Is it a sin??????

[Mrs Daddy]

Is Abortion a mortal sin??????
I mean when I was younger and grew up with religious parents and did go to church often.Growing up in a religious country somehow giving us a strong belief that killing of human life is a mortal sin...

I am not pregnant but someone`s very close to me is undegoing such hurdle in life and thinking that this is the best way out.But If its really true that there`s heaven and hell I dont wanna do such a thing that makes me go to hell

I dont know What to advice her but she is very determined to get rid of the foetus.May God forgive us!

[Jay&Zobel]

Is Abortion a mortal sin??????
I mean when I was younger and grew up with religious parents and did go to church often.Growing up in a religious country somehow giving us a strong belief that killing of human life is a mortal sin...

I am not pregnant but someone`s very close to me is undegoing such hurdle in life and thinking that this is the best way out.But If its really true that there`s heaven and hell I dont wanna do such a thing that makes me go to hell

I dont know What to advice her but she is very determined to get rid of the foetus.May God forgive us!

Please tell her not to correct a mistake with another mistake.

If she did make a mistake in life, she should accept responsibility for it.

And when it regards to someone's life (the baby), the baby should not be punished.

(As you have said, you are a religious person, then you know what the answer is...) Please do pray for her...

We'll pray for you & your friend.

[bornatbirth]

isnt it simple dont have sex!

oh already too late,why do you feel the bible knows best and is correct when it comes to making such an important decision?

i understand pro lifers but i cant understand why the bible can be so correct when it was written so long ago?

your friends decision should be made for the best interest of the child and the mother and not be fooled into a decision from the bible!

[Mrs Daddy]

isnt it simple dont have sex!

oh already too late,why do you feel the bible knows best and is correct when it comes to making such an important decision?

i understand pro lifers but i cant understand why the bible can be so correct when it was written so long ago?

your friends decision should be made for the best interest of the child and the mother and not be fooled into a decision from the bible!

You can say that coz you were not on a situation where you were molded to be religious and since then you`re get use to it and have this strong belief about God.I mean nothing`s wrong if you belive or not believe God you have this free will so to called in life and it your own choice really!

[Tawi2]

I think a child is a gift,its not a right its a blessing,my sister has two sister-in-laws,both career women,one of whom had several abortions in her youth,nowadays both are childless,what an empty existance if you cant hear a kid laugh or see pleasure in the face of something you helped create.I dont agree with abortion,isnt it easier just to use contraceptives?

[Mrs Daddy]

I know!Its a simple thing.If you are not ready to get pregnant then use contraceptions same as you Mr.Tawi2 I really didnt know why it happen like this if she doesnt want to end up like this she should have done her homework before comitting such a foolish thing as they said its a seconds of ecstacy and a lifelong resentment.

[bornatbirth]

I know!Its a simple thing.If you are not ready to get pregnant then use contraceptions same as you Mr.Tawi2 I really didnt know why it happen like this if she doesnt want to end up like this she should have done her homework before comitting such a foolish thing as they said its a seconds of ecstacy and a lifelong resentment.

well put mrs daddy

and a life time resentment for who the child?

[Tawi2]

No resentment for a child if your going to be promiscuous use contraception,its not exactly rocket science,how old is the lady?At the end of the day its her decision,she is the one who has to live with it,but if she is a normal,healthy woman no matter what her financial circumstances,is an abortion the answer?Look into the eyes of an older barren lady,watch her pleasure when she sees a child,look at the longing...................Is an abrotion,depriving a child the gift of life,really the answer?

[JudyHon]

Is Abortion a mortal sin??????
I mean when I was younger and grew up with religious parents and did go to church often.Growing up in a religious country somehow giving us a strong belief that killing of human life is a mortal sin...

I am not pregnant but someone`s very close to me is undegoing such hurdle in life and thinking that this is the best way out.But If its really true that there`s heaven and hell I dont wanna do such a thing that makes me go to hell

I dont know What to advice her but she is very determined to get rid of the foetus.May God forgive us!

I think the most important thing is the welfare of the mother and whether the baby will be brought up into a stable and loving environment. If your friend really thinks that she is not ready or unable to provide such an environment i do not think it would be fair on the baby.

You can give her an advice but at the end of the day it's her decision to take and you need to support her as a friend whatever she decides.

[adam&chryss]

It`s a very emotional subject this one.
I know here in UK people are too ready to have an abortion as a cure for their stupidity. As mentioned its not rocket science to use contraception.
Prevention is better than a cure in my eyes.
If this person has been brought up with religion and sees abortion as wrong then, unless they are married, I guess pre-marital sex is also against religion.
Of course theres always more to the story and its not a position i`d like to be in.
I hope this person will come to the right decision for themselves and not anyone else or religion.

[Tiggers0608]

Having abortion or keeping the baby, thats really a big decision to make by the person carrying the child it rather than people saying whats right or wrong to do.

Having a baby yep i guess its not a right, its a previlege, sometimes we makes mistakes in life and we think getting rid of the unborn child will make it right does it

I have a friend who commit abortion and now shes sorry for it and regret it

And i have another friend who wants to have an abortion but didn't do it, now she's happy coz its a boy, only boy among 3 girls

sin or no sin ........ if she thinks its a sin having sex is a sin too ........ especially if ur not married .......... but if u don't belive in that , well means no sins committed i think

i guess ur friend needs to think about it more, rather than thinking if its a sin or not to commit abortion

[Sophie]

Is Abortion a mortal sin??????
I mean when I was younger and grew up with religious parents and did go to church often.Growing up in a religious country somehow giving us a strong belief that killing of human life is a mortal sin...

I am not pregnant but someone`s very close to me is undegoing such hurdle in life and thinking that this is the best way out.But If its really true that there`s heaven and hell I dont wanna do such a thing that makes me go to hell

I dont know What to advice her but she is very determined to get rid of the foetus.May God forgive us!

I personally believe its a sin to do that based on what i've been taught growing up. But i'm in no position to judge anyone who would opt for that and resort to such thing. She probably has a valid reason for deciding to do so or it could be a matter of life and death. After all, we all have been given the freedom of choice and we all know the consequences that will come out from the decision we make as well. However, one mistake cannot be corrected by another mistake. You can advice her not to go through with it, but in the end, it's all up to her to decide for herself, after all, she herself will either suffer or benefit from the choice she make. It's between her and her conscience/faith/belief.

[joebloggs]

I think the most important thing is the welfare of the mother and whether the baby will be brought up into a stable and loving environment. If your friend really thinks that she is not ready or unable to provide such an environment i do not think it would be fair on the baby.

You can give her an advice but at the end of the day it's her decision to take and you need to support her as a friend whatever she decides.

I'm not religious, but i am pro life

if the mother doesn't want the baby, or can't give it a stable or loving environment then at least she can have the baby and give it up for adoption.

there is always the chance of regret later that she had an abortion, and no one can take that burden away from her, but if she has the baby and gives it up for adoption, the only regret she will have is wondering that kinda life the child had.. and at least the baby had a life

[JudyHon]

I'm not religious, but i am pro life

if the mother doesn't want the baby, or can't give it a stable or loving environment then at least she can have the baby and give it up for adoption.

there is always the chance of regret later that she had an abortion, and no one can take that burden away from her, but if she has the baby and gives it up for adoption, the only regret she will have is wondering that kinda life the child had.. and at least the baby had a life

It isn't a baby. It's a foetus. I am pro choice - to a degree - it depends on the stage of the foetus. However, I believe the woman's rights should come first. I know what a nightmare the adoption system is in the UK, and if Phils is anything like that, I would have reservations about adoption.

I am not advocating either way, but it may be that if she has the baby she is pressured not to put it up for adoption. We don't know the situation. It has to be her decision, and she should have a choice. Living with regret will clearly be important in her decision. She wouldn't be guilt-ridden all her days if she gave the baby away for adoption?

Just my opinion...

[KeithD]

Everything dies, so when is an irrelevance.

[Eljohno]

isnt it simple dont have sex!

oh already too late,why do you feel the bible knows best and is correct when it comes to making such an important decision?

i understand pro lifers but i cant understand why the bible can be so correct when it was written so long ago?

your friends decision should be made for the best interest of the child and the mother and not be fooled into a decision from the bible!

Although i agree with what God's Word says and that is one of the reasons i believe its wrong but even before i became a Christian i still held the same views that it should not happen and that was before i knew what God thought about it..

Surely it is wrong for the child to suffer when he/she is the innocent party in this..

If a woman does not want the child or cannot afford to have the child then surely then the right thing to do would be to give the baby away for adoption. Life is too precious to be wiped out so soon after it has been created..

[joebloggs]

I think the most important thing is the welfare of the mother and whether the baby will be brought up into a stable and loving environment. If your friend really thinks that she is not ready or unable to provide such an environment i do not think it would be fair on the baby.

It isn't a baby.

you can call it a foetus, i'll call it a baby, but tell me how many times have you heard someone having a 'miss carriage of a foetus'

and the procedure for an abortion, dilation and evacuation (d&e)

and the foetus has no rights, yet they are the innocent ones

yes i would rather be pro-life than pro-death , I've seen enough death in my life..

[Jamesey]

It isn't a baby. It's a foetus. I am pro choice - to a degree - it depends on the stage of the foetus. However, I believe the woman's rights should come first.

Well done, JudyHon, a voice of reason not clouded by the religious mumbo jumbo.

Abortion should be a woman's right. It's an imperfect world and mistakes happen. It's easy for us to sit back and judge others, but for some women, abortion is the right solution.

[joebloggs]

Well done, JudyHon, a voice of reason not clouded by the religious mumbo jumbo.

Abortion should be a woman's right. It's an imperfect world and mistakes happen. It's easy for us to sit back and judge others, but for some women, abortion is the right solution.

i'm not religious, not one bit ..

when you make a mistake you play a price, the price is 9 months, after that your free.

as for sitting back and judging others, who's speaking up for the unborn ? their brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles ??

a babies heart starts beating within 24 days from conception, even before the woman knows she's pregnant..

rant other, i'm off to play with 2 1/2 yr old little joe

you owe your parents nothing, but your kids everything

peace to everyone, just don't start a fox hunting thread or a pro euro one

[Mrs Daddy]

I dont know guys...will update for more info`s

[Jamesey]

i'm not religious, not one bit ..

when you make a mistake you play a price, the price is 9 months, after that your free.

as for sitting back and judging others, who's speaking up for the unborn ? their brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles ??

a babies heart starts beating within 24 days from conception, even before the woman knows she's pregnant..

So a foetus (fertilised egg) should have the same "rights" as a new born baby?

If that's the case, what about the estimated 60 - 80% of fertilised eggs that fail to implant and are flushed, unnoticed, through a woman's normal menstrual flows?

Surely medical science should be doing something to address this appalling waste of human life!

Just a thought.....

(Interesting link: http://www.reason.com/news/show/34948.html)

[JudyHon]

It's pointless to argue semantics. For me it's a foetus now, but will become a baby if born.

Actually I don't think it's any of men's business, as we don't have to go through it so who are we judge? So often we don't have to pay for 'the mistake'. That's the problem I have with men who are pro-life trying to impose their beliefs on women. Some have even killed abortionists - hypocrites...

Pro-choice does not equal pro-death.

[joebloggs]

So a foetus (fertilised egg) should have the same "rights" as a new born baby?

If that's the case, what about the estimated 60 - 80% of fertilised eggs that fail to implant and are flushed, unnoticed, through a woman's normal menstrual flows?

Surely medical science should be doing something to address this appalling waste of human life!

Just a thought.....

(Interesting link: http://www.reason.com/news/show/34948.html)

tell me then, when does a foetus become a baby then, when its born ?

did you read the first sentence of the link, nature destroys human embryos, were talking about man destroying it, because someone doesn't want it, bit of a difference.

next time you google. have a look at a 24wk old foetus, because that's the legal limit to an abortion in the uk.

i'll give you a clue, they can open and close their eyes, a foetus or a baby ?

[joebloggs]

It's pointless to argue semantics. For me it's a foetus now, but will become a baby if born.

Actually I don't think it's any of men's business, as we don't have to go through it so who are we judge? So often we don't have to pay for 'the mistake'. That's the problem I have with men who are pro-life trying to impose their beliefs on women. Some have even killed abortionists - hypocrites...

Pro-choice does not equal pro-death.

as i said b4 take a look at a 24wk old 'foetus' and then tell me it's only a baby when born ?

a 22wk old 'foetus' born premature has lived..

pro-choice, yes she had a choice b4 she had sex. the word is 'no'
a mistake that cost a life.

i don't think i have ever heard a mother use the word 'foetus' instead of baby

when your a mom, maybe you'll change your view and realise how precious life is, coming from grandpa joe

[KeithD]

A baby is a living breathing thing you hold in your arms, until it draws its first breath, it is not an independent living human, just a cellular growth that if the mothers hormones did not surpress the immune system it would be rejected as foreign.....hence a miscarriage.

[Gavanddal]

It's more important to bring up a child who is wanted, in a supportive home with 2 loving parents.
There's too many children brought into the world by mothers who can't support them or will bring them up in poverty.

If the parents situation in not ideal to bring a child into and may result in hardship or unhappiness then isn't it better to terminate the pregnancy.
Anyway, an early stage abortion is not a human person, just a cluster of cells. However, the time limit is too high in my opinion.

I find the eating of balut far more offensive than human abortion. If taking a life is a "mortal sin", how will we eat?

[joebloggs]

It's more important to bring up a child who is wanted, in a supportive home with 2 loving parents.
There's too many children brought into the world by mothers who can't support them or will bring them up in poverty.

If the parents situation in not ideal to bring a child into and may result in hardship or unhappiness then isn't it better to terminate the pregnancy.
Anyway, an early stage abortion is not a human person, just a cluster of cells. However, the time limit is too high in my opinion.

I find the eating of balut far more offensive than human abortion. If taking a life is a "mortal sin", how will we eat?

yes in an ideal world every family would be like the waltons , about 40% of marriages end in divorce in the UK that's reality, so no supportive home with 2 loving parents for their children.

as for the parents situation not being ideal to bring a child into and may result in hardship or unhappiness, you could say that about me and my misses and little joe, hardship yes maybe, for who long ? things change, as for unhappiness , you got that bit wrong

as for being a cluster of cells, yes at 18 - 24 days with a beating heart


and how many cannibals do you know ?

unhappy little joe wants me to put dora on the tv for him


as for balut

[Mrs Daddy]

Thats why she chooses to abort this baby bcoz it happened twice this time that she got pregnant even though she manage to deliver the first one but she thought she cant cope with another one (baby)with different father and at this time she isn`t in a proper relationship and she does`nt want to be in humiliation again.She said she did have sex with the said man for a reason but not this reason (getting pregnant) sad thing is the man is nowhere to be found that is why she is not keen to keep the baby!I have ask her how many months her tummy now and she said is two months!

[cheesewiz]

what a sad life

If we put GOD in the context that's it, its a never ending debate But for us filipinos whose a believers we know that is not the right thing to do. Child is a precious gift form GOD.

But for her situation, the decision is up to her. Life is what we make it at the end of the day. Good luck to her.

[aposhark]

I'm not religious, but i am pro life

if the mother doesn't want the baby, or can't give it a stable or loving environment then at least she can have the baby and give it up for adoption.

there is always the chance of regret later that she had an abortion, and no one can take that burden away from her, but if she has the baby and gives it up for adoption, the only regret she will have is wondering that kinda life the child had.. and at least the baby had a life

I have the same thoughts as Joe on this.