Fault and offence

[pennybarry]

Hi Penny!

Cheers to that! Good you just didnt keep quiet, even if they are the police doenst mean they are always right. I was driving yesterday morning to work and a police car was behind me, was driving slow bec of heavy snow but when I stopped at the roundabout he almost hit me...I saw him skid towards my car then went sideways. Well that wasnt my fault..anyway we carried on driving after that lol.


But my advice to you, get your own car next time so you wont rely on your husband :P

I have my own car and still can't able to drive yet, I cannot shut up my mouth if I have seen them shouting my hubby. they must know how to use good approach isn't it. Hubby was a tank driver in the army for 7 years, 17 years London bus driver and 6 years HGV class 1 driving. He really loves driving

Can think of many occasions where I have overheard the police saying things when they dont think they are being overheard by any civilians
Seen many occasions at football where id tags are taken off and basically up for a fight.
Many football fans joke you have three firms at any football match to avoid and ones in a uniform are the worse.

I know of honest as the day is long friends with their entire families who have been stopped at football matchs and serached under anti terriost laws.

Pennyblack be careful what you say and do, if you upset even one of the old bill you as a person who is living in a address, have a job and unlikely to abscond is a dream for the old bill. Your give them the chance on a cold night to go back to the station either to fill in paperwork or take you and/or the hubby back
Dont think you broken a law well be careful many other people have thought the same. Most likely your get a caution so some paperwork no days out at court ongoing paperwork for the police.

PS i dont speak from personal experience just what i have seen happen to others.

Yes i have met and seen many good police but sadly way to many bad apples.

I am not pennyblack. Is that me?

applause for a brave one friendship lol

Yep! That's why hubby said, I'll put in jail first b4 him.

[Eljohno]

Why would they say to stop swearing if that was not the case.

Why argue with Policemen its a stupid thing to do as they will always win in the end...

[scott&ligaya]

Not always, coming back from a round table meetiing a couple ofyears back in Hong Kong with three very merry passengers and me as nominated driver stone cold sober. I was pulled over by a traffic unit for apparently speeding(spot fine in HK) I told them that I absolutely was not, they insisted I was until one of my passengers introduced himself to the young officers as their regional boss and invited them to look at HIS car's "Little balck box" which recorded all of his driving!!!! Poor guys did not know where to look, and even dumber for not knowing their bosses registration. Unlucky for them that my car was in garagenat the time.:

[adam&chryss]

Why would they say to stop swearing if that was not the case.

Why argue with Policemen its a stupid thing to do as they will always win in the end...

I agree. Just do as they say and get on with your life. If you`d just say ok sorry then thats it and no one is angry or stressed.
Respect works both ways doesn`t it and argueing with them doesn`t help.
Bear that in mind for the future.

[pennybarry]

I agree. Just do as they say and get on with your life. If you`d just say ok sorry then thats it and no one is angry or stressed.
Respect works both ways doesn`t it and argueing with them doesn`t help.
Bear that in mind for the future.

You mean policemen always right? you have to say YES and SORRY to them? I don't think so. We were not really in a junction as hubby says. That's why they argued. Sometimes policemen agreed they're wrong too. Their just seeking fault and offence Even Mr. Gordon and Cameron apologized on T.V. if they were wrong. But I agree British are good citizens in their own country, they always obeys rules inspite of moaning about the law and rules, they still obey the government.

I heard Mom, Dad and hubby talking about privatization of post office, trains etc. which was done by Tatcher gov't. They said most people didn't like it and I asked them why people didn't resists and made actions during that time?

[KeithD]

You mean policemen always right? you have to say YES and SORRY to them? I don't think so. We were not really in a junction as hubby says. That's why they argued. Sometimes policemen agreed they're wrong too.

That is when technologu play a part, take multiple pictures with your camera, and a recording.

[somebody]

That is when technologu play a part, take multiple pictures with your camera, and a recording.

Seen people do that and then the police confiscate the camera on some trumped up charge

[KeithD]

Seen people do that and then the police confiscate the camera on some trumped up charge

Unless it is a weapon, they can't take it off you by force. All you need to tell them is they can have it back at the station via your solicitor no problemo....then they won't get it. .....if they try to take it, you can have them for assault.....it's on camera

[adam&chryss]

You mean policemen always right? you have to say YES and SORRY to them? I don't think so. We were not really in a junction as hubby says. That's why they argued. Sometimes policemen agreed they're wrong too. Their just seeking fault and offence Even Mr. Gordon and Cameron apologized on T.V. if they were wrong. But I agree British are good citizens in their own country, they always obeys rules inspite of moaning about the law and rules, they still obey the government.

I heard Mom, Dad and hubby talking about privatization of post office, trains etc. which was done by Tatcher gov't. They said most people didn't like it and I asked them why people didn't resists and made actions during that time?

It`s ok you carry on argueing with them and getting stressed, i`ll just agree and stay calm and happy
Thatcher did lots of things and the majority of the country voted her in, though i`m not sure many scots did.

[pennybarry]

That is when technologu play a part, take multiple pictures with your camera, and a recording.

My mobile was inside my jacket left at friends house that time.

I remember when we were at Pitlochry for a 3 days holiday, I got my video with me. I have noticed that the road is too narrow and there's no white line in the middle. Then suddenly, there was a car coming infront and hit our right side mirror and was broken into pieces. We turned back and chased the driver to stop but he didn't. I have noticed his side mirror too was partly damaged. I took video, photos, and got his plate number. Then we rang police and we discovered that the car is owned by local resident. I showed them my photos and videos taken. Police made report for us to claim insurance payment.

It`s ok you carry on argueing with them and getting stressed, i`ll just agree and stay calm and happy
Thatcher did lots of things and the majority of the country voted her in, though i`m not sure many scots did.

I am happy expressing what I feel and give explanations than hide it.

[somebody]

You mean policemen always right? you have to say YES and SORRY to them? I don't think so. We were not really in a junction as hubby says. That's why they argued. Sometimes policemen agreed they're wrong too. Their just seeking fault and offence Even Mr. Gordon and Cameron apologized on T.V. if they were wrong. But I agree British are good citizens in their own country, they always obeys rules inspite of moaning about the law and rules, they still obey the government.

I heard Mom, Dad and hubby talking about privatization of post office, trains etc. which was done by Tatcher gov't. They said most people didn't like it and I asked them why people didn't resists and made actions during that time?

Anyone can say sorry its wheter you mean it Brown and cameron just want your vote they tell you the sky is pink if they think they get more votes or out of a hole.

Still a risky thing to do, make sure you keep a clear mind and know when to back down as i said before you can end up in the back of a meat wagon on a trumped up charge. Touch or swear at a police officer and they can nick you etc. They can use reasonable force, and of course you could of been resisting arrest....

I overheard a convo between two senior desk bound police officers recently the jist of was "Its not like the old days now we have to fill in paperwork and check they ok in the old days we just whacked em and locked em up for a while."

[adam&chryss]

Anyone can say sorry its wheter you mean it Brown and cameron just want your vote they tell you the sky is pink if they think they get more votes or out of a hole.

Still a risky thing to do, make sure you keep a clear mind and know when to back down as i said before you can end up in the back of a meat wagon on a trumped up charge. Touch or swear at a police officer and they can nick you etc. They can use reasonable force, and of course you could of been resisting arrest....

I overheard a convo between two senior desk bound police officers recently the jist of was "Its not like the old days now we have to fill in paperwork and check they ok in the old days we just whacked em and locked em up for a while."

My point exactly
Having been the owner of a lovely red and black Yamaha R1 a few years ago i`m used to the police. Getting my point across sometimes didnt result in any shouting as I know it doesn`t help. Anyway like I said, i`m relaxed so thats fine.