The Great Evolution Deception

[aposhark]

I was waiting for that.....

Don't want to disappoint you, Dom :-)

[joebloggs]

In fact, ALL explanations of fossils etc can be explained by the global flood of Noah in Genesis.

i didn't know Noah was a Neanderthal or Noah was around 350,000 - 600,000 years ago

[jimeve]

i didn't know Noah was a Neanderthal or Noah was around 350,000 - 600,000 years ago

Gosh was it that long ago, don't time fly.

[John Chingford]

Please check out answers in genesis for yourself. You will be surprised what you find. They do not deny that dinosaurs existed but they argue that humans and dinos lived at same time. For example caves have been found showing paintings of dinos. The bible mentions dragons (the bible word for dinos).

[Tawi2]

The very concept of Incest is disgusting,have you SEEN my brother No way!!!!!

[bornatbirth]

i once played one of the wise men at school.

[joebloggs]

According to the Bible: Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago.

ok, so what does the bible say about Neanderthal man ???

can't find anything on your site

[Tawi2]

Yup,what happened to nearderthal,cro-magnon,homo erectus?

[John Chingford]

According to the Bible: Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago.

ok, so what does the bible say about Neanderthal man ???

can't find anything on your site

If you use the search key on any subject it probably gives you an answer. That is what I just did and found this on their website. Please click on:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/medi...nced-evolution

[John Chingford]

The global flood caused such catastrophies. There were earthquakes, volcanos. The earth opened up underground floods as well as the torrents from above the earth. Genesis tells us that above the whole earth was a firmament of water and that it had never rained on the earth until the flood. The tremendous action of all these things happening at the same time caused things on the earth to happen and develop very quickly. I am no expert and cannot explain it as well as AIG. I suggest you read their material and watch their videos. As far as I am concerned it is very conclusive to me.

[Pepe n Pilar]

Dear John - I am actually very open minded and do believe in a higher power. However, it does make me laugh when you make a comment like: "were you there when the so called big bang happened?" to which I would ask; were you there when God supposedly created the Universe in only 6 days? And while we are on the subject of "As in the days of Noah", please explain to me how he managed to get one pair of every species on earth into an ark that was, using the actual measurements in cubits, not very big. To collect one pair of just every insect species on earth would require something the size of a small stadium and for a pair of every mammal you would need a whole town. I don't mind people having their own views, but at least check your own facts before trashing everyone elses. :-)

[Pepe n Pilar]

Interestingly, the speed of light is a scientifically proven fact. So, if we are seeing light from galaxies that are almost 14 billion years old, how can the Universe only be 6,000 years old?

[John Chingford]

This is the problem with those who want to reject the bible. They throw anything out that doesn't make sense to their finite minds and make assumptions about what they read. The bible does not say that every animal that has ever existed was on the ark, nor does it say that every species was in the ark. The bible does not argue against species evolving, but it states that originally two of every animal went into the ark, ie 2 dogs may have evolved into different type of dogs. In otherwords dogs make dogs, cats make cats, dinos make dinos. Regarding T REX, it probably died in the flood but smaller versions of dinos may have entered. Regarding T Rex being a meat eater. How do you know? Because it had big teeth - no proof it was ferocious. When God first made the animals they were as pets for man. The full decay caused by sin changed tamed animals ferocious, but how do we know for sure that the ferocious animals we now know were always that way? Regards the Ark, did you know that it was about half the size of the QE2, and very high, plenty of room for all types of animal. We cannot judge the bible or what things were like at that time by todays theories or experiences. We need to know the actual facts

[Tawi2]

I dont think anyone ever kept a T-rex as a pet John,imagine cleaning up Rex-poo Its bad enough with the dog in the park never mind having to carry a bin-bag around T-rex had those sharp,serated teeth for a reason,and it wasnt to eat lentil soup,look at its living relatives,Komodos,when I went to komodo,flores,and Rinca years ago we bought a goat,it was legal then though its not allowed now,we took the goat to the dry-gully where the dragons were used to being fed..................

[Tawi2]

Didnt they think they had found the remnants of the ark high up on Mt Ararat? Wheres Indie when you need him

[joebloggs]

john how do you know it was half the size of the QE2? did you see it ?
and how long did it take Noah to build it then ?

the QE2 would have taken years to build with modern machinery, how long would it have taken Noah and his family to build an ark half the size, decades ?

[John Chingford]

john how do you know it was half the size of the QE2? did you see it ?
and how long did it take Noah to build it then ?

the QE2 would have taken years to build with modern machinery, how long would it have taken Noah and his family to build an ark half the size, decades ?

The bible does not state how long it took Noah to build the ark. It does state that he was 600 when the flood came. Did you know that the remains of the ark has been seen on top of mount Ararat but because of political reasons in Turkey the site is closed off

[Tawi2]

John,if you scroll back I mentioned about Mt Ararat,but because the place is close to the iraq border and the kurds are a little edgy its not allowed for archaeological teams to enter But they have done in the past

[bornatbirth]

i was speaking to a very old friend of mine the other day,i mean hes as old as the bible.

and funny you mention it he told me about his pet t-rex who was very well behaved until one day he ate his wife!

so sadly t-rexs dont make very good pets?

[Pepe n Pilar]

What part of "And of every living creature of every sort of flesh, two of each, you will bring into the ark" (Gen. 6:19) would lead you to suppose that every species was not represented? That is what The Bible purports. And of course, he had to feed them all for seven months and seventeen days - still think the ark was big enough?

[Tawi2]

Noah must have been knee-deep in dung

[John Chingford]

What part of "And of every living creature of every sort of flesh, two of each, you will bring into the ark" (Gen. 6:19) would lead you to suppose that every species was not represented? That is what The Bible purports. And of course, he had to feed them all for seven months and seventeen days - still think the ark was big enough?

We are measuring how many animals existed at that time by how many exist today. For example God said choose 7 of every kind of bird. Obviously, today there are much more than 7 types of bird. After 4000 years those 7 types of bird have evolved into hundreds or is it thousands of types of bird?

Maybe there were just enough animals, birds etc sufficient to be the root of every future species evolving from the root of each kind of animal? For example zebras come from the horse root? Again I am no scientist, but it makes sense to me. It makes more sense to believe in God who created all things and if God created all things He is therefore fully capable of ensuring that the bible will be trustworthy for all generations

[Tawi2]

We are measuring how many animals existed at that time by how many exist today. For example God said choose 7 of every kind of bird. Obviously, today there are much more than 7 types of bird. After 4000 years those 7 types of bird have evolved into hundreds or is it thousands of types of bird?

Maybe there were just enough animals, birds etc sufficient to be the root of every future species evolving from the root of each kind of animal? For example zebras come from the horse root? Again I am no scientist, but it makes sense to me. It makes more sense to believe in God who created all things and if God created all things He is therefore fully capable of ensuring that the bible will be trustworthy for all generations

Birds originally evolved from reptiles John,and how does an eagle evolve from a Lyre-bird for example?

[John Chingford]

Birds originally evolved from reptiles John,and how does an eagle evolve from a Lyre-bird for example?

How do you know that eagles evolved from reptiles? Were you there? Again AIG website gives a convincing argument to show that reptiles could NOT have evolved into birds.

[Tawi2]

The original birds John evolved from reptiles,theres enough fossil evidence No,I wasnt there,but there again,neither were you My father always said religion is for weak willed people who cant believe in themselves so they cling to this desperate ideology of a "Higher being" I never believed in the bible john,nor god,nor jesus for that matter,but I do believe in T-rex

[jimeve]

How do you know that eagles evolved from reptiles? Were you there? Again AIG website gives a convincing argument to show that reptiles could NOT have evolved into birds.

we all evolved from a single cell. in the ocean. thats how life began.

crikey don't you watch the docs on tv

[joebloggs]

After 4000 years those 7 types of bird have evolved into hundreds or is it thousands of types of bird?

and what about my Neanderthal man was he on the ark ? if he was did he evolve in 4000years to what we are today ?

maybe Noah used them to build the ark ?

[jimeve]

Neanderthal man was European origin, and modern man was from Africa,
according to the history channel

[John Chingford]

and what about my Neanderthal man was he on the ark ? if he was did he evolve in 4000years to what we are today ?

maybe Noah used them to build the ark ?

Have you checked out the web page I gave you about Neanderthal man? There are other materials on that site that may answer your question. I dont know the answer to that question myself

[Pepe n Pilar]

We are measuring how many animals existed at that time by how many exist today. For example God said choose 7 of every kind of bird. Obviously, today there are much more than 7 types of bird. After 4000 years those 7 types of bird have evolved into hundreds or is it thousands of types of bird?

Maybe there were just enough animals, birds etc sufficient to be the root of every future species evolving from the root of each kind of animal? For example zebras come from the horse root? Again I am no scientist, but it makes sense to me. It makes more sense to believe in God who created all things and if God created all things He is therefore fully capable of ensuring that the bible will be trustworthy for all generations

Sorry John - I think what he meant was choose 7 of every species of bird, just as he asked them to choose 2 of every species of animal, not that there were only 7 species in total. Evolving all the species we have today from only 7 in 6,000 years would be some feat!

Incidentally, birds evolved from dinosaurs, not reptiles.