He Is Dead

[Pepe n Pilar]

This is taken from the Life in the Uk Test Official Publication - the very book applicants for LTR must study.

'Although the Uk is historically a Christian society, everyone has a legal right to practise the religion of their choice. In the 2001 census, just over 75% said they had a religion; 7 out of 10 of these were Christians. There were also a considerable number of people who followed other religions. Although many people in the UK say they hold religious beliefs, currently only around 10% of the population attend religious services. More attend services in Scotland and Northern Ireland than in England and Wales. In London, the number of people who attend religious services is increasing.

Religions in the UK %
Christian (10% of whom are RC) 71.6
Muslim 2.7
Hindu 1.0
Sikh 0.6
.....
No Religion 15.5

(c) Crown Copyright Published by TSO '


So who's telling the truth?

7 out of 10 believe in Christ!.......

[joebloggs]

7 out of 10 believe in Christ!.......

yes maybe, but how many go to church thou ?, and are they only, when it comes to weddings, christening, Easter and Xmas ??

[aromulus]

yes maybe, but how many go to church thou ?, and are they only, when it comes to weddings, christening, Easter and Xmas ??

Going to church really is neither here or there, if you think about it, as many people will regard as having Christ/God within....

[walesrob]

Going to church really is neither here or there, if you think about it, as many people will regard as having Christ/God within....

Yay Dom is right

Dom, you should be the next Pope.

[joebloggs]

Going to church really is neither here or there, if you think about it, as many people will regard as having Christ/God within....

if you ask someone if they are religious, you'll get many who say yes, but do they practise that religion ?

they believe in god, do they read the bible, do they go to church, do they practise what their religion says ??

you call yourself a Chelsea fan Dom, have you ever been to see them ? and go and ask those who have season tickets if they think you are a fan..

2 different answers

[aromulus]

i

you call yourself a Chelsea fan Dom, have you ever been to see them ?

Yes.
For many a year I was attending Earls court ideal home exhibition, and sometime I was able to sneak in a couple or three home matches. Looked a bit of a prat in suit and tie, but there you go, the sacrifices one has to make sometime....
Unfortunately I don't have the chance to get to London anymore or even being able to afford such a luxury as a footie ticket as other priorities have emerged.

[Alan]

Going to church really is neither here or there, if you think about it, as many people will regard as having Christ/God within....

Totally agree!!!

Al.

[Alan]

I feel that I have to make one post here - despite not wishing to 'elongate' a thread which, quite frankly, has made me rather upset.

I have said before, on a couple of occasions - can't be a****d to look through and find them - that Jesus came to us with a message - be good - love your enemies - treat everyone as you would be treated. In other words, let's all be nice to each other!!!

Whether you believe in Him or not, let's try to live by His message. Wouldn't it be GREAT if everyone in the world was nice to his/her neighbour? No more crime, no more shooting, no more wars, no more Oldham getting beaten!

I KNOW and appreciate that, humankind as it is, these wishes are 'impossible' to realise - BUT - you must agree, it is a Utopian ideal n'est-ce pas?

So, Christian, athiest, agnostic, Jew, Muslim - WHATEVER - surely everyone on here would love to live by Jesus' message!

Let's just all be friends PLEASE!! Sod the cups of tea - let's all have a few beers.

Al.

[aposhark]

I feel that I have to make one post here - despite not wishing to 'elongate' a thread which, quite frankly, has made me rather upset.

I have said before, on a couple of occasions - can't be a****d to look through and find them - that Jesus came to us with a message - be good - love your enemies - treat everyone as you would be treated. In other words, let's all be nice to each other!!!

Whether you believe in Him or not, let's try to live by His message. Wouldn't it be GREAT if everyone in the world was nice to his/her neighbour? No more crime, no more shooting, no more wars, no more Oldham getting beaten!

I KNOW and appreciate that, humankind as it is, these wishes are 'impossible' to realise - BUT - you must agree, it is a Utopian ideal n'est-ce pas?

So, Christian, athiest, agnostic, Jew, Muslim - WHATEVER - surely everyone on here would love to live by Jesus' message!

Let's just all be friends PLEASE!! Sod the cups of tea - let's all have a few beers.

Al.

I feel a song coming on.... "Imagine" by John Lennon...

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

[Sconnie]

I feel a song coming on.... "Imagine" by John Lennon...

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Great artist, fantastic song, great lyrics; pity you can't live by these ideals aposhark.
This song is all about tolerance a brotherhood of man, but from your posts I cannot see you having any tolerance for anyone who is religious.
That is a great shame.

[walesrob]

yes maybe, but how many go to church thou ?,

currently only around 10% of the population attend religious services.

[aposhark]

yes maybe, but how many go to church thou ?, and are they only, when it comes to weddings, christening, Easter and Xmas ??

He can go to speak to any church of any denomination and ask them about disappearing sheep, sorry, flock.

[walesrob]

He can go to speak to any church of any denomination and ask them about disappearing sheep, sorry, flock.

Ah I see, insults galore. As for English man John Lennon he was higher than a kite most of the time. The drugs dont work.

[aposhark]

Ah I see, insults galore. As for English man John Lennon he was higher than a kite most of the time. The drugs dont work.

Hahahahah, that has got to be one of the funniest retorts.
Go out in your town late at night and say bad things about Lennon.
I think you would end your night in a distressing way.....

[aposhark]

You see, I am just one of the millions of UK non-believers concerning religion.

If manic street preachers can spout off in the streets, then they have to realise that, living in a democratic society, non believers have the right to oppose them.

If people on this thread see fit to perpetuate religion, then equally they must expect an alternative viewpoint.

I for one will always speak up to limit religious propaganda anywhere, whatever the flavour.

I will forever say "show me some proof".
No matter what religious people's answers will be and no matter how they try to dress it up, there is and never will be any proof.

If people on here refrain from bringing up religion, I have no problem in keeping my views silent, I am sure others feel this way on here too.

The only problem is that religious people for some reason seem to want to spread their ideologies onto other folk. This is why they knock on people's doors all over the world in order to spread their beliefs.
People who do not believe do not waste their time knocking on people's doors, we are not in the slightest bit interested and live in this world.

Thankfully, in all the days I have lived in England, religion doesn't generally come into everyday conversation.

So, keep religion to yourselves and others like me will not have to take you to task. If religion is brought up again, then I will comment again.

It is simple.

Harmony goes hand in hand with respect, and respect means abstinence from religious ideology.

If all your family is religious, then talk about it all day and night to yourselves as it is quite a bore to others.

There are many marriages where both parties know how to aggravate each other if some buttons are pressed.
I have asked my wife to keep religion out of our conversations and she has agreed.
Likewise there will be topics that she will not want to discuss, and I will also button my lip and refrain for peace and happiness.

[JudyHon]

Ah I see, insults galore. As for English man John Lennon he was higher than a kite most of the time. The drugs dont work.

As Karl Marx said "Religion is the opiate of the masses". Don't get me started on the Flying Spaghetti Monster...

Very entertaining thread tho...

[aposhark]

....Don't get me started on the Flying Spaghetti Monster...

And.....?

Quick, take the flank and push that bloody ladder back.
Ouch! someone just bit me on the leg.
..............Incoming.................
Whiiiizzzzzzzzzzzz
That was close.
So where's that monster then?
We need him NOW!....