My Country too

[Alan]

Agree with Apo. My wife and I are coming up for 2 years of marriage and I am nowhere nearer bringing her to the UK than I was when we were married. (In fact, further away.)

So, the UK is missing a bloody good teacher (Well, if I don't say it, nobody will) and is also missing a girl who works SOOO hard!!!

Still, rules is rules - we have to abide by them I suppose - unless you are a criminal, then it appears that the law is on your side!

Mini rant over. Happy Easter.

Al.

[joebloggs]

"the cctv camaras are there for your safty" really! They are there to watch all you do and if it is not PC then you are in it up to your neck, I used to think all the conspircy stuff was nonsence till i happened to be put in the position that i was on the radar, then i saw the true picture. Like that poor guy was walking home and the police man threw him to the ground for nothing it goes on all the time.

if not for all the cameras,press and cctv that poor guy would not have been caught on film being hit and pushed by the plod

I think marriage has often been abused for economic gain.
There have been so many false marriages in the past to get people into the UK, and other "wealthy" countries with respect to third world countries.

I just don't understand why it costs us £500+ to get our documents checked.

(Hi badgrimly, just a suggestion: please break your paragraph into sentences....much easier to read......Thanks)

that's still going on now,more than ever,your getting non Europeans (many overstayers, people illegally here, students) marrying brits/ but mainly eastern Europeans in the UK, taking advantage of EC immigration laws, COA now free, past immigration history doesn't count -ok if you broke British immigration law, cost of the family permit is free, they don't even have to go back to their own country - but you would if you were married to a brit. stay married for 3yrs and you can stay for good and oh then get divorced

it will cost you more than £500, you got ilr to pay for, citizenship.. but your lucky, its cost me nearly £5000, for the misses and kids in visa fees. and because she's married to a brit and not a european, another £3000 to be allowed do the job shes trained most of her life for

seeing your in northern Ireland have you got a Irish and British passport ? if so use the EC route to get your wife here, its free and easier

Agree with Apo. My wife and I are coming up for 2 years of marriage and I am nowhere nearer bringing her to the UK than I was when we were married. (In fact, further away.)

So, the UK is missing a bloody good teacher (Well, if I don't say it, nobody will) and is also missing a girl who works SOOO hard!!!

Still, rules is rules - we have to abide by them I suppose - unless you are a criminal, then it appears that the law is on your side!

i didn't know your wife was a teacher Al

another 2 years Al (4yrs of being married outside the uk) things will be a bit easier for you to come back to the uk.

as for rules, there are few if your a european in the uk, but many if your a brit

[adam&chryss]

I agree with your sentiments there, it does seem wrong.
As far as the guy in London is concerned, he was a drunk alcoholic that hung around for 1 hour and 20 mins AFTER being told to go home by the police.
No one deserves to die and I know that but for christs sake if the police ask you to move on DONT stay there for another hour or so.
Also wasn`t it outside the Bank of England?
If so well thats in the city and he didnt look like a city worker so i`m not sure about the "way home " bit!
I dont know why its so hard for Filipinos to come here, they arnt terrorists and dont cause trouble.
It makes you sick when you hear about people being arrested in the north west on terrorist charges who gained student visas and such just to come here and cause trouble yet your wife has to prove so many things to the authorities.
Good luck with that, I hope it goes well for you and once shes there with you it`ll all be worth it!

[joebloggs]

As far as the guy in London is concerned, he was a drunk alcoholic that hung around for 1 hour and 20 mins AFTER being told to go home by the police.

i thought the cops boxed everyone in and stopped them going any where, it showed on the news he tired to get home, but all the streets were blocked by the cops.

as for being a drunk alcoholic, you've not been in his shoes, so you don't why he ended up like that. might not be all his fault..

It makes you sick when you hear about people being arrested in the north west on terrorist charges who gained student visas and such just to come here and cause trouble yet your wife has to prove so many things to the authorities.

now the Pakistani gov said the British gov should have asked them to do checks on them b4 being granted a visa as they don't,, now my misses was told her delay was caused by local checks, and i know others have been given the same excuse why their visa is taking so long,,

i thought these local checks would have been with the phils police, looking at this, it turns out it might not be , so what local checks can the embassy in the phils do on my wife without the help of the phils local or national police.. the excuse is a load of

[adam&chryss]

i thought the cops boxed everyone in and stopped them going any where, it showed on the news he tired to get home, but all the streets were blocked by the cops.

as for being a drunk alcoholic, you've not been in his shoes, so you don't why he ended up like that. might not be all his fault..



now the Pakistani gov said the British gov should have asked them to do checks on them b4 being granted a visa as they don't,, now my misses was told her delay was caused by local checks, and i know others have been given the same excuse why their visa is taking so long,,

i thought these local checks would have been with the phils police, looking at this, it turns out it might not be , so what local checks can the embassy in the phils do on my wife without the help of the phils local or national police.. the excuse is a load of

You`re quite right I havnt been in his shoes, thats fair.
I`m using the stereotype of drunken Millwall fans that i`ve met in my time of watching local football.
I`m sorry he`s dead, and i`m sure his 9 kids are too.
My point is more that being an alcoholic smoker is more than likely the cause of his death, not a push or a thump.
Anyway, back to the original subject.
Good luck with your wife Mr Badgrimly!

[keithAngel]

My point is more that being an alcoholic smoker is more than likely the cause of his death, not a push or a thump.

I havnt the film of him pouring whiskey over his head and bursting into flames is it on U Tube?

[adam&chryss]

I havnt the film of him pouring whiskey over his head and bursting into flames is it on U Tube?

I was led to beleive that being an alcoholic and a smoker was bad for the heart, like it could cause a heart attack?
Must be wrong.....
Better get down the off-licence now

[somebody]

You`re quite right I havnt been in his shoes, thats fair.
I`m using the stereotype of drunken Millwall fans that i`ve met in my time of watching local football.
I`m sorry he`s dead, and i`m sure his 9 kids are too.
My point is more that being an alcoholic smoker is more than likely the cause of his death, not a push or a thump.
Anyway, back to the original subject.
Good luck with your wife Mr Badgrimly!

Whats Drunken millwall fans got to do with being trapped in a part of London?

So when you went to those football matchs you never saw the police taking off their number tags (the way you can ID them).
I have been to football matches all over the UK and the most scary people at the games are nearly always a section of the Police who are up for a bit of a row.
Of course there are football fans who like to be idiots.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6078095.ece

Sorry a Police officer whacking a bloke who from two camera angles appear to say or do nothing apart from not moving out of the way quickly enough deserved to get it.
Yes a whack from a really scared police officer surrounded by plenty of other police officers agasint a Indivudal. Who decided with all his might to whack a man walking away from him.

I have seen the news stand that he worked on numerious times and never seen any gentleman i felt cor they need a good whacking by a police man.

He wore a Millwall shirt maybe because he's in the east end just a few miles from the ground, funnily enough not all cardiff fans, man utd, west ham, chelsea, leeds utd, stoke, liverpool, everton shirt wearers are up for trouble just as are not all millwall fans. Normaly as a football match goer your know its the "shirts" or "scarfers" who dont give or make any trouble for others.
Its the ones who dont wear Football shirts or any thing related to their club in plain clothes who cause the grief in the majority of cases.

Sadly the police do seem to like sterotypes Ie all Black men are criminals, dark skined people maybe a bomber.Lets hope Filipino/a's dont become a group of intrest if the MILF decide to venture outside of Phil?

So possibly to cut the NHS medical bill all those who drink over 21 units a week or smoke should be after they finish work and try to get home should be stuck in a kettle formation blocked at every point of exit they want to use and then when their back is turned whacked by a Policeman by a riot baton.
I venture to say many of us dont suffer this on the way home from our place of work.

Possibly we could reduce the NHS bill? Just whack in the back to anybody who Drinks or smokes. If your healthly enough you may recover if not well you may have been a burden on the NHS.

I mean shame he had nine kids as you say deprived of their Father

Hopefully the murderer in a uniform will say sorry to all nine of them? Yes the Police man who cant control his temper and it seems a coward. Who somehow forgot it whacked a man in the back and so did his command as shortly afterwards he is shown talking to a senior officer and cowering.


Peace love and have a happy easter but dont belive all you hear from the police, I have met many good officers in fact I know some wonderful human beings who are active police officers but even they would admit that they have a lot of issues both with officers who dont act as they should do and possibly even worse many more who cover up and dont snitch if a officer mucks up

I have a high regard for the police in the UK but sadly from knowledge know to never presume the police were the innocent party when stories like these appear

[joebloggs]

I have a high regard for the police in the UK but sadly from knowledge know to never presume the police were the innocent party when stories like these appear

in the same week a police officer was in court doing nearly 100 mph without lights on in a 30 zone, killing a teenage girl.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...2703-23351027/

no one, not even police officers should be above the law

[adam&chryss]

Whats Drunken millwall fans got to do with being trapped in a part of London?

So when you went to those football matchs you never saw the police taking off their number tags (the way you can ID them).
I have been to football matches all over the UK and the most scary people at the games are nearly always a section of the Police who are up for a bit of a row.
Of course there are football fans who like to be idiots.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6078095.ece

Sorry a Police officer whacking a bloke who from two camera angles appear to say or do nothing apart from not moving out of the way quickly enough deserved to get it.
Yes a whack from a really scared police officer surrounded by plenty of other police officers agasint a Indivudal. Who decided with all his might to whack a man walking away from him.

I have seen the news stand that he worked on numerious times and never seen any gentleman i felt cor they need a good whacking by a police man.

He wore a Millwall shirt maybe because he's in the east end just a few miles from the ground, funnily enough not all cardiff fans, man utd, west ham, chelsea, leeds utd, stoke, liverpool, everton shirt wearers are up for trouble just as are not all millwall fans. Normaly as a football match goer your know its the "shirts" or "scarfers" who dont give or make any trouble for others.
Its the ones who dont wear Football shirts or any thing related to their club in plain clothes who cause the grief in the majority of cases.

Sadly the police do seem to like sterotypes Ie all Black men are criminals, dark skined people maybe a bomber.Lets hope Filipino/a's dont become a group of intrest if the MILF decide to venture outside of Phil?

So possibly to cut the NHS medical bill all those who drink over 21 units a week or smoke should be after they finish work and try to get home should be stuck in a kettle formation blocked at every point of exit they want to use and then when their back is turned whacked by a Policeman by a riot baton.
I venture to say many of us dont suffer this on the way home from our place of work.

Possibly we could reduce the NHS bill? Just whack in the back to anybody who Drinks or smokes. If your healthly enough you may recover if not well you may have been a burden on the NHS.

I mean shame he had nine kids as you say deprived of their Father

Hopefully the murderer in a uniform will say sorry to all nine of them? Yes the Police man who cant control his temper and it seems a coward. Who somehow forgot it whacked a man in the back and so did his command as shortly afterwards he is shown talking to a senior officer and cowering.


Peace love and have a happy easter but dont belive all you hear from the police, I have met many good officers in fact I know some wonderful human beings who are active police officers but even they would admit that they have a lot of issues both with officers who dont act as they should do and possibly even worse many more who cover up and dont snitch if a officer mucks up

I have a high regard for the police in the UK but sadly from knowledge know to never presume the police were the innocent party when stories like these appear

I said I stereotyped him. The Millwall fans I encountered whilst watching my local football team were in Cray, kent. Millwall didnt have a game and there wernt any police there. So they decided to come to the game and 20 of them set upon 2 of our fans. Very nice of them.
And as I also said his kids dont deserve to lose a father, which they dont.