it doesn't matter if they are friends of mine they are breaking the lawOriginally Posted by anview
it doesn't matter if they are friends of mine they are breaking the law
all things are possible!
I have to say guys that there is a lot of poppy cock on this thread!!
Our forebears broke all sorts of laws to win the freedoms that are now being eroded bad and unjust laws always require brave souls to challenge them and that's one of the rights and responsibilities that goes with living in a free country.
In fact every citizen in my view has the right to say NO you may have to take the sanctions that that entails but the alternative is to wake up one day and find you have no rights at all
Joe your point on Europe and unfair visa fees is well made but the responsibility to challenge it lies with one of us that feels strongly enough to do so otherwise it just goes on.
People who are working their butts off abroad to support their loved ones who happen to live in economically deprived areas of the world regardless of their visa or lack of it "ARE NOT CRIMINALS OR ROBBERS" we sent them to Australia already
We didn't fill out many visa apps when we controlled a third of the world and the sun didn't set so I for one think that any moral high ground here is hypocritical in the extreme and the Filipino response here might better be directed at the corrupt lawbreakers,often in positions of trust, in your motherland than to your fellow countrymen who's aspirations and needs you should all understand and empathise with
Rant Over
I think I,ll have a beer now
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So glad you are not my..... "friend" !!
Geez...It does`nt bare thinking about!!
Personally if the only crime was overstaying a visa, I would mind my own business.
I returned to this country in 2002, and had to apply for a spouse visa for my late wife.
I could claim nothing, my wife could claim nothing. Yet people coming in on the back of a truck got five star treatment.
I'm now waiting for my wifes visa to be processed, and to be honest, it is one of the most difficult times of my life, why it takes so long in Manila is debateable, but it is certainly stressful.
I can understand why some people would take the "easy" way out.
Maybe the system should be levelled out a bit, make it easier for genuine applicants, and harder for the truck hikers.
Maybe if they spent less energy on masking it so hard for genuine cases, they would have more time to deal with the abusers.
Maybe the system is basically flawed if it is easier and better to break the law than abide by it.
As for the person using resources I pay for, they are not likely to use as much as other scammers legally here, as they would rather keep a low profile.
I would rather see the teenage mothers-to-be-on-benefits etc dealt with.
I don't think you would call a detention centre 5 star
but I think many when caught are let go, and told to report back to immigration weekly, many vanish thou, the thing is now with the clamp down on illegal workers (fines or even prison for employers who employ illegal immigrants), the only work they will get will be really low pay, as the employer ways up the risks of getting fined £10,000 for each illegal immigrant employed, the other option if they cannot find employment is to turn to crime..
Or traffic wardens in London......the other option if they cannot find employment is to turn to crime
Or security staff at some goverment building....
Or........
The incident I particularly remember are the ones that hid in a army truck carrying classified goods. They were given thorough health checks and accomdated in a hotel. Maybe a detention centre followed, but they were certainly well treated on their arrival.
but I think many when caught are let go, and told to report back to immigration weekly, many vanish thou, the thing is now with the clamp down on illegal workers (fines or even prison for employers who employ illegal immigrants), the only work they will get will be really low pay, as the employer ways up the risks of getting fined £10,000 for each illegal immigrant employed, the other option if they cannot find employment is to turn to crime
A legal arrival at hellrow is sometimes kept there for the best part of a day with xrays and questions.
As for the detention centres, I wonder how their care there compares with what they would have got where they left from? A roof, food, medical care is a heck of a lot more than many countries peoples have.
As one who is about to face the agonies/uncertainties of the unjustifiably-'long wait' entailed by those applying legally for a spousal visa on behalf of their loved one, I fully concur with the sentiments expressed by Sangoma. It's high time resources were deployed in tightening up a System that allows would-be terrorists, suicide bombers and the like to slip through the net, simply because they are well educated (witness the perpetrators of the incident at Glasgow Airport ... they came here as qualified doctors!!) and can support themselves financially. Something's far wrong somewhere, surely!
Well, if I were to get 40k resettlement grant from the government, I would happily go and live in da Phills....
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