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    Peshawar,nice place Everyones got their own views of religion,be they christian,muslim,anamist whatever,I think it was a originally a man-made concept to control the masses hence the 10 commandments,but I am never going to force this personal opinion on anyone,I do however think christianity in Pinas is a money-spinner for the head-honchos in the church


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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyHon View Post
    Could you please explain (briefly) to the billions of followers of Islam and other religions why they are all wrong and you are right? You can't all be right. I suspect they could come up with long lists too.

    And how likely is it that you would reach the same conclusion if you were born and grew up in Peshawar?
    Dude, why would I attempt to explain something I never said or believe? Please do note that, as I previously stated, the list of references pertains to the Boss's comment about proof of Jesus existing. Come on now mate, make it easier for me - stay on point.

    In addition, as I alluded to on earlier posts, I focus where I can, on homogeniety rather than the converse. I said that Islam accepts that Jesus existed and was a prophet; in this I am correct and accurate. My understanding is that they believe Jesus was the last prophet before Mohammed 600 years later.

    I pray with my very devout Muslim friends and friends of other denominations which I would not be able to do if I thought I was right about everything and they were wrong. Remember, I love everyone. I may disagree with or dislike the actions of some folk but I love them just the same. No matter what you may think Jesus loves you; I'm trying really hard.
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    The effect Jesus had on the world greatly surpasses that of anyone else in history.

    Again. Where is the proof of this statement? It cannot be proved beyond reasonable doubt.
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    There are many athiests such as Dawkins who believe it can!!!!!!!!!!!
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    never get to heaven on an ism skism

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTxUxFjLB0

    Tocs what soap do you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithAngel View Post
    :Tocs what soap do you use?
    you make me laugh Mr keithAngel,they are on debate of religion,yet you are there asking what kind of soap they are using


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs.JMajor View Post
    you make me laugh Mr keithAngel,they are on debate of religion,yet you are there asking what kind of soap they are using
    magandang segway ba, hehehe Di na kasi natapos debate eh


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    magandang segway ba, hehehe Di na kasi natapos debate eh
    Yeah !Its obvious thou.... that british are 50/50 non believer/believer


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs.JMajor View Post
    you make me laugh Mr keithAngel,they are on debate of religion,yet you are there asking what kind of soap they are using
    Well I've heard it said often that 'Cleanliness is next to godliness'


    It never used to work on me when my mother used it to try and get me in the bath as a kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piamed View Post
    There are many athiests such as Dawkins who believe it can!!!!!!!!!!!
    Belief is not proof.
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    Wasn't it the Christians luck that Constantine took it up and it seemed somehow similar enough to solar monotheism or what ever it was called. So many Romans who believed in the various pagan rituals, the meeting on the day of the sun and praying facing the east. Which I belived they were more concerned about at the time? I maybe wrong im no theologian

    Possibly like many companies/products some catch on lets say coke cola,microsoft,VHS and the iphone. When other rivals failed, not just because they were the best but for various reasons and good fortune.

    In Christianity possibly the fact it incorporated most of the local festivals the locals celebrated rather than said this is the only way.

    Why every Christian festival I remember from school also had a pagan equivalent and many of the "meanings" were taken from the Pagan beliefs it seems to little ol me.

    So I guess yeah I can equate Jesus as Seattle Computer Products and Constantine as Bill gates and Microsoft.

    So could it be that the cult of Jesus was handy at the time and though this that and the other ended up what it is to day?

    That it could of been one of any other cults knocking about at the time which may have taken its place and may or may not have had the same effect?

    A huge company took over and marketed it strongly? Mircosoft equals Rome.

    I guess at least Rome didn't inflict Win me and Vista on us


    Just as now you see People following the cult of MS and Apple and other brands and identies. Many people need to feel a part of a group, as a type of person, while others like to try and infulence people for the good and bad.

    I wonder what people will be following in two thousand years. The Guru Gates or oh wise one Beckham
    Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops


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    All religions pass into oblivion eventually, history always repeats itself a bit like a our local curry house
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    ooopppssss are you having a fight guys
    to loved and beloved is the greatest joy on earth...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Daddy View Post
    ooopppssss are you having a fight guys
    Hindi amiga. Not at all; I respect JudyHon and only query him on things I don't quite follow and he has often been gracious enough to answer and seek to clarify the same.

    I'm a lover not a fighter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piamed View Post
    Hindi amiga. Not at all; I respect JudyHon and only query him on things I don't quite follow and he has often been gracious enough to answer and seek to clarify the same.

    I'm a lover not a fighter!
    Michael Jackson - The girl is mine 1982
    to loved and beloved is the greatest joy on earth...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Daddy View Post
    ooopppssss are you having a fight guys
    Marriage Counseling Session
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
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    to loved and beloved is the greatest joy on earth...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Daddy View Post
    ooopppssss are you having a fight guys
    Not handbags at thirty paces just yet.

    Was just trying to press a point over an apparent basic inconsistency in the two main religions/texts quoted. Trying to express the doubts I have over the reliability of the ancient texts as a source of beliefs.

    It's a result of my job - I spend much of my time investigating corrupt government records in different countries to identify frauds and financial record manipulation by which officials steal from their people. Boring I know, but it could explain the level of my expectations for sufficient, reliable, relevant evidence to form judgements on reasonableness and plausibility.

    Actually, being an Essex Boy (originally), I don't think I have ever been called gracious in my life, and I feel a rapprochement coming on....
    S J



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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyHon View Post
    It's a result of my job - I spend much of my time investigating corrupt government records in different countries to identify frauds and financial record manipulation by which officials steal from their people. Boring I know, but it could explain the level of my expectations for sufficient, reliable, relevant evidence to form judgements on reasonableness and plausibility.

    Actually, being an Essex Boy (originally), I don't think I have ever been called gracious in my life, and I feel a rapprochement coming on....
    maybe you've never had enough of a reason or suffered enough to believe in god, unlike some people who suffered or witnessed the evil of man or nature

    http://photosthatchangedtheworld.com/ warning some pics may upset some

    thou for me, it makes me wonder why god lets this happen and maybe there isn't one


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    wow it's page 10 now...


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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post
    wow it's page 10 now...


    I'm going to ask a question that has puzzled me, my mom use to tell me as a kid, that if you believed in god and were good you would go to heaven and you would live for ever ..

    now this is what i find difficult to understand, how could you live for ever, would each year in heaven be like 100 earth years? would you be a teenager for like 800 earth years? like in the simpsons bart looks the same as he did 20yrs ago..

    help someone


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    ....that if you believed in god and were good you would go to heaven and you would live for ever .. .
    Stupid boy. You live in his Domain for infinity, which means no end, and if that is the case then their was no beginning either, as infinity has to exist in both directions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Stupid boy. You live in his Domain for infinity, which means no end, and if that is the case then their was no beginning either, as infinity has to exist in both directions.

    For a moment you sounded like "Rimmer"......



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    One of the central themes of Watchtower Society theology, and the promised reward for the activities of Jehovah's Witnesses, is the possibility of living forever on an earth that has been restored by God to its original paradisiacal condition. One of the most popular and influential books by the Watchtower Society, You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth, is used by Witnesses to attract new members to the Society. Its color pictures portray a world in which contented Jehovah's Witnesses live in a lush garden with perfect health and in perfect peace.

    what you talking about domains for , only domains i know are www.babesinparadise.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    For a moment you sounded like "Rimmer"......

    'Stupid boy. You live in his Domain for infinity, which means no end, and if that is the case then their was no beginning either, as infinity has to exist in both directions.'

    Rimmer? I thought Captain Mainwaring from Dad's Army? Shut up, Pike!

    Gotta love The Dwarf though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post
    wow it's page 10 now...
    THIS THREAD IS LIKE A SOAP OPERA WHICH I'VE BEEN ADDICTED TO AND CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. THIS MAY LAST AS LONG AS CORONATION STREET


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    How would you think it could have ended if the crucifixion drama had been set in and around Cardiff???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post
    THIS THREAD IS LIKE A SOAP OPERA WHICH I'VE BEEN ADDICTED TO AND CANNOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. THIS MAY LAST AS LONG AS CORONATION STREET
    Coronation Street is the longest running soap on tv and
    He is Dead is the longest running thread in the forum....(now on the 10th page)
    " The people who mean something to your life are not rated "the best" don't have the most money, haven't won the greatest prizes....
    They are the ones who care about you, take care of you, those who, no matter what, stay close by... "


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    I don't think they have no God. Why evertime they feel shocked/ happy they shouted the words :
    OH MY GOD! Oh MY GoD!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    I don't think they have no God. Why evertime they feel shocked/ happy they shouted the words :
    OH MY GOD! Oh MY GoD!!!

    Hi friendship yeah youre right ! oh my god !!!


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