Wonathan Woss

[Gavanddal]

From the very little they've shown on TV of the actual offending broadcast. it just looks soooooo childish with 2 grown men acting like 10 year olds who've dialled 999 and claimed their school is on fire.

If Brand had slept with Sach's granddaughter (who's 23) then it's just fact. If she'd been 8 or 9 then it would have been another matter.

Usually I find Brand rather irritating and Woss has just become self indulgent. I usually watch his chat show (if I can stay awake that late) and I find his unneccessary swearing annoying, rather like Gordon Ramsey. I'm no prude or Mary Whitehouse, but does bad language really have a place on national broadcasting? 5 or 10 years ago it was unheard of.
Even comedy programmes such as Harry Enfield which could have been watched by the whole family 5 years ago is now unnecessarily smutty.

It's been said that broadcasting is trying to be "edgy", but does "edgy" just mean "gutteral"?
I never listen to Radio 2 as it's always been an old persons station to me, but surely by them having these "edgy" presenters they will lose their target audience.

[walesrob]

I never listen to Radio 2 as it's always been an old persons station to me, but surely by them having these "edgy" presenters they will lose their target audience.

I don't think Radio 2 can be labelled an Old Persons Station, its changed a hell of a lot in the last 10 years to the point it has more listeners than Radio 1. The whole BBC radio network is suffering an identity crisis - Radio 1 are going for ever younger listeners, likewise Radio 2 are aiming for 25 - 40, the rest, well, theres always Radio 3 or Radio 4. Its a bit odd that Bwand is on R2 in the first place, his humour appeals to younger people Keith has talked about - 29 ish and under. He should have been on Radio 1.

I'd say that if there had been tighter editorial controls at Radio 2, none of this would have happened. The production team behind that show were as guilty as Bwand and Woss, and while Lesley Douglas (R2 Controller) has done many good things at Radio 2, she quite rightly took some of the blame and resigned.

Oh, I like the bit about "Right to say what they like". As the Manic Street Preachers once said "Freedom of Speech Won't Feed my Children", read the lyrics to that song, you'll realise how far wedged up our own backsides we are in the UK.

[Gavanddal]

I don't think Radio 2 can be labelled an Old Persons Station, its changed a hell of a lot in the last 10 years to the point it has more listeners than Radio 1. The whole BBC radio network is suffering an identity crisis - Radio 1 are going for ever younger listeners, likewise Radio 2 are aiming for 25 - 40, the rest, well, theres always Radio 3 or Radio 4.

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Radio 2 still has the same presenters I remember my mother listening to when I was a kid! i.e. Wogan. So Rob at 47, I'm too old even to listen to Radio 2!
Radio 2 may have more listeners than Radio 1 but then we're told that there's more old people alive now then ever before so that supports my statement!

Personally I rarely listen to the radio but if I do I listen to Radio 1 until I'm bored with the same chart songs being repeated. I can't stand local radio cos of the inane adverts.

[andypaul]

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Radio 2 still has the same presenters I remember my mother listening to when I was a kid! i.e. Wogan. So Rob at 47, I'm too old even to listen to Radio 2!
Radio 2 may have more listeners than Radio 1 but then we're told that there's more old people alive now then ever before so that supports my statement!

Personally I rarely listen to the radio but if I do I listen to Radio 1 until I'm bored with the same chart songs being repeated. I can't stand local radio cos of the inane adverts.

Dont you get a free Cardigan when you listen to Radio 2?

A bit chilly at the moment might tune in for a few mintues

[Piamed]

From the very little they've shown on TV of the actual offending broadcast. it just looks soooooo childish with 2 grown men acting like 10 year olds who've dialled 999 and claimed their school is on fire.

Usually I find Brand rather irritating and Woss has just become self indulgent. I usually watch his chat show (if I can stay awake that late) and I find his unneccessary swearing annoying, rather like Gordon Ramsey. I'm no prude or Mary Whitehouse, but does bad language really have a place on national broadcasting? 5 or 10 years ago it was unheard of.
Even comedy programmes such as Harry Enfield which could have been watched by the whole family 5 years ago is now unnecessarily smutty.

It's been said that broadcasting is trying to be "edgy", but does "edgy" just mean "gutteral"?
I never listen to Radio 2 as it's always been an old persons station to me, but surely by them having these "edgy" presenters they will lose their target audience.

Excellent points - it's just so unnecessary and takes much away from what we should be enjoying!