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    proof of no marriage..wat certificate?

    Hi just want to ask what proof of no marriage certficate did your fiance submitted? we are applying for fiancee visa and we cannot figure out wat certificate to get, to prove that my fiance never been married...he is not allowed to get cert of non -impediment because we are not going to be married here.

    if anyone can answer my Q, i would appreciate it. thnks!


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    try using using this link http://www.british-filipino.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by bornatbirth View Post
    try using using this link http://www.british-filipino.com/
    the link you sent did not answer my Q. we did not see wat sort of certificate to get to prove that my fiance is single. it is the CFO requiring the cert of no- marriage for my fiance, he cannot get one the registry in england will not issue the cert of non-impediment because we are not getting married in the philippines.

    he's getting pissed off because we dont know wats the name of the certificate to get. did anyone had a problem like this???


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    wait for Ady to reply on your thread,cause he is bachelor,so wonder what did he submit to the ECO as proof of his no impediment to marriage


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    Hi just want to ask what proof of no marriage certficate did your fiance submitted? we are applying for fiancee visa and we cannot figure out wat certificate to get, to prove that my fiance never been married...he is not allowed to get cert of non -impediment because we are not going to be married here.

    if anyone can answer my Q, i would appreciate it. thnks!
    Apply CENOMAR to your nearest NSO. Cenomar is a certificate means CertificATe of No Marriage or singleship certificate. That is one of the requirement to marry a foreigner.

    About your hubby's certificate, he needs to apply in his nearest registry.


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    When my wife applied for a fiancee visa she didnt provide anything to provide I had never married.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    Apply CENOMAR to your nearest NSO. Cenomar is a certificate means CertificATe of No Marriage or singleship certificate. That is one of the requirement to marry a foreigner.

    About your hubby's certificate, he needs to apply in his nearest registry.
    I have no problem with my CENOMAR i have it. our problem is my fiance's certificate, he is single, the CFO is asking me to bring the proof of no marriage of him. My fiance ask the Registry in england but they will not issue him the cert of no-impediment because he is not getting married here in the philippines.

    so my question is wats the name of the certificate he is going to get to submit to embassy and cfo to prove that hes never been married? if he cannot get the no-impediment


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    When my wife applied for a fiancee visa she didnt provide anything to provide I had never married.
    Hi darren--wat about the CFO seminar? did your wife attended one?

    I will be attending the seminar soon but one of the requirement they telling me is proof no marriage of my fiance. oh were stuck

    the guy at the cfo cebu was telling me that i have to bring with me document to prove that my fiance is single and never been married

    where can we find that certificate?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    Hi darren--wat about the CFO seminar? did your wife attended one?

    I will be attending the seminar soon but one of the requirement they telling me is proof no marriage of my fiance. oh were stuck

    the guy at the cfo cebu was telling me that i have to bring with me document to prove that my fiance is single and never been married

    where can we find that certificate?
    Yes she attended the CFO seminar, and she definately didn't take anything to prove I was single.


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    Your fiancee can ask the registry in UK to get you a letter stating he is not married, this is differrent from CNI.My Fiancee manage to get this letter from the registry office.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    ... the CFO is asking me to bring the proof of no marriage of him. ...[/I][/B]
    May I ask which CFO center did u inquire about requirements, Sunshine? CFO centers have varied requirements aside from the regular ones. Why not try inquiring in a different center? They might not ask you for it coz its not in the list of requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by empott View Post
    May I ask which CFO center did u inquire about requirements, Sunshine? CFO centers have varied requirements aside from the regular ones. Why not try inquiring in a different center? They might not ask you for it coz its not in the list of requirements.
    It's definately not in the list of requirements on the CFO website.

    Also you could actually get issued with a fiancee visa whilst your British fiance was still in the final stages of a divorce and hence wouldn't actually be able to get anything to show he was free to marry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    Yes she attended the CFO seminar, and she definately didn't take anything to prove I was single.
    Same for us. Nothing included for visa application and not asked for or needed when my fiancee did her CFO about 3 weeks ago.


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    Hi,

    For our application I didn't submit any documents to prove that I was not married. Not sure about the CFO requirements though.


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    Sunshine,

    Did you manage to get the CFO seminar completed now? And did they ask for proof of singleness at Cebu?

    Thanks in advance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ady View Post
    Sunshine,

    Did you manage to get the CFO seminar completed now? And did they ask for proof of singleness at Cebu?

    Thanks in advance.

    Hi Ady, yes im done with my cfo counselling at cebu last week and they did ask proof of marital status of my fiance, i told the counselor the my fiance cannot get one (not CNI or even a letter). Then she started to get a bit angry because she said its one of the requirements. Seems she didnt believe that my fiance was telling the truth, i even show her the contact number of the registry in Leeds to prove that my fiance was telling the truth. The registry said its illegal to give any document because my fiance is not getting married in the Philippines. They really very strict not even a letter they will not give....The cfo counselor said she has no time in ringing them, she said its really up to me if i believe my fiance that he is telling the truth that he is really single! she said they are only trying to help me. she also said that other uk applicants manage to get proof of singleness. How did they do that?

    So in the end she did ask (1)our photo together and my fiance birth certificate. She also said that if my fiance cannot get any legal document to prove that he is really single, then we might have a probem with our visa application??? Is this true??


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    Hi Ady, yes im done with my cfo counselling at cebu last week and they did ask proof of marital status of my fiance, i told the counselor the my fiance cannot get one (not CNI or even a letter). Then she started to get a bit angry because she said its one of the requirements. Seems she didnt believe that my fiance was telling the truth, i even show her the contact number of the registry in Leeds to prove that my fiance was telling the truth. The registry said its illegal to give any document because my fiance is not getting married in the Philippines. They really very strict not even a letter they will not give....The cfo counselor said she has no time in ringing them, she said its really up to me if i believe my fiance that he is telling the truth that he is really single! she said they are only trying to help me. she also said that other uk applicants manage to get proof of singleness. How did they do that?

    So in the end she did ask (1)our photo together and my fiance birth certificate. She also said that if my fiance cannot get any legal document to prove that he is really single, then we might have a probem with our visa application??? Is this true??
    Sunshine, have you applied for the visa yet? Or did you take the CFO before the Visa application? It is strange that they are asking for something that does not exist . The only way for me to prove singleness is to get married and divorced but Shei is going to the CFO next week so no idea. I guess I will tell Shei that, if ever she is asked, that the registries in the UK do not provide this, but here is the number of my local registry if they wish to ask further. Being as the interview happens 7am UK time, they will not get an answer anyhow! I will also tell Shei that, since she has a visa, the British Embassy know that I am single and that should suffice.

    In terms of your question, I don't think it is true. Like I said, I didn't provide any proof of singleness in our application, no such thing exists to my knowledge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    She also said that if my fiance cannot get any legal document to prove that he is really single, then we might have a probem with our visa application??? Is this true??
    No that's not true.

    I thought you were meant to attend the CFO session after you were granted the visa.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    No that's not true.

    I thought you were meant to attend the CFO session after you were granted the visa.
    I think that's the point really. If the British Embassy, after all of their checks, has granted you fiancee visa, then the CFO will assume that they, the British Embassy are confident that your fiance is single and so they will then accept that as a fact on that basis.

    Iain.


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    What rubbish this person at the CFO is speaking. We never needed anything for our visa relating to my fiance's single status.

    The UK seems unconcerned with the singleness of its citizens. We were told a CNI is the only possible document someone in the UK can obtain from the authorities, and that is to marry foreigners, and only where the foreign country demands proof to allow local marriage.

    How can they say there is such a requirement for CFO if it does not appear on their official requirements list? Perhaps if the lady at CFO is such an expert of UK singleness forms, she can tell you exactly the name of the form and its reference?

    I'm sorry but this process is complicated and a nightmare enough, without officials dreaming up extra impossible requirements.

    Good luck!


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    No that's not true.

    I thought you were meant to attend the CFO session after you were granted the visa.

    I was required to attend the cfo seminar even before we apply for visa because i am going to renew my passport first. We cannot proceed with our visa application if i don't renew my pasport and DFA will not issue a new passport not until i attend the cfo seminar and counseling.

    The lady at the cfo said if i can produce a CENOMAR, then why my fiance cannot? I was really getting angry at her but i controlled myself otherwise she might not give me the certificate of attendance lol. Obviously she dont know what shes talking about its pointless to argue.

    The important thing now is i got the cfo certificate and we can proceed with our visa application and renew my passport.


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    I'm just wondering, if you are single and want to apply for a passport or renew your passport, why don't you just say for "travel purposes". You don't have to tell them that you are going to join your fiance abroad. That way you don't need to go to CFO first. Just a thought tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    Hi just want to ask what proof of no marriage certficate did your fiance submitted? we are applying for fiancee visa and we cannot figure out wat certificate to get, to prove that my fiance never been married...he is not allowed to get cert of non -impediment because we are not going to be married here.

    if anyone can answer my Q, i would appreciate it. thnks!
    hello. let your fiance get a CNI (cert of no impediment).that answers your question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DianaKevy View Post
    hello. let your fiance get a CNI (cert of no impediment).that answers your question.


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    hi iam having the same problem so wot ive done now is registard to marry in the phillippines so can get the certivicate of inpendment iam sending it to my fiance as proof even tho we dont intend to marry there but that should still prove to cfo iam single then we will just reregistar to marry again in the uk when she comes so hopfuly that will work .


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    Quote Originally Posted by aricon View Post
    hi iam having the same problem so wot ive done now is registard to marry in the phillippines so can get the certivicate of inpendment iam sending it to my fiance as proof even tho we dont intend to marry there but that should still prove to cfo iam single then we will just reregistar to marry again in the uk when she comes so hopfuly that will work .
    You don't have to re-register again to marry in the Uk, though you should register your marriage through the Philippines Embassy after your wedding.

    There is no way you should need to do this though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aricon View Post
    hi iam having the same problem so wot ive done now is registard to marry in the phillippines so can get the certivicate of inpendment iam sending it to my fiance as proof even tho we dont intend to marry there but that should still prove to cfo iam single then we will just reregistar to marry again in the uk when she comes so hopfuly that will work .
    Hi we have sorted the certificate. I have attended the cfo last week without the proof of singleness off my fiance. The cfo cebu are rubbish they don't know what they are talking about someone should tell them that. I had a bit of argument with the conselor because she insisted on that certificate which my fiance cannot get in the uk, theres not such thing, the uk registry will not give any certificate of singleness if no intention of marrying in the philippines.

    what you did was additional expense your fiancee in philippines can still attend the cfo and get the cfo certificate, she just have to explain to them and be assertive.


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    ye i no its cost me a bit more expence but to see the smile on my fiances face after all the upset it was worth it


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    I phoned the cfo Cebu last week and asked for the requirements and other procedures. And the clerk asked me if My Fiance has a Proof of Singleness,,and I said No i dont have that. And asked what type of Visa i have..and the Nationality. So I said Fiancee Visa and He is British. Then told her I have a Visa Already. And she let me get it and asked what class #^$*&$)_!&++#! (Allien Question)and i keep on pardon what she meant? And seems she is mad and think Iam stupid bcoz i cant answer her question and i cant find it in my Visa (about my Visa). Then her voice high Pitch and asked Is your husband is an Australian Right?????? And I said Noooo he is British and I mentioned that before. And she said ohh ok.Then calm down. )Bleeeeee at napahiya siya.) Really she seems not helping us lol. Dont even say sorry.
    So she said as long as i will bring our Proof or relationships..Evidence.Like greetings card..pictures Letters...etc.
    Just share what we talked.Hope Next week my Seminar in CFO goes smoothly.


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    Hopefully you will be okay, Sheila. Myrna obtained her certificate and sticker at Cebu without any problem, just this last Wednesday. However, unlike you, Myrna is on a spouse visa.


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