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    Quote Originally Posted by Eljohno View Post
    Aposhark,
    while i respect your right to your view i think its unfair for you to say what Christians believe is nonsense.!!
    I did not single out Christianity if you read what I wrote.

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    Many people on here do believe in Jesus Christ but do not shove it down peoples throats..!!
    I beg to differ.......You are advertising a religious website in your signature.

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    Anyway i am not persist like you say and i have learnt to keep my views on Christianity on here to myself and only share with those people who are interested..!!
    That is how it should be.........

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    Happy Easter to everyone!!
    Happy Holiday to you too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    I did not single out Christianity if you read what I wrote.



    I beg to differ.......You are advertising a religious website in your signature.



    That is how it should be.........


    Happy Holiday to you too.

    Give me a break how is my signature shoving Christianity down peoples throats? Am i making anyone read it? Anyway the reason for this is that the church i got married in burnt to the ground so come back with something more solid.

    Fact - Philippines is a catholic country so (not me included) most on here that are from there are Catholic so how can you expect them never to mention God on here?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eljohno View Post
    Fact - Philippines is a catholic country so (not me included) most on here that are from there are Catholic so how can you expect them never to mention God on here?
    Correction:
    The majority of the Philippine people are Catholics (because their parents made them so!), the country is not.
    Same with Britain, the country is NOT Christian, it is of no religion, but a minority of the people are Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    ..thread about religion before and many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense.
    Got any numbers to back that claim? Did you do a survey?


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Got any numbers to back that claim? Did you do a survey?
    Read the comments on the thread again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Read the comments on the thread again.
    Perhaps you'd like to point me to the post in that thread that proves your point that in your words "many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense". What post number on the other thread has the figures I'm looking for? The post number would be the "#" followed by a number in the green bar right above where it states "join date".


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Perhaps you'd like to point me to the post in that thread that proves your point that in your words "many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense". What post number on the other thread has the figures I'm looking for? The post number would be the "#" followed by a number in the green bar right above where it states "join date".
    Rob,
    You have asked me a similar question before, and I supplied you with some information about the decline of the church.
    You can google "uk church attendances" and see for yourself.
    It really doesn't serve any purpose for me to try to point out to you that a lot of people on this forum do not believe in God or religion and Christianity is a religion.
    If you cannot see that for yourself, then not only do we differ in our stance on whether there is a God, we also don't agree that when we read lots of posts, that there are plainly many who have no time for church.
    There really isn't any point in going over the same old ground, again.
    A lady started this thread about "He Is Dead".
    Now, for many of us, "He" never existed, so how can he die?
    SHOW ME THE PROOF. If you cannot, there is no point in you continuing.

    So, I will not continue ad infinitum with these pointless meanderings.
    I will leave you with a quote on religion from a far more learned man, Sigmund Freud:

    The whole thing is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the great majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Perhaps you'd like to point me to the post in that thread that proves your point that in your words "many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense". What post number on the other thread has the figures I'm looking for? The post number would be the "#" followed by a number in the green bar right above where it states "join date".
    Have you turned into a politician? Plaid Cymru the Welsh BNP?

    I know from past experience on here that the majority of British guys on here, don't believe the twaddle, and that ties in with the official Brit figures from media polls.

    Now take a happy pill, and say a prayer that the good Lord helps Liverpool put 4 past Chelsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    For Walesrob.........Christianity on its knees
    Maybe you'd like to explain to me why the local Catholic Church in Aberystwyth is packed full during mass on Sunday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Maybe you'd like to explain to me why the local Catholic Church in Aberystwyth is packed full during mass on Sunday.
    Where else can they go in Abertwitwith?
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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Maybe you'd like to explain to me why the local Catholic Church in Aberystwyth is packed full during mass on Sunday.
    Aberystwyth is not exactly a large busy place.
    My best friend for many years was from Porthmadoc, and he told me all along that coast there is big alcoholism problems as there is nothing else to do.
    He is a Welshman, and he has never been to church in his life.
    There is a link, get it?


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    Irobot..." Sunny... Different From The Rest..."

    More wars been Started over religion than any thing...

    So,..why don`t we all just leave that can of worms for another day and just except we are all have a different up bringing and Countries of origin with different beliefs or it will all kick off won`t it.. ps...Happy Easter Every Bunny......Phil...
    ...A wild bird should never be caged as it breaks it`s spirit...The cage door is always open...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy_Now View Post
    HE died on FRIDAY
    but HIS tomb is empty SATURDAY

    Where is He???

    If you cant find HIM yet in your heart
    then HE is looking for you!

    SUNDAY; JESUS is alive!!!


    He died for us guys
    because He Loves us!!!

    Happy Easter SUNDAY!!!

    Don't make promises when you are in JOY. Don't reply when you are SAD.
    Don't take decisions when you are ANGRY. Think twice, Act wise. BE happy.


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    Cup of tea anyone?


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Cup of tea anyone?
    can I join u Mod? with one sugar pls.


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    Ok, ok, I am all for live and let live....

    So my suggestion would be very easy and understandable by all and sundry....

    We have lots of people on the forum that rightly or wrongly believe and have views in a certain faith, and obviously like to talk and share that with each other.

    So if anybody else that doesn't share in those views would refrain from posting on the threads would be of great help.
    Nobody is making you to...
    Join in if you wish, but don't criticize because it could make some posters upset.

    Only a couple of centavos worth....


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
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    Only a couple of centavos worth....
    you should be using euro cents or pennies dom

    and you know where you can put your euros




    time to feed the kids


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    Smile

    I thought Elvis was God!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    Ok, ok, I am all for live and let live....

    So my suggestion would be very easy and understandable by all and sundry....

    We have lots of people on the forum that rightly or wrongly believe and have views in a certain faith, and obviously like to talk and share that with each other.

    So if anybody else that doesn't share in those views would refrain from posting on the threads would be of great help.
    Nobody is making you to...
    Join in if you wish, but don't criticize because it could make some posters upset.

    Only a couple of centavos worth....
    OK Dom,
    I am a little baffled now.

    So is right for people to talk about religion, and not right for other people who do not believe to ask them to stop?

    Now I know you are a moderator, as are walesrob and the boss of course.
    You three have differing views about this, that is the nature of freedom and self-expression.
    Moderation should be to allow free comments and thoughts from everyone, shouldn't it?
    If religion is constantly mentioned without rebuttal, then they have their moment in the sun.
    Everybody has free speech and that is why this forum works.
    To silence anyone smacks of censorship to me.

    I would like to know why I or anyone else is not allowed to dispute what Keith calls "mythical stories".

    I am offended when religion is mentioned because in my life I have seen religion cause more pain and grief than any other single thing.
    I have worked in 42 countries and been to 30 others too, and the only constant source of problems is the firmly set beliefs of all people of religion to dismiss other religions without proper discourse, and furthermore to even kill for these "correct" beliefs.
    If non-believers are silenced, there is less hope that zealots curb their bigotry.

    Albert Einstein

    "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religion than it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

    "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism."

    "I do not believe in the immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it."

    "If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed."

    -Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    OK Dom,
    I am a little baffled now.

    .
    No need to be baffled, mate.

    Everyone is entitled to views and opinions, the quip and the joke and openess of debate.

    I respect your views on being an atheist, it is your right to do so.
    And my post wasn't directed at you personally, but at people in general that criticize others beliefs and ridicule them.
    I was brought up on a diet of sunday mass, communion, confession and all the mumbo jumbo it entailed, and always fought against it with teeth and nails, because I thought I always had better and more fun things to do on a sunday morning instead.
    I haven't changed much, but I will not stand in my wife's way if she wants to go to church and worship, but I will actually join her, and while there, although I am not the most religious of persons, I will do a bit of reflecting myself.

    What will you do when your good lady arrives???
    Will you forbid her to pray???
    Will you stop her from going to church???

    It is give and take.



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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Cup of tea anyone?
    ....and God created sheep for the Welsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    ....and God created sheep for the Welsh
    and Ford created cars for you to nick hubcaps


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    What sort of Soap do you all use I like coal tar myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    What sort of Soap do you all use I like coal tar myself
    that stuff stinks


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    that stuff stinks
    What do you use Joe
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    Where's Aposhark???????...Has he been struck down by lightning?


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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    What do you use Joe
    fairy soap, what else

    i suppose your soap keeps the mozzies away


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    My final contributions on this topic are founded upon a reiteration of my assertion that love and respect should be maintained by ALL parties when discussing. Obviously, we all have differing interpretaions of what that means in practice and how they ought to be applied, so further elucidation would be redundant.

    We are all entitled to our own theories of knowledge but it is difficult to debate when one's views are in opposition to those of any individual that postulates dismissively and with a conviction explicitly founded upon oxymora and propositions the veracity of which, are in my view, at best doubtful.

    Further, the definitions of qualitative and empirical 'proof' or 'evidence' are not as simple as some might believe; rather they are expansive and much broader than we can accomodate in this thread!

    It's a great day; I'm now gonna cuddle my wife and baby.

    Peace to all!
    Be responsible with little so that you can be trusted with much!!
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    Hi Piamed.

    Leave the religious brow-beating out of threads and we will get on well.
    The point is non-believers don't want to debate.

    Richard Lederer: There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages.

    Enjoy your beautiful baby girl......


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