[QUOTE=bornatbirth;138127]then stick to the facts!

when does a babies life begin?

its seems no proof of fact as been presented by either argument
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A clue: the answer to your question is inherent in itself.

I stated my position clearly many times and have referenced my statements when I felt it pertinent. Because some cannot abide by religious principles, let's stick to science. Life begins when the tenets of biology say it does. It seems that some are arguing that there is no life in an unborn as they do not know how life is defined in biology. They are coming up with personal definitions even though they say that personal insight is invalid. Hmmn! In anticipation that someone will yet again repeat what I say and naievly try to turn it back to me, I will reiterate that I do not say things I cannot reference to a broad range of informed sources.

Someone challenged the anti-abortionists here on the basis that they wanted to see a debate wrought from facts, without emotion, religion and emotional bias, yet have presented no facts. That is their requirement yet they have not been able to meet their own expectations.

Anyway, I've said my peace. The pro-abortionists can continue but hopefully will provide some evidence for the 3 points I've highlighted from JudyHon's portfolio of unfounded statements. Somehow I doubt it though. I'm on my travels now. Peace.