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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    No one has pointed out that this event is probably the best scientific research on evolution & cultural change.

    Taking the age range 25-28, the majority of those below thought the prank was funny, the majority of those over thought it wasn't. A complete culture change, and started 25-28 years ago.

    It will take that and more to reverse if.....if ever....
    True and many even if they thought it was not funny, many thought the two indivuals had the "Right to say what they like".


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    Quote Originally Posted by andypaul View Post
    True and many even if they thought it was not funny, many thought the two indivuals had the "Right to say what they like".
    its the bbc they have no right?

    but whats the big deal its like over a week before anyone said anything about it?

    i like there tv shows,but the radio shows i never really liked.

    its not there reponsibility to what gets put on air?
    whoever allowed it be played on air should get the sack,but whoever does will walk into another job within a week so whats the point?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    its the bbc they have no right?

    but whats the big deal its like over a week before anyone said anything about it?

    i like there tv shows,but the radio shows i never really liked.

    its not there reponsibility to what gets put on air?
    whoever allowed it be played on air should get the sack,but whoever does will walk into another job within a week so whats the point?

    The week thing as well as the stiring up by the DM i bet was also due to iplayer or podcasts.

    Who actually watches or listens to programes on the intial airing anymore?

    I think the fact they made the phone calls in the first place which if i made to you for example you could have me nicked for due to the content. if it had never been aired then it is still an offence.

    The broadcasting of the recording is a seperate issue. If woss or brand wanted it stopped im sure they could of. You telling me Woss on 6 million a year doesn't have the clout to do such things?

    If they had not done it in the first place they would not have had a problem.

    The whats the point is exactly why something should be done. As thats the malise which means no one takes issue with people abusing others or breaking petty laws so they push it a little more and more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    i like there tv shows,but the radio shows i never really liked.
    That's an irrelevant point these days, as folk can watch/listen to any past radio/tv show now when they want, and not just at the time it first goes out.

    And the other thing, they received 2 complaints on the night, it takes about 2-3 months for those complaints to be fully reviewed. I know, I got British Gas to change their ad earlier in the year
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    From the very little they've shown on TV of the actual offending broadcast. it just looks soooooo childish with 2 grown men acting like 10 year olds who've dialled 999 and claimed their school is on fire.

    If Brand had slept with Sach's granddaughter (who's 23) then it's just fact. If she'd been 8 or 9 then it would have been another matter.

    Usually I find Brand rather irritating and Woss has just become self indulgent. I usually watch his chat show (if I can stay awake that late) and I find his unneccessary swearing annoying, rather like Gordon Ramsey. I'm no prude or Mary Whitehouse, but does bad language really have a place on national broadcasting? 5 or 10 years ago it was unheard of.
    Even comedy programmes such as Harry Enfield which could have been watched by the whole family 5 years ago is now unnecessarily smutty.

    It's been said that broadcasting is trying to be "edgy", but does "edgy" just mean "gutteral"?
    I never listen to Radio 2 as it's always been an old persons station to me, but surely by them having these "edgy" presenters they will lose their target audience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavanddal View Post
    I never listen to Radio 2 as it's always been an old persons station to me, but surely by them having these "edgy" presenters they will lose their target audience.
    I don't think Radio 2 can be labelled an Old Persons Station, its changed a hell of a lot in the last 10 years to the point it has more listeners than Radio 1. The whole BBC radio network is suffering an identity crisis - Radio 1 are going for ever younger listeners, likewise Radio 2 are aiming for 25 - 40, the rest, well, theres always Radio 3 or Radio 4. Its a bit odd that Bwand is on R2 in the first place, his humour appeals to younger people Keith has talked about - 29 ish and under. He should have been on Radio 1.

    I'd say that if there had been tighter editorial controls at Radio 2, none of this would have happened. The production team behind that show were as guilty as Bwand and Woss, and while Lesley Douglas (R2 Controller) has done many good things at Radio 2, she quite rightly took some of the blame and resigned.

    Oh, I like the bit about "Right to say what they like". As the Manic Street Preachers once said "Freedom of Speech Won't Feed my Children", read the lyrics to that song, you'll realise how far wedged up our own backsides we are in the UK.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    I don't think Radio 2 can be labelled an Old Persons Station, its changed a hell of a lot in the last 10 years to the point it has more listeners than Radio 1. The whole BBC radio network is suffering an identity crisis - Radio 1 are going for ever younger listeners, likewise Radio 2 are aiming for 25 - 40, the rest, well, theres always Radio 3 or Radio 4.
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    Radio 2 still has the same presenters I remember my mother listening to when I was a kid! i.e. Wogan. So Rob at 47, I'm too old even to listen to Radio 2!
    Radio 2 may have more listeners than Radio 1 but then we're told that there's more old people alive now then ever before so that supports my statement!

    Personally I rarely listen to the radio but if I do I listen to Radio 1 until I'm bored with the same chart songs being repeated. I can't stand local radio cos of the inane adverts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavanddal View Post
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    Radio 2 still has the same presenters I remember my mother listening to when I was a kid! i.e. Wogan. So Rob at 47, I'm too old even to listen to Radio 2!
    Radio 2 may have more listeners than Radio 1 but then we're told that there's more old people alive now then ever before so that supports my statement!

    Personally I rarely listen to the radio but if I do I listen to Radio 1 until I'm bored with the same chart songs being repeated. I can't stand local radio cos of the inane adverts.
    Dont you get a free Cardigan when you listen to Radio 2?

    A bit chilly at the moment might tune in for a few mintues


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavanddal View Post
    From the very little they've shown on TV of the actual offending broadcast. it just looks soooooo childish with 2 grown men acting like 10 year olds who've dialled 999 and claimed their school is on fire.

    Usually I find Brand rather irritating and Woss has just become self indulgent. I usually watch his chat show (if I can stay awake that late) and I find his unneccessary swearing annoying, rather like Gordon Ramsey. I'm no prude or Mary Whitehouse, but does bad language really have a place on national broadcasting? 5 or 10 years ago it was unheard of.
    Even comedy programmes such as Harry Enfield which could have been watched by the whole family 5 years ago is now unnecessarily smutty.

    It's been said that broadcasting is trying to be "edgy", but does "edgy" just mean "gutteral"?
    I never listen to Radio 2 as it's always been an old persons station to me, but surely by them having these "edgy" presenters they will lose their target audience.
    Excellent points - it's just so unnecessary and takes much away from what we should be enjoying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by andypaul View Post
    True and many even if they thought it was not funny, many thought the two indivuals had the "Right to say what they like".
    Well that is freaky.....A Sunday paper just published virtually the same results, with the cut-off being 29! ......so it's all Thatchers fault
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Well that is freaky.....A Sunday paper just published virtually the same results, with the cut-off being 29! ......so it's all Thatchers fault
    Its the lack of calcium


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