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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Noooooooooooooooooooo ........and before the BIG game!
    A nice "no score" draw would be extremely welcome......

    Now.... If only there was a God up there......


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    Funny how people call on God in times of need, but will otherwise dismiss him as a figment of someone's imagination.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Funny how people call on God in times of need, but will otherwise dismiss him as a figment of someone's imagination.
    I don't.....I just blame you

    The referring to God in those times is due to conditional brainwashing when we are children and do not fully understand the reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    The referring to God in those times is due to conditional brainwashing when we are children and do not fully understand the reasoning.
    Correctamundo...........


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    I think the Philippines is almost an opposite to the UK in how many people go to church.
    I have only ever met one friend in the UK who went to church, and one family member too, my Dad.
    In all my years in England, I never had a conversation about the church, it was always something that was no longer important to British people, by and large.
    As we all know in the UK, the influence of the church has continued to wane.

    I see so many people go to church in Phils and I understand that it is still powerful there.
    (I was amused to see condoms being sold in all the pharmacies there, though.)

    If my wife ever wanted to go to church in the Phils or in the U.K., I would never stop her or ever say anything that would hurt her feelings on this issue.

    I see so many comments on this forum with "God bless", "pray" or other things relating to religion.
    I notice that it is almost always from Filipinas, which is understandable when you see how life is there.
    oh my father in law i called him hypocrite go to church every sunday after church pub pissing himself and all magic words come up to his mouth
    all things are possible!


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    Quote Originally Posted by vbkelly View Post
    oh my father in law i called him hypocrite go to church every sunday after church pub pissing himself and all magic words come up to his mouth

    Please, do not confuse religion with british cultural customs.....


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    I cant believe this to myself,when i start reading forum i saw many brit guys commenting about god or religion,till this thread come out,might some Filipina wont agree w/ me,or might quote me,but please we have our own opinion and its our right to say what we feel
    My parents and olds teach us to believe in God,that was very true,so all of my siblings are become loyal to God even my older sis become active on faith Christian church...but would u believe i never even visit church for ages,and so my youngest sister also active in christian church,
    Also wondering why if we need something or like applying for visa we always said "we pray for you""god bless you"keep praying"and if we get the visa we just said "god is so good" think about it ...true!!1 god has nothing to do w/ it,it was the eco who made it,also of failed or succeed,who do u think do it?God? Im getting far..

    So think about it,Isn't it the Old people and our parents said it to us(filipina) about God,my belief is just don't cheat people,don't make bad things or against the law ,then u will have happy life,just my own opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Funny how people call on God in times of need, but will otherwise dismiss him as a figment of someone's imagination.
    Very true... amazing how many 'non believers' beg for God's help when they're staring death in the face.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tomm View Post
    Very true... amazing how many 'non believers' beg for God's help when they're staring death in the face.
    I've already explained the psychology on that one.

    They know full well it is a completely meaningless comment...besides.....which God are they talking to anyway? Everyone see's God in a different way so that makes at least 6.5 Billion Gods
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    Quote Originally Posted by jedc143 View Post
    Also wondering why if we need something or like applying for visa we always said "we pray for you""god bless you"keep praying"and if we get the visa we just said "god is so good" think about it ...true!!1 god has nothing to do w/ it,it was the eco who made it,also of failed or succeed,who do u think do it?God? Im getting far..
    your right, not only do we see it on here, but i've seen many muslims saying i'll pray you get your visa, and pray for me. but if that helps some people then good for them, but good evidence will get you your visa.


    also i was watching a tv program the other night about 9/11 faker, a woman who came up with an amazing story how she survived it, but it was all a lie. but the program did interview, one of the only 19 people who survived, who was above where one of the planes hit the tower, and who got out b4 the tower collapsed.

    he said people kept saying to him, that god must have been looking after him, but after a while he got a bit angry, because he said some of those who died were better people than him, and why would god look after him, he said it was just random, that's why he survived.


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    At least God saved the concrete mosques and churches in the Tsunami
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    At least God saved the concrete mosques and churches in the Tsunami
    Probably because they were the only buildings built to withstand it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    Probably because they were the only buildings built to withstand it.
    Heretic
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    like me who believe in God I must admit I feel offended to people here the way they make fun out of God's name. Please be a little sensible to other members here like me as it is a delicate issue who have faith in God. I know everyone's are entitled to their own opinion and I respect you all for that.

    I suggest that just lock this thread. I hope you understand my views regarding to this issue. Thank you ver much.


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    Flo,
    This is Great Britain, it is where you have chosen to live.
    We have freedom of speech and most people that have posted on this subject have been VERY sensible with their comments.
    If this thread offends you, don't read it.
    When people in UK streets shout about religion in very loud voices (manic street preachers) other people have the right to ignore them if they want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Flo,
    This is Great Britain, it is where you have chosen to live.
    We have freedom of speech and most people that have posted on this subject have been VERY sensible with their comments.
    If this thread offends you, don't read it.
    When people in UK streets shout about religion in very loud voices (manic street preachers) other people have the right to ignore them if they want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Flo,

    If this thread offends you, don't read it.
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    I know my comment won't be popular here beside you are right this is Great Britain. I don't have a problem with people voicing out their opinion bec everyone has a freedom of speech I agree with that . Lastly, I do like reading individuals opinion bec it helps you learn or to understand more. But opinion and making fun out of something is totally diffrent thing that's all my point.

    I guess I will do your advice. This is the last comment I will make on this issue and I am not going to read it anymore. Thank you.


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    [QUOTE=flomike;87830] I didn't think anyone was making "fun".
    I thought the replies were deadly serious.

    Religion is deadly serious; that is why people kill each other all the time now, in the past and in the future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flomike View Post
    I know my comment won't be popular here beside you are right this is Great Britain. I don't have a problem with people voicing out their opinion bec everyone has a freedom of speech I agree with that . Lastly, I do like reading individuals opinion bec it helps you learn or to understand more. But opinion and making fun out of something is totally diffrent thing that's all my point.

    I guess I will do your advice. This is the last comment I will make on this issue and I am not going to read it anymore. Thank you.
    as said already, your in GB and your entitled to your opinion , and i don't think anyone intends to offend anyone , British humour sometimes can offend some people

    my problem is what religion does to children, the guilt and the burden put on a 6yr old, who has been asked to told to go to confession. .. kids let them grow up...


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post

    Religion is deadly serious; that is why people kill each other all the time now, in the past and in the future.
    You see, thats where people get confused, its people who kill people, not churches.

    I've said this before, if you "believe", thats great, if you choose not to believe, fine, but I wish the non-believers would stop talking rubbish and just put up or shut up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    .... its people who kill people, not churches..
    Unless you are in one during a major earthquake, which has happened on numerous occassions.....says it all really!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Unless you are in one during a major earthquake, which has happened on numerous occassions.....says it all really!
    So you think its God who created earthquakes? Come on, you cant have it both ways, your persistent blaming of ALL the worlds problems on God and/or religion is not very convincing, it just comes across as God-bashing at every opportunity, and its boring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    as said already, your in GB and your entitled to your opinion , and i don't think anyone intends to offend anyone , British humour sometimes can offend some people
    Funny how we wouldn't dare have a thread about any other religion, but its OK to bash Christianity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Funny how we wouldn't dare have a thread about any other religion, but its OK to bash Christianity.
    Maybe because we like to have an open mind......

    I am afraid that freedom of speech will not apply if one intends to bash/criticize other races, religions, sexual tendencies or preferences....

    Having to be politically correct, means that you have to keep your gob shut at all times or be careful who you speak to and what about....

    It was kind of refreshing to see that while I was in Italy, on vacation, most people, even coppers, were quite happy to say things which over here would have caused one to be executed at dawn....


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    Funny how we wouldn't dare have a thread about any other religion, but its OK to bash Christianity.
    It's not just Christianity, I feel the same about all religions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    So you think its God who created earthquakes?
    Who mentioned that? I never!! I made the CLEAR point that people die in church during earthqauke, and yet it is supposed to be a 'safe haven'. Earthquake causes are proven by science.


    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Funny how we wouldn't dare have a thread about any other religion, but its OK to bash Christianity.
    I've only been talking about a mythical entity/friend some folk call God, never related it to any name religeon.

    Keep up or you'll be on detention!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flomike View Post
    I know my comment won't be popular here beside you are right this is Great Britain. I don't have a problem with people voicing out their opinion bec everyone has a freedom of speech I agree with that . Lastly, I do like reading individuals opinion bec it helps you learn or to understand more. But opinion and making fun out of something is totally diffrent thing that's all my point.

    I guess I will do your advice. This is the last comment I will make on this issue and I am not going to read it anymore. Thank you.
    respect to you, your the only one who has decided to say anything about us Atheist, well rob has joined you now , i'm not against anything, as long as it doesn't effect me, or they don't knock on my door, religion can be a good thing for some people, and also a bad thing .. for me, its not been a good thing.. 3 religions were in my life when i was young, 2 forced on me, my opinion, and i'm entitled to it, as you are entitled to yours

    rob i'm against all religions, if your born in the north of the phils your likely to be 'forced' into being a catholic, if born in the south your likely to be 'forced' into being a muslim.. what choice does a baby or child have, but the one forced on them by their culture and parents.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    if your born in the north of the phils your likely to be 'forced' into being a catholic, if born in the south your likely to be 'forced' into being a muslim..
    ...and if your born in Wales, you'll be forever ridiculed


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    Faith and religion are two different things. People have faith in different things, religions like Christianity, Muslim, etc, are just 'clubs' folk join who believe others have the same faith, but they don't, only similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    ...if born in the south your likely to be 'forced' into being a muslim..
    Really? I wonder where all those people come from who fill the new Cathedral here in Tagum, six services every Sunday. I estimate that it seats about 1500, and there are often lots of people left to stand.

    Our local church is full for two services, seating about 800. ... and there are many more churches in, and around, the town.


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