Different subject Pennybarry they are claim frauds not overstayersOriginally Posted by pennybarry
I know some here that works cash on hand (part time) and they are receiving benefits from government because they declrared they are jobless with kids.
I work fulltime and at the end of the week I have 80£ deductions from my wages. I am thinking if this deductions will help those benefits claimants, then this must be very unfair as I have hard day everyday
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To many hardworking Indigeous Brits and those orignaly from abroad on a Visa both are robbing resources that should be going to those that follow the Law of the land.
For example many overstayers or those who entered ilegally use the A and E in busier hospitals as their GP as they know they will not be asked to many questions.
I didn't read that in a paper or hear it off a mate of a mate, I have spent a few hours watching the goings on in several A and E receptions in central London. Due to a work project and customer visits..
It frustrates both medical and admin staff but know its not worth making a fuss.
I saw examples myself while there of people it was plain to see giving fake addresses and details in general. The staff even appeared to have addresses they use when its clear the person is too confused (due to not being well enough) to fib
Funnily enough i saw tourists/workers from EU countries who were being admitted who were aplogetic and wondering if they needed to pay or show details.
I noticed while there and had it confirmed to me by two clerks that many of those not entitled to care would come in big waves when they had busy periods to ensure they either went unnoticed or knew the admin staff were over stretched. Even though the staff admitted there was little they could do.
The biggest issue they had was with people releasing themselves in a hurry once the intial care or consultation was given. As they know as shown on posters that if you need aftercare hospitals may check up on your rights to it.
Some Im told would then have to be prescribed expensive medcines which they would just pay the prescription fee.
while we should never deny health care to any and no Doctor or nurse I met would dream of it.
They should not be taking them resources from those who have earned them imo.
well Keith maybe your views would change, when you have to go by the rules and thank yourself lucky, you've not had to pay £4,000 for visa fees like i have had to, then read on other forums what illegal immigrants will do to stay and prevent their removal from the uk. some have no intention of going back, some on the student visas have never attended a class, fake unis and collages, marrying eastern Europeans and other non uk Europeans to stay here.
some illegal immigrants come here hoping their will be an amnesty for the 500,000+ who are illegally here. maybe you've not heard of the 10yr or 14yr rule, for those here for 14 years lawfully or unlawfully without Removal Directions or a Deportation Order having been issued against you during that time, you may be able to apply for indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom under the long residence rule.
when a person applies for a student or visitor visa, they agree by signing the visa app form, they will leave the country before their visa expires, those who don't are not 'overstayers' but have broken the law and here Illegally.
just open your eyes, and see what's going on around you
Thanks Joe and Andy I do understand your views and you are of course entitled to them, Its clearly an emotive subject and I doubt any amount of "money" paid will change mine as it springs from a position ,formulated over long years that the developed countries have a vast ocean of "karma" to expiate from our imperialist past.
I got a nice picture of this here yesterday in the Santa Nino Basilique whilst looking at the series of portraits of the Spanish bringing "civilisation" to the natives, having set the standard to aspire to so many years ago it comes as no surprise to me that so many people would wish to come to the cradle of culture and experience the delights of Britain (so clearly expounded here on the forum) In fact I have done my best to explain to my beloved that the UK is not the land of milk and honey she has been led to believe.
Having already made various unanswered points I see no purpose in repetition.
No I hadn't heard of that, but my logical mind jumps to the conclusion that forgiveness for past "wickedness" is therefor embodied in our laws, if you can get away with it for long enough
maybe you've not heard of the 10yr or 14yr rule, for those here for 14 years lawfully or unlawfully without Removal Directions or a Deportation Order having been issued against you during that time, you may be able to apply for indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom under the long residence rule.
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