Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
i'm still waiting for a mother who calls a baby a foetus

still no takers...

i'll have a wild guess and say your not a parent, or never have given birth.. maybe your view will change when you have, i hope so, because i'm sure when you tell your family and friends your pregnant with a foetus, they will think your

If a foetus does not have a right to life then why aren't all foetus's killed? Also, if a foetus is not a living human being then why does one have to kill it? Why not wait for the foetus to be born and then find out if it really is a living human being?

also are we not all dependant on our environment to sustain our lives? A pre-born baby requires the womb for life. Babies require food and care from others, or they will die. Even adults require air, water, and food from a source outside of themselves.

you keep mentioning 'potential', true we all have the potential to be a millionaire, but also true is that most pregnancies that go full term, will result in the birth of a baby, its more than a 'potential' is it an also certainty that a baby will be born. you may have the potential that you could be PM, but Cameron will almost certainly be MP soon, as a foetus will almost certainly become a baby

not being a mother, i have a good idea thou, of a bond btw a mother and child, and the price and sacrifices a mother will do for their child. no matter what the cost. Nobody or nothing can even come close to the bond a mother and child have, and that bond for many starts the day she finds out she is pregnant

peace to you all. life is too short and precious to waste
I don't think anyone under-estimates the emotional tie that a woman feels when she knows she is pregnant, or the stress she feels if she then considers, for whatever reason, having an abortion. I think therefore that we can all agree on this. However, with respect, that is not the point.
The point at issue is the additional guilt which is being laid on her by describing an abortion as taking a "life" or "murder" when it is clear to many of us that it is no such thing. A woman undergoing an abortion is likely to suffer enormous emotional problems, and in my experience they can last for a very long time. For the pro-life lobby to make things worse for her just seems so cruel. What I would like to see is understanding and support given to ease the pain. This is a difficult ethical matter for many people but I think the UK position is about right. When I read some of the extreme views expressed in the USA by the pro-life lobby I shudder at the thinking and am so glad we live in a more liberal country.