Italy.....

[johncar54]

Has this post slipped away from a description of a trip to Italy to a line supporting 'its OK to take away the rights of a minority?' The blog refers to Roma people (Gypsies) being discriminated against. This does not equate with taking a firm line against terrorists and murders, and for that matter any convicted criminal.

I am British living in Spain, my wife is Filipino living in Spain, most pf the members here are minorities !

Of all people don't let us support such an obnoxious, thin end of the wedge, idea

[aromulus]

Has this post slipped away from a description of a trip to Italy to a line supporting 'its OK to take away the rights of a minority?' The blog refers to Roma people (Gypsies) being discriminated against. This does not equate with taking a firm line against terrorists and murders, and for that matter any convicted criminal.

I am British living in Spain, my wife is Filipino living in Spain, most pf the members here are minorities !

Of all people don't let us support such an obnoxious, thin end of the wedge, idea

For a start, Italy and Italians are in general not racists.
For millennia, starting with the Romans, we have welcomed foreigners, of all creeds and colours, into our midst, and sometime we had our butts bitten by them.
Slaves and foreign legionnaires were given the chance to become roman citizens, the formers by buying themselves out of bondage and the latters by serving in the roman army and manage to keep alive untile retirement.
Needless to say is that all citizens of the conquered territories were granted the citizenship automatically, after a few years.

Today is slightly different inasmuch as that immigration is out of control, here in the UK as in the rest of Europe.
Italy is plagued by the fact of being the first stepping stone for many bogus refugees from the Eastern European Nations and the whole of the North African coast, and all of them without identity documents of any sort.
More so is the argument of the Roma Gipsies. The vast majority of them are a nuisance, they forcibly beg in the street, they steal, they rob and rape. the crime situation in Rome has escalated because of them. And people like them.
So the idea of taking photos and fingerprints, to me, is sound. If they get caught doing anything criminal they can be sent back where they come from. Kids too, they eventually will grow to adults, prevention is better than cure.

I suppose that you are not aware that many schools in the UK, with the blessing of the H.O. and the police are routinely fingerprinting and taking DNA samples of our kids....
Without the knowledge or permission of the parents....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09...nting_allowed/

Italy is condemned by the liberal lobby of doing exactly what it is in its best interest.

Never mind all that.... It was a lovely exilirating holiday.

[joebloggs]

Has this post slipped away from a description of a trip to Italy to a line supporting 'its OK to take away the rights of a minority?' The blog refers to Roma people (Gypsies) being discriminated against. This does not equate with taking a firm line against terrorists and murders, and for that matter any convicted criminal.

I am British living in Spain, my wife is Filipino living in Spain, most pf the members here are minorities !

Of all people don't let us support such an obnoxious, thin end of the wedge, idea

'its OK to take away the rights of a minority?' most of them are illegal immigrants, so what rights do you give them ? same rights you have

the UK has an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrants, and some people say its nearer 1 million.

sure were all minorities in some ways ,but not a minority when it comes to being an illegal immigrant, who, for many came on a Visitor or student visa many years ago and never went back, knowing they were breaking immigration laws, but didn't give a damn, and making it more difficult for others to come, who wouldn't have over stayed.

anyway my point was, that Italy can round up people and take their finger prints and its ok, while this gov cannot get murders or terrorist deported because of their 'human rights' without never ending appeals.

dom asked why the polish were not treated the same way, maybe because many people now think that a uncontrolled border less european union is not working

and if your concerned about minorities, those on work permits who have worked here for 4 or 5 years could be sent back, as the uk tries to control immigration

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...Enough-say-MPs