Long flight

[scott&ligaya]

Some airlines like KLM, to Manila and Virgin and Air New Zealand (to HK) have a class called premium economy or something similar with more leg room and width. Not nearly as expensive as Business class.

might be worth a try

[cheesewiz]

Some airlines like KLM, to Manila and Virgin and Air New Zealand (to HK) have a class called premium economy or something similar with more leg room and width. Not nearly as expensive as Business class.

might be worth a try

oh that's good to know that...thanks a lot

[scott&ligaya]

no problem Cheesewiz

one more thing, he can get noise cancelling headphones which are much better and do help you sleep more easily. Just ask at one of the big electrical stores.

[Piamed]

Some airlines like KLM, to Manila and Virgin and Air New Zealand (to HK) have a class called premium economy or something similar with more leg room and width. Not nearly as expensive as Business class.

might be worth a try

KLm unfortunately does not have a Premium Economy yet but their 'partner' Air France does, so do BA, BMI, SAS, Thai Airways and Singapore Arlines, to list the main ones.

There are some good deals to be had on Business Class with KLM if one has enough Flying Blue Miles.

[EdwardB]

Everybody deals with long flights differently.

If you are fortunate enough to be able to turn left when you board chances are you might enjoy .....more than endure. But even if you are lucky enough to turn left to sit in seat 1A, after too many flights in a short period familiarity will be breed contempt. You will soon realise that spending 14 hours on an airborne park bench, even with a mattress and a flimsy duvet whilst drinking Krug only seems comfortable due to the amount of Krug you have consummed - if you don't know this now be assured you will realise this just before landing when you wake up with a skull breaking hangover.

For about 2K sterling less than First you can still turn left and fly business. The benefit is ....still a flat park bench allbeit slightly smaller. But no mattress and the duvet is very flimsy. You'll still get real Champagne. & The hangover is no different from the Krug in First - or for that matter Fosters in 74K.

Ultimately you have a choice - pay little & sit at the back... or pay an extra 2K GBP+ on most Asian flights to get a flat bed

Unless you can sleep on a plane the bed is useless - other than as a posing seat - & as it is unlikely you will be seen by anyone you know the pose factor is pointless.

Several recommendations in this thread for premium/enhanced economy. In my view on Asian flights pointless. If you can sleep sitting up then the extra "pitch", as they call it, will only give you a slightly less stiff neck. In real estate terms PE seats are the worst value on the plane. They are mostly used for rewarding high fare paying frequent flyers on overbooked planes.

My best advice for flying to RP is - unless you are seriously rich - ;

1. fly coach via HKG on Air NZ or Cathay on a daytime flight inbound to UK & on the earliest flight outbound to HKG. The coach seat is bigger & the inflight service good. Virgin daytime flights next choice - seats too small.
2 Use a Middle East airline via one of the Emirates. Best aircraft best seats - but I don't recommend changing planes midway. But you may be able to deal with the insomnia better than me.
3. For Davao go via Singapore

Best of all collect BA miles on your credit card and use them to upgrade. Business on BA can be had most days to Hong Kong at the moment for GBP800 plus 40,000 BA Miles. Use Cebu to complete the journey. Cathay Pacific prices are absurd unless you have access to a Hong Kong travel agent.

Current best choice is Cathay in coach at about GBP395 to Hkg.