getting a foreign worker out of Singapore!

[KeithD]

My wife's just read this and confirmed it.

She can ask for permission to leave to marry, but would have to return to complete the contract, and as she's had her 2 weeks, probably not. I've been told if she gets black marked by Singapore immigration she won't be able to transit through either.

Are her employers Chinese or Western? If the former, she's probably got no chance of an early release.

My mates just had to wait 12 months for a Singapore contract to finish, and he could only see his girl for two Sunday's while he was there, but they are both alive, and in the Philppines now after an 18 month long distance relationship. They're just starting the visa process now.

Thing is, the contract is part of the package with the girl, you must have known that before getting serious, so you have to deal with it the same as the rest of us have had too in the past.

In 8 months you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

(PS. I'm sure seeing her only twice in 2 weeks though is worth the effort? )

[easygoingman]

My wife's just read this and confirmed it.

She can ask for permission to leave to marry, but would have to return to complete the contract, and as she's had her 2 weeks, probably not. I've been told if she gets black marked by Singapore immigration she won't be able to transit through either.

Are her employers Chinese or Western? If the former, she's probably got no chance of an early release.

My mates just had to wait 12 months for a Singapore contract to finish, and he could only see his girl for two Sunday's while he was there, but they are both alive, and in the Philppines now after an 18 month long distance relationship. They're just starting the visa process now.

Thing is, the contract is part of the package with the girl, you must have known that before getting serious, so you have to deal with it the same as the rest of us have had too in the past.

In 8 months you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.

(PS. I'm sure seeing her only twice in 2 weeks though is worth the effort? )

Hi
I knew my fiancee was in a contract and I had asked her about that. She has been telling me for 5 months that she will leave early so we can marry and the Agency told her it would be ok.

There's no way I'd spend £800 to see her for one day. I've been to Singapore once and have no intention of helping such a dicatorship with any more of my money.

Hey if they won't let her leave then I'll tell her exactly what to do:
nothing, she goes out every day wherever she likes, sits in her room and watches TV and refuses to work until the sack her. I could pay her 17x what she earns in Singapore...

[baboyako]

the whole world (outside the UK) works with bribes, fixers & haggling.

'going on strike' is only likely to get her a beating

I'd suggest you talk to a few people (they will tend to be hanging outside government offices)..

[A_flyer]

the whole world (outside the UK) works with bribes, fixers & haggling.

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I think you have to learn more what the world is...

[KeithD]

Hi
I knew my fiancee was in a contract and I had asked her about that. She has been telling me for 5 months that she will leave early so we can marry and the Agency told her it would be ok.

There's no way I'd spend £800 to see her for one day. I've been to Singapore once and have no intention of helping such a dicatorship with any more of my money.

Hey if they won't let her leave then I'll tell her exactly what to do:
nothing, she goes out every day wherever she likes, sits in her room and watches TV and refuses to work until the sack her. I could pay her 17x what she earns in Singapore...

Dicatorship Singapore is a prime example of how a country should be run.

It's a contract, you sign one in football, you can't get out without the employer agreeing, or you pay the extra, same with any contract, broadband, mobile, etc, this works the same in all civilised society.

You could pay her 17X, but she went to Singapore to earn more money than she would in the Phil, and at that point she was very happy with it and the contract she agreed to.......then she met you...but the basic circumstances are exactly the same, the main problem is your viewpoint of the whole thing, nothing else.

If you think she should be paid 17X more, then that is what you send her, then she's getting the correct wage you want her to have, and she isn't working for peanuts then is she?

Welcome to the real world. Having a Filipino as a lover is not something you can just run into, grab the girl and go off an be happily married, you hit many hurdles along the way......and of you are going to marry in the Phil, boy you'll meet some paperwork, plenty of red tape, tons of problems.....the fun is just starting.

[easygoingman]

Dicatorship Singapore is a prime example of how a country should be run.

It's a contract, you sign one in football, you can't get out without the employer agreeing, or you pay the extra, same with any contract, broadband, mobile, etc, this works the same in all civilised society.

You could pay her 17X, but she went to Singapore to earn more money than she would in the Phil, and at that point she was very happy with it and the contract she agreed to.......then she met you...but the basic circumstances are exactly the same, the main problem is your viewpoint of the whole thing, nothing else.

If you think she should be paid 17X more, then that is what you send her, then she's getting the correct wage you want her to have, and she isn't working for peanuts then is she?

Welcome to the real world. Having a Filipino as a lover is not something you can just run into, grab the girl and go off an be happily married, you hit many hurdles along the way......and of you are going to marry in the Phil, boy you'll meet some paperwork, plenty of red tape, tons of problems.....the fun is just starting.

so why aren't you living in Singapore then?
haven't you read articles on the treatment of foreign workers for example?

True there's a contract, which I've never seen, both my financee and her Agency contact assured her/us she could leave before the contract end: what she wants to know is can she be detained at the airport under her contract?

I don't look down on my future wife. For the hours she works alone she deserves so much more. It's a simple statement of fact. She earns more than in the Phils but that doesn't make it fair or just.

It's not up to me to pay her salary, though I have helped her with both plane tickets, funeral expenses and personal needs

Sure there may be problems ahead but this is a completely unexpected shock - I've already booked my flight, the Hotel and her brother is arranging the wedding....

[KeithD]

so why aren't you living in Singapore then?
haven't you read articles on the treatment of foreign workers for example?

So the underpaid kids in this country is OK? Sweatshops are fine? Abuse at work OK? It happens more here than it does there, stats say so, and as the population is 30:1, quite obvious.

her Agency contact assured her/us she could leave before the contract end

First Rule when dealing with any agency to do with Filipino's, and many on here will agree.....believe bugger all they say, they'll tell you anything to get money.

I don't look down on my future wife. For the hours she works alone she deserves so much more. It's a simple statement of fact. She earns more than in the Phils but that doesn't make it fair or just.

You need to stop looking at it from a Western point of view. I work 12-14 hrs a day, 7 days a week, I only get Xmas day & Good Friday off...and even then I do some work. Do I get a well paid wage for that? £92 a week??

Sure there may be problems ahead but this is a completely unexpected shock - I've already booked my flight, the Hotel and her brother is arranging the wedding....

If you search this forum, or Google, you'll find that this was rather a silly thing to do. Red tape first....then plans.......You wouldn't just walk into Burma/Iran without doing any paperwork/research!!

As I say, many of us here have been what you're going through. It's not easy, but if you really love someone, it is worth waiting.

Hey if they won't let her leave then I'll tell her exactly what to do:
nothing, she goes out every day wherever she likes, sits in her room and watches TV and refuses to work until the sack her. I could pay her 17x what she earns in Singapore...

Just because you think it's wrong, does not mean it is wrong. If you go into work tomorrow, would you just sit there all day watching TV because your fiancee didn't agree with your contract or wages? Apart from that, she'd get into trouble, and would have NO chance of getting realeased from the contract early.

[easygoingman]

well, Singapore immigration say for a domestic worker to leave the country apart from a ticket all they need are a valid Work Permit and passport. That sounds easy enough.

I had searched for many, many hours on various websites before I asked my questions here...

It's not me putting pressure on my fiancee to leave, she is desperate to leave ASAP. She doesn't need the job, the money and misses me so much.
Of course she can't tell me to quit my job until she can support me but if the tables were turned and she could financially support me and told me to quit, I would