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    Quote Originally Posted by jimcarie View Post
    i have the epson sx405,its a good printer but must admit,in the past when the ink has run out ,rather than buy new ink for it which is normally about 40 quid, ive just replaced the printer because, if you look about you can get printer and ink deals from the likes of pc world and currys, i think theres 3 printers in the cupboard here and one is a lexmark the others are epson, so i must like the epson brand better
    the only thing is when you buy a new printer, most of them have starter ink cartridges/toners cartridges in them, so they don't last long

    the manufacturer makes most of the money selling cartridges not from the printer. so they try their best to prevent people refilling them using smart chips and making it difficult for people to physically refill them.

    from what I've seen, most hp all in ones are better than most canon and epsons all in ones, HP don't use a fixed print head (so you dont have to throw it away if the nozzles get blocked), as the print heads are built in the ink cartridge or use a separate print head.

    depends on what you want to use the printer for, but you can buy cheap second hand good color laser printers now (from ebay), that's all i use to print photos, books, etc


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    the only thing is when you buy a new printer, most of them have starter ink cartridges/toners cartridges in them, so they don't last long

    the manufacturer makes most of the money selling cartridges not from the printer. so they try their best to prevent people refilling them using smart chips and making it difficult for people to physically refill them.

    from what I've seen, most hp all in ones are better than most canon and epsons all in ones, HP don't use a fixed print head (so you dont have to throw it away if the nozzles get blocked), as the print heads are built in the ink cartridge or use a separate print head.

    depends on what you want to use the printer for, but you can buy cheap second hand good color laser printers now (from ebay), that's all i use to print photos, books, etc

    Word, all about the consumables. Really worth doing some research on this subject. Some chips can be poped ahem (while some brands i understand it renders the catridge no good, others will keep on working)

    HP due to the huge amount businesses use are good value I find.

    Defintely worth seeing if you can get a good one second hand. A local 2nd hand electrical shop has started selling toner based office printers. One cartridge/s might provide thousands of prints if typical coverage. For the avg household that will last years. Also the paper you can use is normally cheaper They also from what i hear can be easier to repair (im sure Joe will know if true or not)
    Toner based units also dont need to be in constant use or needs heads flsuhing which very few people i know do. When I get asked (because i work in IT bit like asking a car designer to fix a tractor but my pleasure) Half the time I read the instructions and go though the alignment and head cleaning which people don't like to do as it costs ink.
    My Dad had a lemark or something which must have had the same cartridge refilled tens of times.

    Never go on intial cost of printer

    Also some some just use CMY ink using all three to make black (AVOID unless you have expert advice saying otherwise)

    Also before printing check what your printing.

    With a webpage do you just need the texts or pictures. Getting rid of the websites border of solid colour can help a lot. Just cut and paste if you can. If you simply need the map on a website. See if you can edit it before printing.

    If you need to print full coverage or a large amount check with a local print shop it may be cheaper to let them do it. Remeber if the printer jams or mucks its their problem. Its faster if the copy quality not right then you can get another copy free of charge.

    For example we printed out 3 sets of citzenship forms and the guide and a few other documents relating to the application my Wife was making.
    Using a laser printer it took it in its stride copies were consistent from seeing examples on Inkjets when people bring in CV's and work examples, ink jets struggle and most likely used a whole cartridge.

    In fact at work I now offer people to be interviewed or coming for meetings the chance to bring in on USB, Disk or email over if easier which we print out for them if we need to or take a copy and save to our pc's. So worth checking if the company your applying to or need to send documents is happy to do this.
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