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    My view on that Joe is that I might chat to 20 people on line for 20 years but that if I have not met the person would not allow me to support say a fiance visa application and since having "met " the person is the test why would I wish to add a rule that doesn't exist We are not talking here about a Brit being the reason for the visit (as has been stated here many times there is a low success rate for this) but a family visit application
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    My view on that Joe is that I might chat to 20 people on line for 20 years but that if I have met the person would not allow me to support say a fiance visa application and since having "met " the person is the test why would I wish to add a rule that doesn't exist We are not talking here about a Brit being the reason for the visit (as has been stated here many times there is a low success rate for this) but a family visit application
    The problem is if there was a single Brit and it was more than a casual online relationship (shown by evidence sent to support a fiancee visa) prior to the family visit then the BIA will wonder about how truthful the application for the family visit was ie the real purpose, who paid for it, where you stayed, etc.

    As a lot of the immigration process is based on the BIA believing that you are genuine you don't want them starting to wonder how genuine you are, as they can give you a hard time, or at worse refuse you.

    In the case being mentioned here they actually state that the Brit visited the Philippines because the Filipina didn't get her family visit visa hence admitting that her application for the family visa was not totally genuine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post

    In the case being mentioned here they actually state that the Brit visited the Philippines because the Filipina didn't get her family visit visa hence admitting that her application for the family visa was not totally genuine.
    Neither You ,I or the F.O. are in any position to judge the genuineness of the application in this case the key factor ,as I see it is that the refusal led to an earnest desire to meet quickly, then carried out but without any possible foreknowledge of the result but that does not indicate that the original application was not genuine , unless anyone would suggest that there is no Aunt to visit,.

    The reason I am adamant on this point is simply that to support the subsequent refusal by The C.O. to a fiance visa is tantamount to agreeing to divination on their part, nobody lied or was even economical with the truth
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    Neither You ,I or the F.O. are in any position to judge the genuineness of the application in this case the key factor ,as I see it is that the refusal led to an earnest desire to meet quickly, then carried out but without any possible foreknowledge of the result but that does not indicate that the original application was not genuine , unless anyone would suggest that there is no Aunt to visit,.

    The reason I am adamant on this point is simply that to support the subsequent refusal by The C.O. to a fiance visa is tantamount to agreeing to divination on their part, nobody lied or was even economical with the truth
    The F.O. are in a position to judge the genuineness of an application for a visa or an attempt to enter the UK. The presence of a British 'partner' (even if at that point they haven't met) will always make the ECO suspicious about the true intentions of an application for a visa, especially if it was hidden from them at some point. No one is suggesting there is no Aunt, but one could wonder who exactly was paying for the trip and where the applicant was staying, all of which I believe is asked for on the application form.

    If the ECO is suspicious of you they can make life harder for you when you apply for any subsequent visas - forcing you to attend an interview, or going through your supporting documentation in more detail, all of which could increase your chances of being refused.


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