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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    If the church is open to everybody why are they locked most of the time.
    Because scousers nick the shiny stuff
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    First of all Im not a Catholic. Im a Protestant. Me personally I don't believe in religion bec religion won't make you a better person or better husband/wife. To filipinos here saying that they don't see any problem their partner doesn't believe in GOD (yes, bec you chose them to be your partner despite of your different belief bec they said filipinos are good in learning to adapt). How about your children one day saying to you Mum I don't believe in GOD bec there no such thing as GOD. hope you can still adapt.

    Me who has a strong belief in the existence of GOD I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am bec I know I will never be happy. I don't want to live my life with guilt conscience sharing my life with different faith as I am.

    To all the filipinos here I really adore your stand about it. I hope and pray that GOD will guide you and give you strength to carry on. Pagpalain nawa kayo

    To all Brits here I hope you don't get me wrong on this topic. I do respect your stand on this issue I know this is a no-win situation. I respect everyone's beliefs

    Peace everyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewiz View Post
    How about your children one day saying to you Mum I don't believe in GOD bec there no such thing as GOD. hope you can still adapt.

    Me who has a strong belief in the existence of GOD I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am bec I know I will never be happy. I don't want to live my life with guilt conscience sharing my life with different faith as I am.
    if my kids said that, it would not bother me one bit, i'll let them find their own way.. i don't think you should force your religion on your kids.

    me and the misses don't have a problem, because i still have morals that i live by, maybe more so than many church-goers, and having a 'faith' would not make me a better person than i am already.

    so i respect your faith, but in my eyes, your no worse or better person than me because of it, i just don't like seeing it forced on kids .

    as my misses told me today, 'when you become catholic, your one for life' or

    and peace to you


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewiz View Post
    Me who has a strong belief in the existence of GOD I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am bec I know I will never be happy. I don't want to live my life with guilt conscience sharing my life with different faith as I am.
    You'll never know until you get there

    Peace
    Don't make promises when you are in JOY. Don't reply when you are SAD.
    Don't take decisions when you are ANGRY. Think twice, Act wise. BE happy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurokuk View Post
    You'll never know until you get there

    Peace

    I will never get there


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesewiz View Post
    Me who has a strong belief in the existence of GOD I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am bec I know I will never be happy. I don't want to live my life with guilt conscience sharing my life with different faith as I am.

    To all the filipinos here I really adore your stand about it. I hope and pray that GOD will guide you and give you strength to carry on. Pagpalain nawa kayo

    Peace everyone.
    Please don't quote "Peace everyone" when you have inflexibility in your attitude to other people.
    You appear to be intolerant of other peoples' beliefs.
    This is such a lack of respect for others.
    This is one of the main reasons that the majority of people in the UK have turned away from religion.

    Peace: "freedom from conflict or disagreement among people or groups of people"

    In your first post you wrote:
    " I don't condemed people being Atheist"
    then you wrote:
    "I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am"

    Now, how do you equate those two comments?


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    In your first post you wrote:
    " I don't condemed people being Atheist"
    then you wrote:
    "I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am"

    Now, how do you equate those two comments?
    You're suggesting that by not living with them, Cheezewhiz is condemning the athiests?

    As I see it, everyone is free to adopt their own beliefs (or non-beliefs), but I would not choose to marry someone whose beliefs were not similar to my own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Please don't quote "Peace everyone" when you have inflexibility in your attitude to other people.
    You appear to be intolerant of other peoples' beliefs.
    This is such a lack of respect for others.
    This is one of the main reasons that the majority of people in the UK have turned away from religion.

    Peace: "freedom from conflict or disagreement among people or groups of people"

    In your first post you wrote:
    " I don't condemed people being Atheist"
    then you wrote:
    "I can't imagine myself living with someone who doesn't share the same belief as I am"

    Now, how do you equate those two comments?
    what's wrong with that statement? I can't see any problem with that? as a Christian who believes with the existence of GOD marrying or living with someone who doesn't share same belief as me won't work and by saying that I am not condeming any atheist. And a few people here trying to say that people who believe in imaginary thing consider as MAD ( do you think that's way of condeming people with faith in GOD?)

    Then you have a problem with me saying PEACE EVERYONE. In what way this words are offensive to people in UK and disrespectful?

    I am not in any way trying to convert you to christianity bec I respect you as atheist. Peace be with you!


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    On a lighter note, have you heard about the dyslexic atheist who doesn't believe in dog


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    Why so much concentration by the church on the Afterlife? What about the Beforelife as they are exactly the same place! Remember how good that was? Nope. Didn't think so, but that is where you go back to.

    Did you know that on average only about 5% of fertilized human eggs make it to become a teengaer.....that abortion rate by God beats anything any doctor could manage.

    Most folk who argue the existence of a mytical figure have no idea about the proof that matters, radioactive isotopes, neutrino's, quarks, siRNA, proteins, gamma rays, speed of light, etc. Not one religeous figure has explained why they need to exist if we have a God.

    ....and where did God come from...you can't answer that unless you prove infinity exists.....and if he/she/it does exist....who does he/she/it worship? Most religous folk ignore so many questions they can't answer, rather than educating themselves.

    You can have faith & belief, with out calling it a God.
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    i agree with you scouser Keith.

    the song 'god only knows' by Manc band James, says it all.. (even the mother in law liked it )

    http://www.lyricstime.com/james-god-...ws-lyrics.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    i agree with you scouser Keith.
    Noooooooooooooooooooo ........and before the BIG game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Noooooooooooooooooooo ........and before the BIG game!
    A nice "no score" draw would be extremely welcome......

    Now.... If only there was a God up there......


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    like me who believe in God I must admit I feel offended to people here the way they make fun out of God's name. Please be a little sensible to other members here like me as it is a delicate issue who have faith in God. I know everyone's are entitled to their own opinion and I respect you all for that.

    I suggest that just lock this thread. I hope you understand my views regarding to this issue. Thank you ver much.


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    Funny how people call on God in times of need, but will otherwise dismiss him as a figment of someone's imagination.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Funny how people call on God in times of need, but will otherwise dismiss him as a figment of someone's imagination.
    I don't.....I just blame you

    The referring to God in those times is due to conditional brainwashing when we are children and do not fully understand the reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    The referring to God in those times is due to conditional brainwashing when we are children and do not fully understand the reasoning.
    Correctamundo...........


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Funny how people call on God in times of need, but will otherwise dismiss him as a figment of someone's imagination.
    Very true... amazing how many 'non believers' beg for God's help when they're staring death in the face.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tomm View Post
    Very true... amazing how many 'non believers' beg for God's help when they're staring death in the face.
    I've already explained the psychology on that one.

    They know full well it is a completely meaningless comment...besides.....which God are they talking to anyway? Everyone see's God in a different way so that makes at least 6.5 Billion Gods
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    I cant believe this to myself,when i start reading forum i saw many brit guys commenting about god or religion,till this thread come out,might some Filipina wont agree w/ me,or might quote me,but please we have our own opinion and its our right to say what we feel
    My parents and olds teach us to believe in God,that was very true,so all of my siblings are become loyal to God even my older sis become active on faith Christian church...but would u believe i never even visit church for ages,and so my youngest sister also active in christian church,
    Also wondering why if we need something or like applying for visa we always said "we pray for you""god bless you"keep praying"and if we get the visa we just said "god is so good" think about it ...true!!1 god has nothing to do w/ it,it was the eco who made it,also of failed or succeed,who do u think do it?God? Im getting far..

    So think about it,Isn't it the Old people and our parents said it to us(filipina) about God,my belief is just don't cheat people,don't make bad things or against the law ,then u will have happy life,just my own opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by jedc143 View Post
    Also wondering why if we need something or like applying for visa we always said "we pray for you""god bless you"keep praying"and if we get the visa we just said "god is so good" think about it ...true!!1 god has nothing to do w/ it,it was the eco who made it,also of failed or succeed,who do u think do it?God? Im getting far..
    your right, not only do we see it on here, but i've seen many muslims saying i'll pray you get your visa, and pray for me. but if that helps some people then good for them, but good evidence will get you your visa.


    also i was watching a tv program the other night about 9/11 faker, a woman who came up with an amazing story how she survived it, but it was all a lie. but the program did interview, one of the only 19 people who survived, who was above where one of the planes hit the tower, and who got out b4 the tower collapsed.

    he said people kept saying to him, that god must have been looking after him, but after a while he got a bit angry, because he said some of those who died were better people than him, and why would god look after him, he said it was just random, that's why he survived.


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    At least God saved the concrete mosques and churches in the Tsunami
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    At least God saved the concrete mosques and churches in the Tsunami
    Probably because they were the only buildings built to withstand it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    Probably because they were the only buildings built to withstand it.
    Heretic
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    Flo,
    This is Great Britain, it is where you have chosen to live.
    We have freedom of speech and most people that have posted on this subject have been VERY sensible with their comments.
    If this thread offends you, don't read it.
    When people in UK streets shout about religion in very loud voices (manic street preachers) other people have the right to ignore them if they want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Flo,
    This is Great Britain, it is where you have chosen to live.
    We have freedom of speech and most people that have posted on this subject have been VERY sensible with their comments.
    If this thread offends you, don't read it.
    When people in UK streets shout about religion in very loud voices (manic street preachers) other people have the right to ignore them if they want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Flo,

    If this thread offends you, don't read it.
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    I know my comment won't be popular here beside you are right this is Great Britain. I don't have a problem with people voicing out their opinion bec everyone has a freedom of speech I agree with that . Lastly, I do like reading individuals opinion bec it helps you learn or to understand more. But opinion and making fun out of something is totally diffrent thing that's all my point.

    I guess I will do your advice. This is the last comment I will make on this issue and I am not going to read it anymore. Thank you.


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    [QUOTE=flomike;87830] I didn't think anyone was making "fun".
    I thought the replies were deadly serious.

    Religion is deadly serious; that is why people kill each other all the time now, in the past and in the future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post

    Religion is deadly serious; that is why people kill each other all the time now, in the past and in the future.
    You see, thats where people get confused, its people who kill people, not churches.

    I've said this before, if you "believe", thats great, if you choose not to believe, fine, but I wish the non-believers would stop talking rubbish and just put up or shut up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    .... its people who kill people, not churches..
    Unless you are in one during a major earthquake, which has happened on numerous occassions.....says it all really!
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