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    Visitors visa query

    I'm afraid I'm very new to this so apologies if this has been asked before – I did a quick search on the forum, but haven't found anything similar. It’s an issue concerning a visitors visa, that hopefully someone may known the answer too. Firstly a bit of background.

    I met my Filipino lady about 2 years ago on a works trip out in China where she was singing in the band that was playing at the hotel I was staying at. We’ve been in touch regularly since then and I’ve been out to see her in China several times. She is now back in the Philippines and I’d very much like to bring her over here, but things are not quite straightforward (are they ever?). She has 2 children from her marriage though has been separated for over 10 years and despite starting divorce proceedings several times, these have stalled due to her husband’s refusal to agree to anything. As she is still legally married, a visitor’s visa seems the only option, though a section of it requires details of family and this is where the problem lies. As her children have their father’s surname, and since she’s been using her family name (which is also on her passport) following the separation, I don’t know how this will stand with the embassy. Would they require additional documents, perhaps with regard to the state of the marriage, and if so, what?

    Also, with regard to a letter of invitation, how much information should I include, given the application is for a visitor's visa rather than a fiancé visa?

    I’d very much appreciate any advice.

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    not trying to discourage you bruce but applying for visitor's visa is like lottery, out of 100 sometimes no one won, hold on,i will edit my reply i"ll try to find all the thread about other members have denied visitors visa,but don't be so hopeless i will also give u the link of those who grant their visit visa,.....

    brb lol


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    The success rate for a visitor isn't as bad as a lottery, it's just a visitor visa is though more likely to be refused than a spouse/fiancee visa.

    I guess you realise that a visitor visa is only a short term option and if you want to be together in the UK long term then she needs to get her annulment sorted out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucep View Post
    I'm afraid I'm very new to this so apologies if this has been asked before – I did a quick search on the forum, but haven't found anything similar. It’s an issue concerning a visitors visa, that hopefully someone may known the answer too. Firstly a bit of background.

    I met my Filipino lady about 2 years ago on a works trip out in China where she was singing in the band that was playing at the hotel I was staying at. We’ve been in touch regularly since then and I’ve been out to see her in China several times. She is now back in the Philippines and I’d very much like to bring her over here, but things are not quite straightforward (are they ever?). She has 2 children from her marriage though has been separated for over 10 years and despite starting divorce proceedings several times, these have stalled due to her husband’s refusal to agree to anything. As she is still legally married, a visitor’s visa seems the only option, though a section of it requires details of family and this is where the problem lies. As her children have their father’s surname, and since she’s been using her family name (which is also on her passport) following the separation, I don’t know how this will stand with the embassy. Would they require additional documents, perhaps with regard to the state of the marriage, and if so, what?

    Also, with regard to a letter of invitation, how much information should I include, given the application is for a visitor's visa rather than a fiancé visa?

    I’d very much appreciate any advice.

    Thanks
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    There are some members here who granted visit visa although her past marriage still exists.
    Passport applications in the Philippines has new rules few years ago that if you are married, YOU must state in the application that you are married and you MUST use your hubby's surname. But long years ago, We have the right to use our maiden name
    It might be an avenue litigation when it comes to annulment in the PhilippinesEspecially if you are married in the church so I hope you have lots of patience and perseverance
    Goodluck !


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    There are some members here who granted visit visa although her past marriage still exists.
    Passport applications in the Philippines has new rules few years ago that if you are married, YOU must state in the application that you are married and you MUST use your hubby's surname. But long years ago, We have the right to use our maiden name
    It might be an avenue litigation when it comes to annulment in the PhilippinesEspecially if you are married in the church so I hope you have lots of patience and perseverance
    Goodluck !
    im one of these staus...Im still using my ex husband surname.. But i been here in uk how many times,but stay not longer 6 mos in every visit..


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    i applied my visa and come here with my own capability.All ive got from my fiancee is the invitation letter...I believe having addressBut its on the part of to visit is a big point..But its on the part also of the applicant to prove capability on visit visa requirements...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini63 View Post
    i applied my visa and come here with my own capability.All ive got from my fiancee is the invitation letter...I believe having addressBut its on the part of to visit is a big point..But its on the part also of the applicant to prove capability on visit visa requirements...
    did you state on your VV app your sponsor is your fiancée ?


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    BruceP, drop me an e-mail at *************. com and i'll send you a copy of the supporting documents and an example of the application my g/f sent. She is also in the process of annulment atm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    did you state on your VV app your sponsor is your fiancée ?
    not directly, but understandable...I put close friend..it can be, coz its understood if they ask..im capable to have bf..coz im separated long time.. only the problem im not annulled yet.. some reason i cant at this time coz of my children.For their protection...


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    It might be an avenue litigation when it comes to annulment in the PhilippinesEspecially if you are married in the church so I hope you have lots of patience and perseverance
    Goodluck !
    ...And loads of money too Cheers!
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    It runs because of the hits of pain.
    Life is a race. God is your rider.
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    then think God wants you to win


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    Joe is correct ... this is the experience of another forum member.

    The visit visa is not impossible to obtain - we put in Ruby's application, in blissful ignorance before finding this forum. The visa was granted in less than a week but, probably, only because Ruby had previous travel history, including a trip to Australia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucep View Post
    I'm afraid I'm very new to this so apologies if this has been asked before – I did a quick search on the forum, but haven't found anything similar. It’s an issue concerning a visitors visa, that hopefully someone may known the answer too. Firstly a bit of background.

    I met my Filipino lady about 2 years ago on a works trip out in China where she was singing in the band that was playing at the hotel I was staying at. We’ve been in touch regularly since then and I’ve been out to see her in China several times. She is now back in the Philippines and I’d very much like to bring her over here, but things are not quite straightforward (are they ever?). She has 2 children from her marriage though has been separated for over 10 years and despite starting divorce proceedings several times, these have stalled due to her husband’s refusal to agree to anything. As she is still legally married, a visitor’s visa seems the only option, though a section of it requires details of family and this is where the problem lies. As her children have their father’s surname, and since she’s been using her family name (which is also on her passport) following the separation, I don’t know how this will stand with the embassy. Would they require additional documents, perhaps with regard to the state of the marriage, and if so, what?

    Also, with regard to a letter of invitation, how much information should I include, given the application is for a visitor's visa rather than a fiancé visa?

    I’d very much appreciate any advice.

    Thanks
    Bruce
    i was granted for visit visa when i first came here in uk, what documents i had personally is nothing coz i don't have property or any asset aside for my passport and birth cer. i had work but money is not enough to show to the ECO, so all of my supporting documents are from my bf (now my husband) and just for a day appointment to the embassy and visit visa was granted. and yes i had an interviewed but it was easy.
    all things are possible!


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    Many thanks for all your replies and comments. There is a further concern though regarding this visitor’s visa, which ties in with my previous post.

    Jean applied for the same type of visa about 12 months ago, while working out in China. This unfortunately was refused on the grounds of insufficient paperwork to show why she was in China, and also lack of funding to support her trip. This was despite stating that I would be her sponsor and me sending her copies of the required documents as proof of my income, savings etc. I thought that the children would have been taken into consideration too, but then discovered that Jean hadn’t mentioned them on the application. Her reason for doing this, was not only because she had been using her family name for so long, but also that she had stated she was single when applying for her passport. Including the children with their father’s surname on the visa form would have no doubt rung alarm bells at the embassy. I don’t know whether she was given bad advice, but she told me she had done this, in order to get a visa to work in China - a married woman with 2 children is less likely to get a working visa than someone who is single with no dependants.

    This time I would like to make sure everything is correct with the application, but if she includes her family details, and her passport says something else, I’m worried it will be denied again, especially since she has been refused already.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucep View Post
    Many thanks for all your replies and comments. There is a further concern though regarding this visitor’s visa, which ties in with my previous post.

    Jean applied for the same type of visa about 12 months ago, while working out in China. This unfortunately was refused on the grounds of insufficient paperwork to show why she was in China, and also lack of funding to support her trip. This was despite stating that I would be her sponsor and me sending her copies of the required documents as proof of my income, savings etc. I thought that the children would have been taken into consideration too, but then discovered that Jean hadn’t mentioned them on the application. Her reason for doing this, was not only because she had been using her family name for so long, but also that she had stated she was single when applying for her passport. Including the children with their father’s surname on the visa form would have no doubt rung alarm bells at the embassy. I don’t know whether she was given bad advice, but she told me she had done this, in order to get a visa to work in China - a married woman with 2 children is less likely to get a working visa than someone who is single with no dependants.

    This time I would like to make sure everything is correct with the application, but if she includes her family details, and her passport says something else, I’m worried it will be denied again, especially since she has been refused already.

    If she applied her passport when she was still single, you have mentioned she's been separated for 10 years. By that time, she needs to renew her old passport. She has time to declare and use her hubby's surname so there will be no conflict in the future.

    I think she needs to be honest this time and be herself when applying her visit visa.
    Goodluck!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    If she applied her passport when she was still single, you have mentioned she's been separated for 10 years. By that time, she needs to renew her old passport. She has time to declare and use her hubby's surname so there will be no conflict in the future.

    I think she needs to be honest this time and be herself when applying her visit visa.
    Goodluck!
    I'm pretty sure that was the case with her passport before she got married, but she renewed it a couple of years ago at the Philippines embassy in Beijing, giving the same details, her family name and that she was single. This new passport has another 3 years to run.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucep View Post
    I'm pretty sure that was the case with her passport before she got married, but she renewed it a couple of years ago at the Philippines embassy in Beijing, giving the same details, her family name and that she was single. This new passport has another 3 years to run.
    She can apply ammendment of her passport anytime as long as she has docs which I am sure she has. That is, if she wants to use her hubby's surname to apply visit visa in the UK.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vbkelly View Post
    i was granted for visit visa when i first came here in uk, what documents i had personally is nothing coz i don't have property or any asset aside for my passport and birth cer. i had work but money is not enough to show to the ECO, so all of my supporting documents are from my bf (now my husband) and just for a day appointment to the embassy and visit visa was granted. and yes i had an interviewed but it was easy.
    In my case, i wasnt interviewed even once,got it easily.I put in my application i have children coz its one idea for the eco that i will return or comeback to phil coz i have children...Ive got 3 application of visit visa approved...the last 1 got 2 yrs multiple entry, without interview.


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