indefinite leave to remain

[IainBusby]

i don't think the idea of doing some sort of test or course is a bad idea, many immigrants who have lived here for years and have made the uk thier home, but they cannot read, write or speak english.

if the person already has a understanding of english, then the life in the uk test can be taken to prove it, and as they need to be tested on some subject, why not the uk ?

for those who think they cannot pass the test, they can do an English course combining the citizenship info.

it's a waste of time for brits who speak english and maybe for those immigrants who can take the test straight away, but i'm sure it's not for those who are on the English and citizenship course, by the time they finish the course they will have a better understanding of english

I think they should scrap the current test and replace it with a test that concentrates more on the person's grasp of the English language both written and spoken. Then couple this with a series of questions based around what is seen as culturally acceptable and culturally unacceptable behaviour in this country.
Iain.

[andypaul]

I think they should scrap the current test and replace it with a test that concentrates more on the person's grasp of the English language both written and spoken. Then couple this with a series of questions based around what is seen as culturally acceptable and culturally unacceptable behaviour in this country.
Iain.

I agree on the do's and dont's side of things

Also without going overboard peoples basic rights.

that Women and Men have the vote aged over 18.

As i remeber there were issues in some areas where postal votes were "borrowed".

I do think we forget some of the people i speak to from various parts of the world. Many are very well educated and have great intelligence and common sense. Others are not so blessed with a great education and could easily once here not learn english and realise what is and isn't allowed here.

I know in many communities where Wifes come from abroad they are not aware of very basic rights we take for granted and if they do need help say with regards domestic abuse or just simply the right to work. How would they find out this infomation if they cant communicate in English.

But the testing of English i feel should be done before coming to the UK as many other countries do.

[PeterB]

... I know in many communities where Wifes come from abroad ....

I'm just wondering what your first language is!