Im new here............seeking for advice ....visa issues.......

[bornatbirth]

Dear Rutch,

First of all welcome here. You will be finding lots of great advices here, all your queries will be answered or simply using the search button helps.

We know where you're coming from... We know that you wanted to be here with your fiance/bf. As what they have mentioned above, there is no rush for you to come here especially now the Immigration Rules have changed regarding age.

You are 18 and even if you will apply for student visa, the ECO might/will still refuse you as the purpose of your application is to be with your bf/fiance.

Do not rush into things my friend. Take your time. Let your partner visit you again. As Tawitawi said, take a shortterm course or a college degree as this will help you in applying for a job once you are here. You do not want to be idle once you get here, do you? Enjoy your life while you are still young.

If your fiance/bf can wait then it is true love... If he can't then it's his loss!

Take care & bless you!



Just Me & My friendly advice,

very good advice,zobel

[trader dave]

ruthy

slow down i started my relationship in august 2007 in that time we have applied 3 times for visitors visa to get my fiancee into the uk the last time she had an interview with the british consol and he said your wasting your money trying to get into the uk via that route he advised i go there we get married then she will allowed to come here i also explained that i might be retiring to the philippies in a couple of years so we dont realy need a settlement visa he was not interested

so what i am saying is its not going to be easy for you because of your age restricions there is no quick fix slow down at least have a few more holidays together if he has a pc get yourselves on line every day

you have many trials to over come first

[pennybarry]

regarding to my age being 18.............i can marry here anytime in the phil but cant go to the uk yet until i get 21 of age............so its a worst to hear if this be the case

as same matters i dont have the chance for fiancee visa too


is the changes of rules in the uk already constant

You cannot marry anytime in the Philippines if you are 18!!!
No Priests, no Civil authorties will conduct your marriage unless
YOU have parental consent.

You cannot apply for any type of visa until you reached 21. If you have relative here, they can sponsor you for a visit visa but not the BF

So be patient. Enjoy being single. Study first so if you have studied even short courses, you can easily find job here. Did you know that even college graduate here are hard to get a proper job? That is if you want to work and help your hubby as everything here is shocking expensive.

[darren-b]

If you have relative here, they can sponsor you for a visit visa but not the BF

This isn't true, BFs can and have successfully sponsored their GF for visit visa. Though there is no guarantees it wil be granted.

[aromulus]

18 years old......

Visa chances........ Nil.....

Next.............

[joebloggs]

This isn't true, BFs can and have successfully sponsored their GF for visit visa. Though there is no guarantees it wil be granted.

and if you mention you want to see your b/f, there is a chance they will refuse you, because the embassy can say that's a major reason for not going back to the phils, as you have a b/f here..

you just can't win sometimes ..

but you could try for a visitor visa, thou it could well be refused and you could only stay 6 months in 1 yr

student visa you could try, but expensive and they are more difficult to get now, as it is points based.

but maybe your only hope, apart from waiting til your 21, is you get married, your husband then exercises his EU Treaty Rights in another EU country for a few months, and then uses the Surinder Singh route to return to the UK. After all there is nothing about the age 21 issue in the EU Directive, concerning freedom of movement for EU citizens and their family members.

In order to use the Surinder Singh route, your husband, as he would be, would need to be economically active in another EU state ..... employed or self-employed. if he could go and live in Ireland for a few months or longer until you get your family permit, and then you could come to the uk.

[rutchzzz143]

what if we will be marry here soon this year by september 2009
for the reason im on my age 18 so no chance to get a spousal visa till im at the age of 21......soooooooooooo i still have to wait for about 3 yrs to come b4r i reach 21 right?

so being a wife already i maybe can apply for a tourist visa temporarily

for the reason to come and visit my hubby and family

as my frnd did last year she is so succesful in getting visa at the age of 18 she is married in phil also w/ her british hubby.......but she came back to phil after 6 months


so myt be i have the chance to apply as tourist visa successfully???????????

[sunshine]

3 years of waiting is a very long time

[joebloggs]

what if we will be marry here soon this year by september 2009
for the reason im on my age 18 so no chance to get a spousal visa till im at the age of 21......soooooooooooo i still have to wait for about 3 yrs to come b4r i reach 21 right?

so being a wife already i maybe can apply for a tourist visa temporarily

for the reason to come and visit my hubby and family

as my frnd did last year she is so succesful in getting visa at the age of 18 she is married in phil also w/ her british hubby.......but she came back to phil after 6 months


so myt be i have the chance to apply as tourist visa successfully???????????

but maybe your only hope, apart from waiting til your 21, is you get married, your husband then exercises his EU Treaty Rights in another EU country for a few months, and then uses the Surinder Singh route to return to the UK. After all there is nothing about the age 21 issue in the EU Directive, concerning freedom of movement for EU citizens and their family members.

In order to use the Surinder Singh route, your husband, as he would be, would need to be economically active in another EU state ..... employed or self-employed. if he could go and live in Ireland for a few months or longer until you get your family permit, and then you could come to the uk.


the only other way is your husband goes and lives in ireland, spain , etc for 6months and applies for a family permit for you

[rutchzzz143]

yes sunshine

its too long time to wait till i can apply for spousal visa if be married here soon


soosoooooo


but maybe i can apply for tourist visa also

and then maybe have to sort for my degree more here being at my age while waiting



god's will


have to go in some agency by monday too

to ask for proff why they telling me and my fiancee that at the age of 18 it is still applicable for marriage visa to come in the uk

as i read in site its says different


emmmmmmmmmmmmm ill see wat lies a mess

[joebloggs]

you will be refused a settlement visa if your under 21, its the law, its not at the discretion of the embassy or a case worker.

people are now being refused for being under 21.

[rutchzzz143]

yes age is a conflict presently so i myt ned to wait till the ryt time


u mean here..............but maybe your only hope, apart from waiting til your 21, is you get married, your husband then exercises his EU Treaty Rights in another EU country for a few months, and then uses the Surinder Singh route to return to the UK. After all there is nothing about the age 21 issue in the EU Directive, concerning freedom of movement for EU citizens and their family members.

In order to use the Surinder Singh route, your husband, as he would be, would need to be economically active in another EU state ..... employed or self-employed. if he could go and live in Ireland for a few months or longer until you get your family permit, and then you could come to the uk.


the only other way is your husband goes and lives in ireland, spain , etc for 6months and applies for a family permit for you


I CAN HAVE THE CHANCE TO GO IN THE UK AS HIS WIFE EVEN IM UNDER 21


BUT TO APPLY FOR FAMILY PERMIT?

OR WAT WILL HE DO AS HE IS LIVING IN BLACKPOOL UK

[joebloggs]

he would have to go and live in another european country for at least 3 months and apply for a family permit using european law, not a spouse visa which is under British immigration law, as the over 21yr old only applies to people who apply under the British immigration system, not the european one..

not easy for many people to go and live in another european country, but some people do, they have a holiday home in spain or portugal, or can find a new job easily..

not easy but might be better than waiting 3yrs.. and family permit as mod dom will tell you cost nothing

http://www.ncadc.org.uk/archives/fil...ews17/don.html

[rutchzzz143]

he would have to go and live in another european country for at least 3 months and apply for a family permit using european law, not a spouse visa which is under British immigration law, as the over 21yr old only applies to people who apply under the British immigration system, not the european one..

not easy for many people to go and live in another european country, but some people do, they have a holiday home in spain or portugal, or can find a new job easily..

not easy but might be better than waiting 3yrs.. and family permit as mod dom will tell you cost nothing

http://www.ncadc.org.uk/archives/fil...ews17/don.html

SO WAT IS REQUIRED FOR ME TO APPLY OR INVITE ME AS FAMILY TO STAY W/ HIM..........AFTER HE WILL BE GIVEN A FAMILY PERMIT ALSO WHEN HE HAD STAY IN THE EUROPE AREAS.........WOULD IT BE APPLICABLE FOR US TO STAY BACK IN THE NORMAL RESIDENCE WHEN WE WILL BE GIVEN A FAMILY PERMIT TO STAY IN EUROPE?


EVEN THOUGH IM UNDER 21 I STILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO COME UNDER EUROPE LAW NOT BRITISH ONE?


EMMMMMMMM

[sunshine]

yes sunshine

its too long time to wait till i can apply for spousal visa if be married here soon


soosoooooo


but maybe i can apply for tourist visa also

and then maybe have to sort for my degree more here being at my age while waiting



god's will


have to go in some agency by monday too

to ask for proff why they telling me and my fiancee that at the age of 18 it is still applicable for marriage visa to come in the uk

as i read in site its says different

emmmmmmmmmmmmm ill see wat lies a mess

If agencies telling you that it is still possible to get spouse visa even if you're only 18, then they're lie-ing (just to get kwarta out of you) or they just being ignorant not knowing the new uk immigration rules.

[rutchzzz143]

bla bla seems some agencies here rounding our heads to believebut i have to confirm it in there main office and i need there proff how come they had tell me over the phone that nothing changed in uk rules as the site home offiice uk border agency stating..........................

With effect from 27th November 2008, both parties in a marriage must be aged 21 or over before leave to enter or remain in the UK on the basis of marriage to a British or settled person can be issued.

Information regarding the minimum age of applicants and sponsors for marriage visas can be found on the UK Border Agency website at: www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk

Please see the website for further information.

Yours sincerely,

Umar Saif
Immigration Group
UK Border Agency

SO I FEEL YOU HAVE THE POINT ALSO THEY WANT ONLY OUR MONEY TO TOOK UP...........JUST DEALING US THATS ITS FINE TO APPLY EVEN AT MY AGE FOR NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT MYT BE AFTER JUST GET SCREWED DOWN AND WE WILL NOT GET ANY REFUND FROM THEM FOR THE INFO THEY ARE ALL STATING WRONG

EMMMMMMMMMM



THIS MYT BE A HELL IF WE GO THROUGH FOR THIS UNCERTAINTY

WELL I NEED TO GO IN THERE OFFICE BY MONDAY TO CHECK BACK WATS RYT

AS OF THEY PROMISED ME TO RING THE BRITISH EMBASSY LAST FRIDAY TO CONFIRM THE FINAL RULES.................HAAHAHAHAHAA
SEEMS THEY DONT EVEN KNOWS ANY NEW VITAL RULES


CHANGES.............


CHECK BACK THERE SITE

www.olvis.com

CEBU IMIGRATION AGENCY


THEY TOOK UP TO $1000 SERVICE CHARGED...............EXCEPT FOR THAT ALSO THE VISA FEE OVER 40k



bla bla i well see the facts ahead for they make us expect wrongly

watta hell

[pennybarry]

This isn't true, BFs can and have successfully sponsored their GF for visit visa. Though there is no guarantees it wil be granted.

Even if 18 yrs old only???????? I'm on about 18
I know they can sponsor if above 21
as embassy also protects teeners

[Florge]

ahhh... to be young and free... hehehe... when i was 18, i was hoping to get married at 25.. when i was 25... i was busy with work and career.... time flies... 18! so young... you can do a lot of things.. and do everything that you want to do before settling down... enjoy your singlehood (wondering if there's such a word)... good luck!

[joebloggs]

ask your b/f is it possible,or is he willing to go and live in another european country for maybe upto 6 months,

if he's not, then their is not much else you can do but wait 3 years or try for a student visa.

[rutchzzz143]

welll.........this is life myt be for me as one is ready for proposing for a weding ehehhee

though only a conflicts takes us time to be together as one.............eventually as the rules changes to come in the uk w/ him or if only he will stay in phil that myt be easy............

though he have work in the uk

but for the best of time he can come and visit me in phil while 3 yrs in passing and going


but going in phil its such luxurious


so time will hell

and we will wait patiently


god's welll

[rutchzzz143]

ask your b/f is it possible,or is he willing to go and live in another european country for maybe upto 6 months,

if he's not, then their is not much else you can do but wait 3 years or try for a student visa.

I WILL TRY AND CONSULT HIM IF HE CAN DO IN THAT OR IF HE IS INFAVOR OF SUCH ENDEVOURS LIKE THAT STAYING IN DIFF PART IN EUROPE AS HE HAVE WORK IN SAMLEBURY,ENGLAND SO IT MYT TOOK HIM A CONFLICTS IN DISTANCE GOING INTO THE PLACES

IS IT FAR TO STAY IN IRELAND OR ANY EUROPE PART.......



SOOO AS YOU SAYING JOEBLOGGS............EVEN WEN WE GET MARRIED HERE IN PHIL

THEN IF WE APPLY FOR A STUDENT VISA FOR ME TO COME IN THE UK AND HE WILL BE THE SPONSOR

WOULDNT IT BE SUSPICIOUS BY THE EMBASSY AS HE GONNA BE MY HUSBAND THEN HE TOOK ME INTO STUDENT VISA

WHAT MYT THEY THINK OF..............

[joebloggs]

yes it would look suspicious and it would be expensive..

and 3 years is a long time to wait, many LDRs would not survive it

so your choices are he goes and lives in the phils with you or he moves to a european country or you wait 3 years..

or you apply for a visitor visa and hope you get one, allowing you t ocome to the uk for 6 months a year..

[rutchzzz143]

yes it would look suspicious and it would be expensive..

and 3 years is a long time to wait, many LDRs would not survive it

so your choices are he goes and lives in the phils with you or he moves to a european country or you wait 3 years..

or you apply for a visitor visa and hope you get one, allowing you t ocome to the uk for 6 months a year..

YOUR RIGHT............HE CAN VISIT ME ANYTIME TILL I CANT GET A SPOUSAL TO COME IN THE UK STEADILY.............WHILE WAITING FOR A 3 YRS OVER TO COME WHEN I GET 21

BUT ASUMING BEING HER WIFE ALREADY AND OF COURSE WERE MARRIED HERE IN PHIL

THEN IF I APPLY FOR A TOURIST VISA.........W/ HIS SPONSORED
SO AS PART OF THE REQ HE WILL NEED TO SHOW HIS ACCOMODATION

AND EXAMPLE IN MY PART HAVING NO STEADY WORK AND OF COURSE THE EMBASSY WILL LOOK BACK INTO MY PROPERTY OR ACCOMODATIONS.......WOULD IT AFFECTS ME IF I DONT HAVE MUCH.BUT I WILL JUST ASE ON MY HUBBY SITUATIONS TO COME AND VISIT

WOULD IT HAVE A CHANCE TO BE GRANTED BY VISA?

[darren-b]

Even if 18 yrs old only???????? I'm on about 18
I know they can sponsor if above 21
as embassy also protects teeners

With fiance/marriage visas you have to be over 21, but I don't think that you have to be over 21 to apply for a tourist visa.

[joebloggs]

getting a visitor visa can be pot luck,

some people have got a visitor visa while having no job, savings or property in the phils, and some people have been refused while they had a job, savings and property in the phils..


so you cannot be sure of getting one at all.

but if your married you will have the right to appeal if your refused, but the embassy might say because your''e married, you have no reason to return to the phils. so they will refuse you a visa

[joebloggs]

With fiance/marriage visas you have to be over 21, but I don't think that you have to be over 21 to apply for a tourist visa.

no you don't, but over 21 to apply for a settlement visa.

[pennybarry]

With fiance/marriage visas you have to be over 21, but I don't think that you have to be over 21 to apply for a tourist visa.

ok. I hope she can get one As I have never heard of any applicant granted visa for 18 years old girlfriend

I still remember and have seen applicants who applied tourist visa and denied. They were crying outloud outside the embassy. Really I feel sorry for them as they really want to go.

[rutchzzz143]

ok. I hope she can get one As I have never heard of any applicant granted visa for 18 years old girlfriend

I still remember and have seen applicants who applied tourist visa and denied. They were crying outloud outside the embassy. Really I feel sorry for them as they really want to go.

BEEN SORRY TO MYSELF ALSO LAST FEB 2009 ME AND MY FIANCEE WE APPLY IN THE UK BRITISH EMBASSY/VFS FOR TOURIST VISA
BUT JUST BEEN DENIED...............AND ITS MISLACK OF INFORMATIONS AS THEY ARE TELLING ME AND MY FIANCEE THAT VISA IS VALID VIA EMAILS,TXT AND VISA TRACKING RESULTS ONLINE TOO..................


SO ASSUMING AT THAT TIME VISA IS 100% GRANTED......SO MY FIANCEE PURCHASED A FLIGHT FOR ME TO COME TO THE UK STRAIGHT WHEN I PICKED UP MY VISA IN THE VFS MANILA.................BUT ITS SUCH SO WORSTEWHY I NEVER BEEN TOLD THE REAL RESULTS.........BUT JUST WEN IM ALREADY IN THE PLACE.........SO I WENT OUT THE VFS IN TEARS.....AND SO STRESSES AND DEPRESSED AT THAT TIME MY FIANCEE KEEPS ME CALLING AS WELL....................


SO ABOUT MY FLIGHT TO COME TO THE UK IT COST FOR ME OVER 60 000+PH BUT AFTER IT WASNT ABLE TO USED SO FLIGHT CANCELL SO NO CHOOICE WE DIDNT GET ANY REFUND ALSO EVEN A CENTAVO..............

DAMN ITS JUST LIKE THROWING THE MONEY IN THE GARBAGE CAN



BUT UNFORTUNATELY.........MY FIANCEE HAVING AN APPEAL IN THE LONDON NOW SO STILL WAIITNG FOR ANY RESULTS

BUT WE DONT HOPE IT TO MUCH RIGHT NOW BUT TO LOOK BACK THE BETTER


THIS IS OUR APPEALING LETTER AS WHEN I GET MY VISA RESULTS AND NOTICED PAPERS..........ALMOST ALL MY DOCUMENTS AND MY FIANCEE HAD PASSED THERE WERENT ARENT RETURN BACK TO ME


ARE ALL THEY DOING RIGHT?





xxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
xx xxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Blackpool
Lancs
xxxxxxx
2nd April 2009

To the A&I Tribunal,

With regards to a visa application, which was recently submitted to the Manila VFS Global centre in Makati? I have been together with the lady involved, and have been waiting for a response for her to be either accepted or rejected as a visitor coming to the UK.
Having had confirmation through their web site pages that the visa has been processed and also by txt on Routchil’s phone as stipulated when submitted the application, Routchil has traveled from Cebu to Manila to claim the visa as informed on both accounts.
When she arrived there, she was told that the visa was not going to be issued to her, and this has caused ripple effect along the line of coming here to the UK. Through this information given to both of us, With this in mind, I purchased a flight ticket for her to have the next day in coming, as returning back to Cebu seemed pointless and then return again back for her flight at a different time. We assumed all was fine and all that was needed was to pick up the visa from the VFS and get the plane to fly here to the UK.

Since speaking to me about this ordeal, Routchil has been in tears as to what to do next. If I had known that the visa was not to be issued, I would not have bought the airline ticket (See attachments) for Routchil to come over here. Also, when I rang the VFS, I realized that who ever gave the information to Routchil was in fact incorrect. I feel I have been misinformed & so does Routchil on this. It has not been a good 24 hrs for both of us.

The knock back, of not receiving the visa, is not an issue with me but the information that one person tells you something and you trust the information on the webpage being correct. This is a misunderstanding to say the least on the webpage and txt to be something else.

All in all, it has set me back £1000.00 pounds in transport costs for this mishap to have happened. If this had been dealt with in a proper manner, with the correct information sent out explaining the circumstances of why the visa had not been issued, might then, have been able to re-address certain issues and mishaps instead of believing that we were to be granted a visa.

I do not even know why after 30 days the application has in fact been rejected, even though I have read the wording from Mr. Mustafa’s comments, but all I know from my conversations with the VFS supervision (See email attachment) that Maria Madrilejo also wanted to know who had made this dreadful mistake and wanted us to tell her know who it was. Routchil did not know when she came to pick up the visa this man in question was who summoned her. By the time this letter has been processed through the Asylum & Immigration Tribunal area, will be too late to solve this issue.
I have built up a very good and friendly relationship with Routchil and of which we have spent time in her country. I was hoping she would be able to reply here and see just what a good nation we are living in. After this, I am not so sure my faith in humanity here is all it should be.
I appeal to you and your sense of judgment, that you can see what has gone on here and reinstate the visa for Routchil.

I have enclosed the information required below and also an email from a representative from the VFS clarifying the position of the misunderstanding:-


Sent to: VFS Global Centre, Makati, Manila

Name: xxxxxxx xxxxxxxx xxxxxxx

DofB: 07/01/1991

Applying for: Visitors visa

Sent to: 16th February 2009 of application

VFS Global Ref. No. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx




Things that were presented to the VFS in Manila but never received back when Routchil went to collect her documents:-

1) Wage slip
2) Utility bills
3) Deeds to my house
4) Pictures of us together in Manila
5) Emails & correspondences
6) Invitation Letter from me for Routchil to spend time with me, as stipulated in the VAF1A requirements.
7) Original Birth Certificate of Routchil Gealon

Things we did receive back were her passport and the ticket for paying for the visa from the bank.

Because Routchil was not given all the documents back from the VFS, I have only a copy of the Invitation which was submitted at the time at hand. I have to stress that Mr. Mustafa, who is the Entry Clearance Officer is looking at our case from the documents provided here. From his deductions, I feel he is not aware of the full facts or that he has not been given all the information to deduce his assumptions on Routchil. All the information he has referred to has been substantiated in my documents given to the VFS at the time.

I stress, that from sections i ii iii of the ruling of paragraph 41 of the Immigration laws should incomprehensively be discharged as lack of evidence to support Mr. Mustafa’s foundations in arriving towards Rouchil Gealon. That I Graham Smith have stated in my Invitation letter that all of the above will in fact be adhered to accordingly. If there are other things that are driving this decision here, I would like to be informed of. My intentions here are for Routchil to come here and spend 6 months as a visitor.

I am not a man who breaks the law and if things are not correct, am first to try and put things in perspective. I appeal to your better judgment & hope you can come to an amicable decision on this. Additional to the information is that Routchil has been working in the family business and provided are details of her employment (See attachments)


SUMMARY of APPEAL



I have provided an invitation letter here and all others documents are with the VFS.

The misinformation of txt message and webpage stating, that our application had now been accepted and ready to be picked up.

The airfare of which I based this information on, as to why would I have gone out and bought a ticket for Routchil and why would she have also travelled to Manila knowing that she was going to be disappointed on arrival.

The email I received from Maria Madrilejo the supervisor stated, and of which now, since speaking with her directly has in fact rescinded her statement to me and told us that our visa has now been rejected.

My bank details, utility bills, house ownership, wage slip has been confiscated and not returned back to us

If Routchil has been seen to have committed a crime here from being thorough and working within the documents UK Border Agency has provided and also the VAFA1 form, much as I hate to mention that I appeal again to your logical thinking in this matter and if your decision is still to reject her invite to the UK, please explain to me what we have to abide by in order to think further and hopefully not come across another and expense again.


Yours Sincerely

xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sponcer of xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx



Asylum and Immigration Tribunal
Tribunals Group Customer Service Centre,
PO Box 7866
Loughborough LE11 2 XZ
United Kingdom

[pennybarry]

SO ABOUT MY FLIGHT TO COME TO THE UK IT COST FOR ME OVER 60 000+PH BUT AFTER IT WASNT ABLE TO USED SO FLIGHT CANCELL SO NO CHOOICE WE DIDNT GET ANY REFUND ALSO EVEN A CENTAVO..............

DAMN ITS JUST LIKE THROWING THE MONEY IN THE GARBAGE CAN

Why did you buy a ticket already? You can book a flight and ask for Booking Certificate. It cost free at Gulf Air b4. Or you can buy ticket which you can refund.

[Pepe n Pilar]

welll.........this is life myt be for me as one is ready for proposing for a weding ehehhee

though only a conflicts takes us time to be together as one.............eventually as the rules changes to come in the uk w/ him or if only he will stay in phil that myt be easy............

though he have work in the uk

but for the best of time he can come and visit me in phil while 3 yrs in passing and going


but going in phil its such luxurious


so time will hell

and we will wait patiently


god's welll

Dear Rutch,

I can understand how you feel right now. When i was 17 i received a marriage proposal. It feels great when you hear these words, doesn't it? especially when you know that he loves you very much and offers you everything to make you happy and contented.

It's not because someone offers you marriage then you will rush into it. You have to think many times. At your age, you should be enjoying singlehood. Life is different once you get married. But anyway, it is your life and it's still your decision that will prevail. Everything that will come across your path as you go along the relationship will be an eye opener for you. We never stop learning anyway.

Just a friendly advice here. I hope you come up with the right decision and be happy with whatever it may be.

You can get married in the Phils provided you need to have parental consent. Then you can apply for a spouse visa at age 21.




Best of luck.
Cheers