actually vbkelly my hubby's children is 11 all together.and i dont know about what happened to the others.and i only meet this 2.his daughter age 20 and his son aged 22.his daughter is mal educated,swearing to his dad,if my hubby didnt give her some money.his son is the same,wants to borrow some money but didnt pay his dad back,shouting to his dad and swearing also.my hubby is 60 y/o.i think that is the way or the attitude of the english young people.