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    Quote Originally Posted by Piamed View Post
    Jesus Christ, is the central figure of Christianity and is revered by most Christian churches as the Son of God and the incarnation of God. Islam considers Jesus a prophet, and he is an important figure in several other religions.
    Could you please explain (briefly) to the billions of followers of Islam and other religions why they are all wrong and you are right? You can't all be right. I suspect they could come up with long lists too.

    And how likely is it that you would reach the same conclusion if you were born and grew up in Peshawar?

    On a lighter note, I hear there is $1,000,000 reward for anyone who can provide empirical proof that Jesus was not the son of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. It has yet to be claimed!

    The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster http://www.venganza.org/ Most amusing.
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    Peshawar,nice place Everyones got their own views of religion,be they christian,muslim,anamist whatever,I think it was a originally a man-made concept to control the masses hence the 10 commandments,but I am never going to force this personal opinion on anyone,I do however think christianity in Pinas is a money-spinner for the head-honchos in the church


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    Quote Originally Posted by JudyHon View Post
    Could you please explain (briefly) to the billions of followers of Islam and other religions why they are all wrong and you are right? You can't all be right. I suspect they could come up with long lists too.

    And how likely is it that you would reach the same conclusion if you were born and grew up in Peshawar?
    Dude, why would I attempt to explain something I never said or believe? Please do note that, as I previously stated, the list of references pertains to the Boss's comment about proof of Jesus existing. Come on now mate, make it easier for me - stay on point.

    In addition, as I alluded to on earlier posts, I focus where I can, on homogeniety rather than the converse. I said that Islam accepts that Jesus existed and was a prophet; in this I am correct and accurate. My understanding is that they believe Jesus was the last prophet before Mohammed 600 years later.

    I pray with my very devout Muslim friends and friends of other denominations which I would not be able to do if I thought I was right about everything and they were wrong. Remember, I love everyone. I may disagree with or dislike the actions of some folk but I love them just the same. No matter what you may think Jesus loves you; I'm trying really hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piamed View Post
    Dude, why would I attempt to explain something I never said or believe? Please do note that, as I previously stated, the list of references pertains to the Boss's comment about proof of Jesus existing. Come on now mate, make it easier for me - stay on point.
    Sorry - I think you misunderstood my point. Please let me clarify. You said previously

    'Jesus Christ, is the central figure of Christianity and is revered by most Christian churches as the Son of God and the incarnation of God. Islam considers Jesus a prophet, and he is an important figure in several other religions.'

    This is consistent with my understanding too.

    The Christian faith view is that Jesus was the Son of God and the incarnation of God. However Islam indicates Jesus to be one in a line of Prophets, but certainly neither the Son of God or the incarnation. To me this seems to be a very fundamental difference, not interpretation or semantics. If you are convinced he was the Son of God, then as I stated Muslims must be mistaken. If they are right and he was just a prophet, then Christians must be wrong. Ditto the other religions you mention.

    Hence my question on which one is correct... The Peshawar question follows from this also.

    If one or other view is wrong, then there is also a possibility that they are both wrong.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Again. Where is the proof of this statement? It cannot be proved beyond reasonable doubt.
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyHon View Post
    Sorry - I think you misunderstood my point. Please let me clarify. You said previously

    'Jesus Christ, is the central figure of Christianity and is revered by most Christian churches as the Son of God and the incarnation of God. Islam considers Jesus a prophet, and he is an important figure in several other religions.'

    This is consistent with my understanding too.

    The Christian faith view is that Jesus was the Son of God and the incarnation of God. However Islam indicates Jesus to be one in a line of Prophets, but certainly neither the Son of God or the incarnation. To me this seems to be a very fundamental difference, not interpretation or semantics. If you are convinced he was the Son of God, then as I stated Muslims must be mistaken. If they are right and he was just a prophet, then Christians must be wrong. Ditto the other religions you mention.

    Hence my question on which one is correct... The Peshawar question follows from this also.

    If one or other view is wrong, then there is also a possibility that they are both wrong.

    Thanks
    Ok I get it! Sure we may have differing beliefs but we don't debate on who is right or wrong but rather celebrate the fact that we have so much in common in terms of values. For example, raising families, being responsible and caring stewards with resources, etc. We also discuss misinterpretations of scripture from both sides.

    For example many people know that Islam calls for separate Islamic states. What few people know, who are not Muslim, is that it qualifies this by saying within the context of the prevailing law of the land. A very imporant misunderstanding in my opinion.

    I actually never thought of it in terms of wrongs and rights but simply my belief and the belief convergent in key areas and divergent in others.
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