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    What part of "And of every living creature of every sort of flesh, two of each, you will bring into the ark" (Gen. 6:19) would lead you to suppose that every species was not represented? That is what The Bible purports. And of course, he had to feed them all for seven months and seventeen days - still think the ark was big enough?
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    Noah must have been knee-deep in dung



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe n Pilar View Post
    What part of "And of every living creature of every sort of flesh, two of each, you will bring into the ark" (Gen. 6:19) would lead you to suppose that every species was not represented? That is what The Bible purports. And of course, he had to feed them all for seven months and seventeen days - still think the ark was big enough?
    We are measuring how many animals existed at that time by how many exist today. For example God said choose 7 of every kind of bird. Obviously, today there are much more than 7 types of bird. After 4000 years those 7 types of bird have evolved into hundreds or is it thousands of types of bird?

    Maybe there were just enough animals, birds etc sufficient to be the root of every future species evolving from the root of each kind of animal? For example zebras come from the horse root? Again I am no scientist, but it makes sense to me. It makes more sense to believe in God who created all things and if God created all things He is therefore fully capable of ensuring that the bible will be trustworthy for all generations
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    We are measuring how many animals existed at that time by how many exist today. For example God said choose 7 of every kind of bird. Obviously, today there are much more than 7 types of bird. After 4000 years those 7 types of bird have evolved into hundreds or is it thousands of types of bird?

    Maybe there were just enough animals, birds etc sufficient to be the root of every future species evolving from the root of each kind of animal? For example zebras come from the horse root? Again I am no scientist, but it makes sense to me. It makes more sense to believe in God who created all things and if God created all things He is therefore fully capable of ensuring that the bible will be trustworthy for all generations
    Birds originally evolved from reptiles John,and how does an eagle evolve from a Lyre-bird for example?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Birds originally evolved from reptiles John,and how does an eagle evolve from a Lyre-bird for example?
    How do you know that eagles evolved from reptiles? Were you there? Again AIG website gives a convincing argument to show that reptiles could NOT have evolved into birds.
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    The original birds John evolved from reptiles,theres enough fossil evidence No,I wasnt there,but there again,neither were you My father always said religion is for weak willed people who cant believe in themselves so they cling to this desperate ideology of a "Higher being" I never believed in the bible john,nor god,nor jesus for that matter,but I do believe in T-rex



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    There is documented proof that the "Boat" on the slopes of Ararat is an unusual rock formation,theres plenty of photographic evidence to show it



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    When I was a kid I went to quarrington quarry in county durham with the school fossil hunting,I found several fossils a hundred feet from the roof of the quarry,fossilised in sedimentary rock how do you explain them john,a hundred foot below the surface of the soil?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    The original birds John evolved from reptiles,theres enough fossil evidence No,I wasnt there,but there again,neither were you My father always said religion is for weak willed people who cant believe in themselves so they cling to this desperate ideology of a "Higher being" I never believed in the bible john,nor god,nor jesus for that matter,but I do believe in T-rex
    shame he crashed.


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    Not Marc Bolan,I mean the dinosaurs that neanderthal men kept as pets



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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    How do you know that eagles evolved from reptiles? Were you there? Again AIG website gives a convincing argument to show that reptiles could NOT have evolved into birds.
    we all evolved from a single cell. in the ocean. thats how life began.

    crikey don't you watch the docs on tv


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimeve View Post
    we all evolved from a single cell. in the ocean. thats how life began.

    crikey don't you watch the docs on tv
    With all respect, yes I do, but those who put trhese documentaries together are strongly biassed against God and religion. They teach as if "fact" never admitting that their conclusions to the findings are their own ideas (theories). If it is not fact they should state so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    After 4000 years those 7 types of bird have evolved into hundreds or is it thousands of types of bird?
    and what about my Neanderthal man was he on the ark ? if he was did he evolve in 4000years to what we are today ?

    maybe Noah used them to build the ark ?


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    Neanderthal man was European origin, and modern man was from Africa,
    according to the history channel


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    and what about my Neanderthal man was he on the ark ? if he was did he evolve in 4000years to what we are today ?

    maybe Noah used them to build the ark ?
    Have you checked out the web page I gave you about Neanderthal man? There are other materials on that site that may answer your question. I dont know the answer to that question myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    We are measuring how many animals existed at that time by how many exist today. For example God said choose 7 of every kind of bird. Obviously, today there are much more than 7 types of bird. After 4000 years those 7 types of bird have evolved into hundreds or is it thousands of types of bird?

    Maybe there were just enough animals, birds etc sufficient to be the root of every future species evolving from the root of each kind of animal? For example zebras come from the horse root? Again I am no scientist, but it makes sense to me. It makes more sense to believe in God who created all things and if God created all things He is therefore fully capable of ensuring that the bible will be trustworthy for all generations
    Sorry John - I think what he meant was choose 7 of every species of bird, just as he asked them to choose 2 of every species of animal, not that there were only 7 species in total. Evolving all the species we have today from only 7 in 6,000 years would be some feat!

    Incidentally, birds evolved from dinosaurs, not reptiles.
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    Dinosaur's were reptiles,the word translates into terrible lizard,a lizard is a reptile



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe n Pilar View Post
    Sorry John - I think what he meant was choose 7 of every species of bird, just as he asked them to choose 2 of every species of animal, not that there were only 7 species in total. Evolving all the species we have today from only 7 in 6,000 years would be some feat!

    Incidentally, birds evolved from dinosaurs, not reptiles.
    what did reptiles evolved from.... dinosaurs.


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    I just checked online,dinosaurs were reptilian,birds evolved from reptiles



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    Any form of religious debate always elicits a massive response



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Any form of religious debate always elicits a massive response
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    I just checked online,dinosaurs were reptilian,birds evolved from reptiles
    saw one flying around Torchwood.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    I just checked online,dinosaurs were reptilian,birds evolved from reptiles
    So you believe everything you read online? This is what I find. The world is being brainwashed into believing as fact something which is NOT cast iron proof. So the world would rather believe in anything other than a God who they must give account to for their life.
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    what about the Karim, must be a twist in the tale there eh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    So you believe everything you read online? This is what I find. The world is being brainwashed into believing as fact something which is NOT cast iron proof. So the world would rather believe in anything other than a God who they must give account to for their life.
    I am fairly open minded John,not brainwashed into anything and that includes the existance of god or the fictional jesus



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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    So you believe everything you read online? This is what I find. The world is being brainwashed into believing as fact something which is NOT cast iron proof. So the world would rather believe in anything other than a God who they must give account to for their life.
    nope but why do you?

    you keep posting that link and now your posting stuff from that sight,i have to give it to you for trying to get us to read it but i cant lie,i didnt
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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