumb one liner!! lol

[fred]

Salamat Steve.R!

[Steve.r]

Salamat Steve.R!Welcome Fred :xxgrinning--00xx3:

[Trefor]

America is as much if not more of a bully than China is so I don't blame Duterte. Why do you think they want to run exercises in Asia? don't they have enough space nearer home?

Also, they won't let the local 'relationship' flounder so easily, they will come round and do positive things for the Philippines in time to keep their allies near China.

[Terpe]

Mr LM,

It's clear you have no positivity at all concerning the Philippines or it's governance.
It's clear you have no positivity at all concerning the Duterte administration.

Why do you continue to post such repetitive negative links ?
What positivity or indeed benefit do you bring to our online community here ?

Why do you feel the need to continue any connection to the membership of this forum given your clear negativity and lack of intelligent insight into the politics, economy, culture, characteristics, traditions and ethnicity of the Philippines and it's people ?

Just curious

[jonnijon]

Mr LM,

It's clear you have no positivity at all concerning the Philippines or it's governance.
It's clear you have no positivity at all concerning the Duterte administration.

Why do you continue to post such repetitive negative links ?
What positivity or indeed benefit do you bring to our online community here ?

Why do you feel the need to continue any connection to the membership of this forum given your clear negativity and lack of intelligent insight into the politics, economy, culture, characteristics, traditions and ethnicity of the Philippines and it's people ?

Just curious

:xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3::xxgrinning--00xx3:

[London_Manila]

Mr LM,

It's clear you have no positivity at all concerning the Philippines or it's governance.
It's clear you have no positivity at all concerning the Duterte administration.

Why do you continue to post such repetitive negative links ?
What positivity or indeed benefit do you bring to our online community here ?

Why do you feel the need to continue any connection to the membership of this forum given your clear negativity and lack of intelligent insight into the politics, economy, culture, characteristics, traditions and ethnicity of the Philippines and it's people ?

Just curious

Of course i need to respond to deluded people when its comes to Duterte

FYI i want the best for the Philippines and its people :smile:

Do you really think a forum where people just pay lip service to Duterte is so brilliant

There is another side to Duterte which you and most others on this site fail to see

I have been proved right before like when i pointed out that Mindanao was not safe and you and the rest jumped on me for even suggesting that :NoNo: So what happened a few weeks back in Davao !

Instead of just defending Duterte all the time and pretending that everything is just so fine and dandy in the Philippines with a madman at the helm i suggest you come into the real world

Like most of Duterte's supporters you just can't take any criticism of him and i don't find that very healthy at all

Most of the members on here just go along with what a few mods decide to post and even jump to your defense

Anyone with their own brain and different views is stamped on and a forum should reflect all views even if you personally don't care for them........

Mark my words i will be proved right on the Duterte issue in the long run and then we can all look back on this thread with amazement

There is nothing positive to post about Duterte and negative views are just as worthy as positive ones

You should be welcoming all views on Duterte and not just views that you agree with

People should be made aware of the other side of Duterte and my links come from bona fide Philippine news websites and thats not propaganda that someone tried to accuse me of before

I like the way some on here just to suite their own argument accuse any Philippine news website that dares to post anything negative about Duterte as being biased

So you only want forum members that post only pro Duterte views and agrees with everything any mod decides to post

[fred]

Of course i need to respond to deluded people when its comes to Duterte

FYI i want the best for the Philippines and its people :smile:

Do you really think a forum where people just pay lip service to Duterte is so brilliant

There is another side to Duterte which you and most others on this site fail to see

I have been proved right before like when i pointed out that Mindanao was not safe and you and the rest jumped on me for even suggesting that :NoNo: So what happened a few weeks back in Davao !

Instead of just defending Duterte all the time and pretending that everything is just so fine and dandy in the Philippines with a madman at the helm i suggest you come into the real world

Like most of Duterte's supporters you just can't take any criticism of him and i don't find that very healthy at all

Most of the members on here just go along with what a few mods decide to post and even jump to your defense

Anyone with their own brain and different views is stamped on and a forum should reflect all views even if you personally don't care for them........

Mark my words i will be proved right on the Duterte issue in the long run and then we can all look back on this thread with amazement

There is nothing positive to post about Duterte and negative views are just as worthy as positive ones

You should be welcoming all views on Duterte and not just views that you agree with

People should be made aware of the other side of Duterte and my links come from bona fide Philippine news websites and thats not propaganda that someone tried to accuse me of before

I like the way some on here just to suite their own argument accuse any Philippine news website that dares to post anything negative about Duterte as being biased

So you only want forum members that post only pro Duterte views and agrees with everything any mod decides to post


Hell of a rant that....Glad you got it off your chest!
Nice bait/switch technique too!!!!
Why do members feel that have to agree with a spam deleter like me? :Erm:
Has any moderator here ever edited one of your posts?
If we are going to look back on this thread in lets say 2 years time to compare notes we will need some specific predictions from you...Thus far..Nada.
The proof of the pudding...

[Harry T]

Of course i need to respond to deluded people when its comes to Duterte

FYI i want the best for the Philippines and its people :smile:

Do you really think a forum where people just pay lip service to Duterte is so brilliant

There is another side to Duterte which you and most others on this site fail to see

I have been proved right before like when i pointed out that Mindanao was not safe and you and the rest jumped on me for even suggesting that :NoNo: So what happened a few weeks back in Davao !

Instead of just defending Duterte all the time and pretending that everything is just so fine and dandy in the Philippines with a madman at the helm i suggest you come into the real world

Like most of Duterte's supporters you just can't take any criticism of him and i don't find that very healthy at all

Most of the members on here just go along with what a few mods decide to post and even jump to your defense

Anyone with their own brain and different views is stamped on and a forum should reflect all views even if you personally don't care for them........

Mark my words i will be proved right on the Duterte issue in the long run and then we can all look back on this thread with amazement

There is nothing positive to post about Duterte and negative views are just as worthy as positive ones

You should be welcoming all views on Duterte and not just views that you agree with

People should be made aware of the other side of Duterte and my links come from bona fide Philippine news websites and thats not propaganda that someone tried to accuse me of before

I like the way some on here just to suite their own argument accuse any Philippine news website that dares to post anything negative about Duterte as being biased

So you only want forum members that post only pro Duterte views and agrees with everything any mod decides to post

If some terrorist, some person who has a grudge against others, for whatever reason be it personal, religous, or whatever reason, decides that he/she wants to plant a bomb somewhere then its difficult but can be done, i can go back as far as the Birmingham Pub Bombings, or more recently we had some in London did that mean the Government of the time were Madmen or Women ?, is the present President of France, Hollande similar to Duterte of course they were/are not.. so your example of what happened in Mindanao ie Davao cannot be down to Duterte..

It has become apparent that you have a clear dislike of Duterte, i will read, and listen to any balanced arguement for or against, but you my friend constantly post negative DU30 propaganda, i think it was me that used that word previously, i also said maybe you may have other reasons for constantly posting such biased news..
I dont claim Duterte is perfect, he makes mistakes like all of us do, but for YOU so say that there is NOTHING positive to post about Duterte is clearly wrong, and its comments like that that get peoples backs up, there are people who live in the Philippines who can see improvements being made, yes Duterte does do things his way, but thats what the Filipino people voted for, he didnt lie about what he would do beforehand, and now he is doing it, who are you or i to disregard the wishes of people who wanted that.. wether it proves to be right or wrong in the long run no-one can tell.
All that most of us on here are asking for is give us the TRUE facts from BOTH sides, what you are doing is giving us one sided views, i can only presume that you wanted the vast majority of Filipino people to continue as before, which was to struggle to find work, to struggle to afford health Care, to struggle to run a small business, to struggle to put food on the table, and clothes on there back, and to be exploited by the system that existed for many years, and while that was going on, others were making money through corrupt, and illegal practices that have been rife throughout Government and the Country as a whole.. If you do support that, well shame on you.. :NoNo: The Filipino people decided in a fairly run election that they had had enough of that, and they wanted an opportunity to improve there lives.. they decided Duterte was the man for that, and they elected him as there President, the least anyone can do you included, is give him time to achieve this, it was never going to be easy, and so its proving.. obviously some people are kicking and screaming because they can see there opportunity for further ill gotten gains being taken away..
Duterte has invited the UN, the EU, Human rights groups, or indeed anyone who cares to come and see for themselves whats actually happening, all he asks is that they be fair in the things that they see and report.
Can i just suggest you keep a constant eye out in London for anything untoward or suspicous that you may see in as we have been warned that Terrorist activity is highly likely, but then Im saying as you were saying its not safe in London or anywhere else in the World, Mindanao is no exception to that.. :smile:
Nothing against you personally LM but i am asking you to be fair with your viewpoint.. I May or May not agree with everything Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem, or UKIP stand for or do, but i dont come here every day bemoaning that fact...

[grahamw48]

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[Trefor]

Duterte really does need to keep his trap shut sometimes though. His recent outburst won't do him any favours and just fuels his detractors. Better off to say nothing than say some of the crap he comes out with IMO.

P.S. Keep up the good work Duterte!

[fred]

If some terrorist, some person who has a grudge against others, for whatever reason be it personal, religous, or whatever reason, decides that he/she wants to plant a bomb somewhere then its difficult but can be done, i can go back as far as the Birmingham Pub Bombings, or more recently we had some in London did that mean the Government of the time were Madmen or Women ?, is the present President of France, Hollande similar to Duterte of course they were/are not.. so your example of what happened in Mindanao ie Davao cannot be down to Duterte..

It has become apparent that you have a clear dislike of Duterte, i will read, and listen to any balanced arguement for or against, but you my friend constantly post negative DU30 propaganda, i think it was me that used that word previously, i also said maybe you may have other reasons for constantly posting such biased news..
I dont claim Duterte is perfect, he makes mistakes like all of us do, but for YOU so say that there is NOTHING positive to post about Duterte is clearly wrong, and its comments like that that get peoples backs up, there are people who live in the Philippines who can see improvements being made, yes Duterte does do things his way, but thats what the Filipino people voted for, he didnt lie about what he would do beforehand, and now he is doing it, who are you or i to disregard the wishes of people who wanted that.. wether it proves to be right or wrong in the long run no-one can tell.
All that most of us on here are asking for is give us the TRUE facts from BOTH sides, what you are doing is giving us one sided views, i can only presume that you wanted the vast majority of Filipino people to continue as before, which was to struggle to find work, to struggle to afford health Care, to struggle to run a small business, to struggle to put food on the table, and clothes on there back, and to be exploited by the system that existed for many years, and while that was going on, others were making money through corrupt, and illegal practices that have been rife throughout Government and the Country as a whole.. If you do support that, well shame on you.. :NoNo: The Filipino people decided in a fairly run election that they had had enough of that, and they wanted an opportunity to improve there lives.. they decided Duterte was the man for that, and they elected him as there President, the least anyone can do you included, is give him time to achieve this, it was never going to be easy, and so its proving.. obviously some people are kicking and screaming because they can see there opportunity for further ill gotten gains being taken away..
Duterte has invited the UN, the EU, Human rights groups, or indeed anyone who cares to come and see for themselves whats actually happening, all he asks is that they be fair in the things that they see and report.
Can i just suggest you keep a constant eye out in London for anything untoward or suspicous that you may see in as we have been warned that Terrorist activity is highly likely, but then Im saying as you were saying its not safe in London or anywhere else in the World, Mindanao is no exception to that.. :smile:
Nothing against you personally LM but i am asking you to be fair with your viewpoint.. I May or May not agree with everything Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem, or UKIP stand for or do, but i dont come here every day bemoaning that fact...

I think Du30 just shot himself in the foot this time Harry....
He just said Hitler killed 6 million innocent Jews and he`s criticized because he`s happy to kill 3 million criminals if necessary.
He`s treading on very thin ice!
I agree with his policies thus far but to be quite honest..He doesn't do him self any favours at times.

[Arthur Little]

:poke: ... let's face it ... :anerikke: ... the vast majority of Filipinos know their new President has the BEST interests of his people at heart.

:yeahthat:'s what counts.

[Terpe]

I think Du30 just shot himself in the foot this time Harry....
He just said Hitler killed 6 million innocent Jews and he`s criticized because he`s happy to kill 3 million criminals if necessary.
He`s treading on very thin ice!
I agree with his policies thus far but to be quite honest..He doesn't do him self any favours at times.

He really doesn't have any idea or understanding about international relations and diplomacy.
He often says the most outlandish things.
I'm sure it'll be his downfall one of these days.

Apart from that he's doing a good job policy wise on all fronts.
Even the IMF supports his 10 point plan.

I see that the 25 day softening of the Peso has halted.
Wonder how the Pound will fair now?
at 1.29 against the dollar it's not much of a showing. Decided to make a transfer today with PNB at P62.80

[Terpe]

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I've bookmarked this one.
I'm sure it'll come in handy

[bigmarco]

I think Du30 just shot himself in the foot this time Harry....
He just said Hitler killed 6 million innocent Jews and he`s criticized because he`s happy to kill 3 million criminals if necessary.
He`s treading on very thin ice!
I agree with his policies thus far but to be quite honest..He doesn't do him self any favours at times.

Must be honest I like him but this one made me cringe. :omg:

[London_Manila]

Where does he get the right to slaughter innocent people anyway :Erm:

I don't particularly like drugs or people that sell and use them but these people are still human beings
I would imagine most of these types have made bad life choices and hanged around with the wrong people
Duterte thinks he has the right to just to kill them off as if they are not even human :NoNo:

His remarks about Hitler and the Jews for me just shows his level of education
China has backed him up but no surprises there with their level of human rights atrocities
He even seems to be reveling in the fact that many people just see him as a mas murderer

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/583337/news/nation/jewish-groups-condemn-duterte-s-hitler-remarks

http://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/09/30/16/germany-dutertes-hitler-remarks-unacceptable

" i will be happy to slaughter them" what normal person makes remarks like that

[fred]

Misinterpreted again?? If thats true,who is responsible?

Metro Manila (CNN Philippines) — President Rodrigo Duterte was not likening himself to Adolf Hitler. The President was just responding to critics who compared him to the Nazi leader because of the thousands of alleged drug suspects killed under his watch. This is how Presidential Spokesman Ernesto Abella clarified Duterte's latest round of controversial remarks — now gaining worldwide attention again.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/10/01/Duterte-Hitler-remarks.html



Where does he get the right to slaughter innocent people anyway http://filipinaroses.com/images/smilies/Erm.gif

Innocent people? Where did he say he would do that??
Was he misinterpreted yet again somewhere?

[Arthur Little]

Misinterpreted again?? If thats true,who is responsible?

Metro Manila (CNN Philippines) — President Rodrigo Duterte was not likening himself to Adolf Hitler. The President was just responding to critics who compared him to the Nazi leader because of the thousands of alleged drug suspects killed under his watch. This is how Presidential Spokesman Ernesto Abella clarified Duterte's latest round of controversial remarks — now gaining worldwide attention again.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/10/01/Duterte-Hitler-remarks.html




Innocent people? Where did he say he would do that??
Was he misinterpreted yet again somewhere?

Tbh, Fred ... :anerikke: ... it is my true belief, DU30's critics - and other detractors - are reading far too much into (as well as being all too readily influenced by) the relentless stream of black propaganda churned out by the media :olddude: ... which, for the most part, is owned by the "Yellow Mafia", who are forever hell~bent on tarnishing his moral scruples - which they, themselves, have proved, time and again, to've been lacking in, throughout their lengthy tenures of office.

[Arthur Little]

Duterte really does need to keep his trap shut sometimes though. His recent outburst won't do him any favours and just fuels his detractors. Better off to say nothing than say some of the crap he comes out with IMO.


Must be honest I like him but this one made me cringe. :omg:

Sure, guys :icon_rolleyes: ... he does have a reputation for being outspoken.

But there again, if you refer to my previous post, BOTH of you will realise how (as per usual ) his latest remarks have been grossly exaggerated (even twisted! :cwm25:) in the press.


P.S. Keep up the good work Duterte!

Yes, :iagree: ... more power to his policies.

[grahamw48]

I still don't really know what to make of the bloke.... and how his actions may affect me and my family, so , just spectating, and certainly not going to fall out with anyone over it. :smile:

[London_Manila]

Misinterpreted again?? If thats true,who is responsible?

Metro Manila (CNN Philippines) — President Rodrigo Duterte was not likening himself to Adolf Hitler. The President was just responding to critics who compared him to the Nazi leader because of the thousands of alleged drug suspects killed under his watch. This is how Presidential Spokesman Ernesto Abella clarified Duterte's latest round of controversial remarks — now gaining worldwide attention again.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/10/01/Duterte-Hitler-remarks.html




Innocent people? Where did he say he would do that??
Was he misinterpreted yet again somewhere?

I am talking about the people being murdered every day by Duterte's gago police force

These victims are Innocent until proved guilty in a court of law with a fair trial
Not murdered by the Police or undercover cops just because some clown points the finger in their direction

Duterte can say anything and his misguided supporters will try and defend him

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/01/16/us-un-weigh-in-on-dutertes-hitler-remarks-call-them-troubling

Another day another stupid comment and he does have some comedy value now i will give you that :biggrin:

I doubt if we will have wait very long until another ridiculous comment from Duterte !

[fred]

These victims are Innocent until proved guilty in a court of law with a fair trial
Not murdered by the Police or undercover cops just because some clown points the finger in their direction

You have just done the very same thing you are accusing the PNP of doing....Accusations of murder with no evidence!!:icon_lol:
Not much use in a court room.
That said..Over here it has always been easy to get away with murder..The going rate just a few years ago was around 5k.. About 75 Quid...
Shabu dealers always had the most money to make use of that sordid murder racket and took 1000`s upon 1,000`s of lives either to wipe out competitors or to murder addicts that owed them too much as an example to their other debtors.. 1000`s also murdered by broke addicts extrajudicially via armed robberies,break ins and ride by shootings..
In our province,full face blacked out motorcycle helmets are banned.. There`s a good reason for that.

[London_Manila]

Tbh, Fred ... :anerikke: ... it is my true belief, DU30's critics - and other detractors - are reading far too much into (as well as being all too readily influenced by) the relentless stream of black propaganda churned out by the media :olddude: ... which, for the most part, is owned by the "Yellow Mafia", who are forever hell~bent on tarnishing his moral scruples - which they, themselves, have proved, time and again, to've been lacking in, throughout their lengthy tenures of office.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/02/16/duterte-apologizes-to-jews-on-hitler-reference

If it was just media hype then he would not spend a lot of time apologizing for his comments

[London_Manila]

You have just done the very same thing you are accusing the PNP of doing....Accusations of murder with no evidence!!:icon_lol:
Not much use in a court room.
That said..Over here it has always been easy to get away with murder..The going rate just a few years ago was around 5k.. About 75 Quid...
Shabu dealers always had the most money to make use of that sordid murder racket and took 1000`s upon 1,000`s of lives either to wipe out competitors or to murder addicts that owed them too much as an example to their other debtors.. 1000`s also murdered by broke addicts extrajudicially via armed robberies,break ins and ride by shootings..
In our province,full face blacked out motorcycle helmets are banned.. There`s a good reason for that.

Agreed these lowlifes do need removing from the streets its just i prefer justice rather than death squads

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/03/16/sc-justice-cites-law-nobody-shall-be-deprived-of-life-due-process

[London_Manila]

Bato lies through his teeth again :NoNo:

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/581530/news/nation/bato-maintains-no-such-thing-as-davao-death-squad

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/582797/news/nation/senate-probe-on-killings-reset-davao-police-linked-to-death-squad-invited

Now Duterte is president proving any case against his notorious Davao Death Squads
is going to be virtually impossible