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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    ..thread about religion before and many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense.
    Got any numbers to back that claim? Did you do a survey?


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Got any numbers to back that claim? Did you do a survey?
    Read the comments on the thread again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Read the comments on the thread again.
    Perhaps you'd like to point me to the post in that thread that proves your point that in your words "many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense". What post number on the other thread has the figures I'm looking for? The post number would be the "#" followed by a number in the green bar right above where it states "join date".


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Perhaps you'd like to point me to the post in that thread that proves your point that in your words "many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense". What post number on the other thread has the figures I'm looking for? The post number would be the "#" followed by a number in the green bar right above where it states "join date".
    Rob,
    You have asked me a similar question before, and I supplied you with some information about the decline of the church.
    You can google "uk church attendances" and see for yourself.
    It really doesn't serve any purpose for me to try to point out to you that a lot of people on this forum do not believe in God or religion and Christianity is a religion.
    If you cannot see that for yourself, then not only do we differ in our stance on whether there is a God, we also don't agree that when we read lots of posts, that there are plainly many who have no time for church.
    There really isn't any point in going over the same old ground, again.
    A lady started this thread about "He Is Dead".
    Now, for many of us, "He" never existed, so how can he die?
    SHOW ME THE PROOF. If you cannot, there is no point in you continuing.

    So, I will not continue ad infinitum with these pointless meanderings.
    I will leave you with a quote on religion from a far more learned man, Sigmund Freud:

    The whole thing is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the great majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Rob,
    You have asked me a similar question before, and I supplied you with some information about the decline of the church.

    You said "...many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense." I asked you how many on this forum, but you could not supply that information. You don't speak for me, you don't speak for Kimmi, Ginapeterb and the 1000's of other members of this forum. Don't make claims you can't justify.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    You said "...many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense." I asked you how many on this forum, but you could not supply that information. You don't speak for me, you don't speak for Kimmi, Ginapeterb and the 1000's of other members of this forum. Don't make claims you can't justify.
    Ok let it be said that i suggested this thread be closed as people will just go around in circles and its obvious that nothing anyone will say will have any effect on aposhark.

    Also quoting people like Mark Twain and giving a link from some Atheist site will have 100% no effect on a true believer.

    But i agree with Rob your statement that most on here think its nonsense is based on fiction not fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eljohno View Post
    Ok let it be said that i suggested this thread be closed as people will just go around in circles and its obvious that nothing anyone will say will have any effect on aposhark.

    Also quoting people like Mark Twain and giving a link from some Atheist site will have 100% no effect on a true believer.

    But i agree with Rob your statement that most on here think its nonsense is based on fiction not fact.
    Eljohno, why do you misquote what I typed?

    I said MANY not MOST....................


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    You said "...many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense." I asked you how many on this forum, but you could not supply that information. You don't speak for me, you don't speak for Kimmi, Ginapeterb and the 1000's of other members of this forum. Don't make claims you can't justify.
    Read the forum again and SEE that many are non-religious.

    I DON'T WANT to speak for you, I speak for myself and what I see.

    This is a forum about Filipina(o)s mostly meeting and marrying Brits, then finally coming to live in a mostly religion-free country.
    That, is just the way it is.
    You cannot change it and neither can anyone else.
    My wife knows I do not believe in God, religion, Jesus or any other fable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Perhaps you'd like to point me to the post in that thread that proves your point that in your words "many people on this forum do NOT believe any of this nonsense". What post number on the other thread has the figures I'm looking for? The post number would be the "#" followed by a number in the green bar right above where it states "join date".
    Have you turned into a politician? Plaid Cymru the Welsh BNP?

    I know from past experience on here that the majority of British guys on here, don't believe the twaddle, and that ties in with the official Brit figures from media polls.

    Now take a happy pill, and say a prayer that the good Lord helps Liverpool put 4 past Chelsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
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    Now take a happy pill, and say a prayer that the good Lord helps Liverpool put 4 past Chelsea
    My husband says here that the lord listened to your prayer and liverpool scored 4 goals but too bad chelsea scored more


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    Just because Einstein said there is a god, doesn't mean that there is one.

    Voltaire once said "if there was no god it would be necessary to create him"

    In other words some people need something to explain why we are here/what life is for.

    Mikhila Bakunin wrote "if there was a god it would be necessary to abolish him"

    He also wrote "People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupefy themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy."

    Try reading "God and the state" by Bakunin or "Twelve Proofs of the Non-existence of God" by Sebastien Faure for a reasoned debate on the whole subject (and a bit more).

    For me, religion is a form of oppression, to keep the poor in line and teach them not to question the establishment by promising a reward after death which is something they can not promise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    For Walesrob.........Christianity on its knees
    Maybe you'd like to explain to me why the local Catholic Church in Aberystwyth is packed full during mass on Sunday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Maybe you'd like to explain to me why the local Catholic Church in Aberystwyth is packed full during mass on Sunday.
    Where else can they go in Abertwitwith?
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    Quote Originally Posted by walesrob View Post
    Maybe you'd like to explain to me why the local Catholic Church in Aberystwyth is packed full during mass on Sunday.
    Aberystwyth is not exactly a large busy place.
    My best friend for many years was from Porthmadoc, and he told me all along that coast there is big alcoholism problems as there is nothing else to do.
    He is a Welshman, and he has never been to church in his life.
    There is a link, get it?


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