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    Is it a SCAM? Please help!

    I received an e-mail containing the message below:

    Job Opening in Gallery Hotel London
    From: Gallery Hotel London <mrgn_ptrck@yahoo.co.uk
    Dear Applicant,

    Thanks for the interest in working with us. Kindly find the attached application form, fill it with pen and send us the scanned copy as soon as possible.

    (They told me I am not going to pay for anything.)

    Address: 8-10 Queensberry Place, London, UK
    +447023074529, +447024052533
    Email:################

    It's tempting. But I think it is some kind of a scam. I hope somebody could help me. Please drop me an e-mail at


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    probably is, the guys email address is a yahoo one

    and the telephone number dialing code is a 070 which is a kinda premium number

    this is the telephone number for the hotel
    it should start with 020 7915 0000 a london dialing code.
    not the one in your email

    you cannot be offered a job, they would need a work permit for you (tier 2 or tier 3) and they are points based now.. difficult to get

    so dont waste your money..


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    follow the expert, ( as what moderator say so) ............


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    probably is, the guys email address is a yahoo one

    and the telephone number dialing code is a 070 which is a kinda premium number

    this is the telephone number for the hotel
    it should start with 020 7915 0000 a london dialing code.
    not the one in your email

    you cannot be offered a job, they would need a work permit for you (tier 2 or tier 3) and they are points based now.. difficult to get

    so dont waste your money..
    Thanks joebloggs! You have been a great help! It's just that I keep thinking about it. Anyway, I'll just delete that mail.

    Sorry for posting my e-mail and the hotel's website.


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    it's definitely a scam sis..


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    The real number would indeed mention a 0207 number as its south kensington which is sw7 2 ea for this hotels location.

    All addresses particuarly in London use Post codes so nearly always it will be mentioned.

    If you did have someone from the location speak to you say someone you know lives in london and they will drop off the cv there for you.
    Somehow i don't they would want that.
    Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strangemikan View Post
    Thanks joebloggs! You have been a great help! It's just that I keep thinking about it. Anyway, I'll just delete that mail.

    Sorry for posting my e-mail and the hotel's website.
    That's good! You listens to good advisers. My friend was almost victimized by scammers. Same modus operandi

    He already sent his docs because he was eager to work in hotel in Canada. But before he send money, he asked me about it, I did search the hotel for him and made inquiry email and also informed them about people scamming using their hotel name. They replied to me and forwarded it to my friend. He was really convinced with scammers until he read letter from hotel and at last, he believed it was scam

    Anyway, he's now in Canada and working in a prestigious hotel, he paid nothing except his medical. He applied thru licensed agency in Manila


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    This is not a scam - perfectly genuine. Send me £100 and I shall send you back £1000. Everyone on this forum will tell you that I can be trusted!!!

    Al.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    This is not a scam - perfectly genuine. Send me £100 and I shall send you back £1000. Everyone on this forum will tell you that I can be trusted!!!

    Al.
    Of course you're honest, I thought everyone had heard of honest Al.

    We did agree a tenner for saying that !!
    JOHN and VANESSA


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    Quote Originally Posted by somebody View Post
    The real number would indeed mention a 0207 number as its south kensington which is sw7 2 ea for this hotels location.

    All addresses particuarly in London use Post codes so nearly always it will be mentioned.

    If you did have someone from the location speak to you say someone you know lives in london and they will drop off the cv there for you.
    Somehow i don't they would want that.
    bit interesting this one andy, as far as i can tell the hotel does exist, but if you look at the web site there is no contact number on the site, so either a scammer has set up this fake web site, which i doubt looking at it, or the scammers have found a hotel web site that doesn't have contact numbers, so you can only phone them only by the 07 number in the email sneaky


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    I checked on the uinternet. It may not be a scam.

    The yelow pages, at yell.com show the hotela as:-

    8-10, Queensberry Place,
    London,
    SW7 2EA

    Tel: 0845 456 6399

    so if anyone is interested it may be worth a call to check out the offer direct with the hotel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    I checked on the uinternet. It may not be a scam.

    The hotel may be real, but this is a scam. Do a google for "Job Opening in Gallery Hotel London". Each Google search result has a different email address.

    DON'T call that 070 number, and you would probably be wasting your time calling the hotel direct on the 0845 number.

    I've said this before, and I'll say it again, most organisations, whether a hotel or a large company will NOT use a free email address provided by Yahoo or Hotmail, or if they do, they would use an email address thats a bit more memorable than the one quoted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    bit interesting this one andy, as far as i can tell the hotel does exist, but if you look at the web site there is no contact number on the site, so either a scammer has set up this fake web site, which i doubt looking at it, or the scammers have found a hotel web site that doesn't have contact numbers, so you can only phone them only by the 07 number in the email sneaky
    Yes sir the Hotel does exist and know of it, just near some clients of ours.

    It does have a phone number I belive and like Rob says unlikely they would advertise in this way surely even though a third party.

    Im sure the scammer just use google and like you say get one which is a bit vague on details.

    I dont visit london so often now on business but if people need assitance checking out places like this im sure I can try and help.
    Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    bit interesting this one andy, as far as i can tell the hotel does exist, but if you look at the web site there is no contact number on the site, so either a scammer has set up this fake web site, which i doubt looking at it, or the scammers have found a hotel web site that doesn't have contact numbers, so you can only phone them only by the 07 number in the email sneaky
    The hotel web site that I think you are refering to is hosted by CentralR.com. They are a booking agency, and therefore don't publish phone numbers as they don't want you contacting the hotel directly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    The hotel web site that I think you are refering to is hosted by CentralR.com. They are a booking agency, and therefore don't publish phone numbers as they don't want you contacting the hotel directly.
    yes your right, so if the poster clicked on the link to the web site, they don't know the telephone number of the hotel as its not displayed by the agency, the only number they have is the 07 number in the email

    still sneaky ..


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    Girls

    If you throw ...Gallery Hotel London scam in the aol search engine,
    makes interesting reading

    I guess your e-mail followed these lines ....
    THE GALLERY HOTELS LONDON*
    The Gallery mirror .
    Address Contact :+ 44-703-186-7658
    www.galleryhotellondon.co.uk
    Head office in UK :
    Address: 8-10 Queensberry Place, London, UK


    LIVE & WORK IN LONDON SKILLFUL WORKERS NEEDED TA GALLERY HOTELS LONDON,
    Vacancies / employment :
    From the gallery hotels management. This is to inform you that the management of gallery hotels London are in need of workers whom employment will be granted to work at gallery hotel London for more than 2 years. The gallery hotel management are in charge to take care of your accommodation & flight tickets. Also to exercise perfectly on your UK working-visa processing towards the united kingdom skilled worker eligible visas. If you are interested to work in this hotel Kindly write to us back soon at:<hotelgallery70@yahoo.co.uk

    REGARDS,

    HON JAMES
    VACANCY MANAGER


    Despicable... but a good example of a 419 fraud.


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    The 070 prefix is a free internet based number that will give you free voice box recorded messages and it is VERY common now for scammers to set up false web sites using origional material from the real Hotel/Bank etc

    these scams are called 419 and if you have time and interest google it as there is a great site that takes on the scammers and gets their false websites and bank accounts closed down
    Absit invidia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sconnie View Post
    Of course you're honest, I thought everyone had heard of honest Al.

    We did agree a tenner for saying that !!
    I thought I said a tanner!

    Al.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    I checked on the uinternet. It may not be a scam.

    The yelow pages, at yell.com show the hotel as:-

    8-10, Queensberry Place,
    London,
    SW7 2EA

    Tel: 0845 456 6399

    so if anyone is interested it may be worth a call to check out the offer direct with the hotel.
    Further to above.

    Even though I am in Spain, I called the 0845 number.

    It is a legitimate reservations agency. It is not an employment agency.


    It is very strange that I have been unable to get a number for the hotel itself but I guess the last word is that this is a scam.

    Sorry if I contributed to the mistery.


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    07 is a mobile phone number.


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    I find that I must agree with the rest of the members that posted here.

    It is most definitively a scam, not a very subtle one, but it is basically directed to people desperate to gain employment abroad.

    Yes it is a typical "fee for help" 419 nigerian jobby.

    For people that don't know what we mean, please visit..
    www.419eater.com

    If posting this link makes, at least, 1 person aware enough not to respond to such mails, then it will have been worth doing it.


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    have you tried tracing the original source of the email to confirm if it was from the UK ?
    You may find that it originated elsewhere which may confirm the scam.


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    Info re UK telephone numbers:-

    Personal Numbering, Radiopaging & Mobile Service numbers
    Download 07 numbers (MS Excel format)

    (numbers beginning 07)
    Personal Numbering (070 numbers)
    Radiopaging numbers (076 numbers)
    Mobile numbers (075/7/8/9)


    Thus +447024052533 is Personal Numbering (070 numbers) and therefore would never be used for any genuine job offer.

    ITS A SCAM !!!!!


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    Got this in my spam file a minute ago.... just wondering......


    Attention: Grant Beneficiary


    This is to bring to your information that your email has been randomly selected and approved as a charity grant beneficiary of THE DIANA MEMORIAL FOUNDATION in commiseration of the demise of the Princess Of Wales .You are awarded a grant sum of 3, 550, 000.00 GBP (Three Million Five Hundred And Fifty Thousand Great Britain Pounds) and for further instructions on how you are to put claim to your grant, you are to FORWARD a copy of this notice to our International Grants Officer as well as give him a call via contact details below:


    Mr. James McArthur.
    INTERNATIONAL GRANTS OFFICER,
    GRANT AWARD DEPARTMENT,
    THE DIANA MEMORIAL FOUNDATION
    FOUNDATION BUILDING,
    214 GREAT QUEEN STREET,
    LONDON, WC2B 5DF
    UNITED KINGDOM.
    Tel: +44 703 192 5773, +44 703 192 5783
    Fax: +44 871 263 9807, +44 871 264 1453
    Email: dianagrantuk@gmail.com


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    I got six or seven of this kind of stuff in my spam mail box.
    Get on average 1 a week or so.

    Also, Got to admit that the Paypal spoofs are quite good and I can see how some people may fall for them.


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    Fresh from the virtual press.....



    Proposal**‏
    From:<IMG id=P___415472143 style="DISPLAY: none" webimdisplayStyle="inline"> BHP BILLITON PLC (rjdiaz@apc.edu.ph) You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as junkSent:08 March 2009 15:10:59To: info@bhpbilliton.org


    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Our company BHP Billiton Plc requires international agents. If you are interested in handling this position please write back for more information on our enquiry.

    Email to: bhpbilliton.plcuk2@btinternet.com

    Best Regards,
    Ms.Jane McAloon,
    Company Secretary



    Nice one, huh...?



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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    Also, Got to admit that the Paypal spoofs are quite good and I can see how some people may fall for them.
    ... except when you still find cyrillic characters interspersed in the message...


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    Whoa! Thanks for all the information guys! I got the exact e-mail like the one bluebirdjones posted here. Tsk...tsk...tsk. Too bad people actually need to waste time and effort just to hurt people.


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