The Great Evolution Deception

[Tawi2]

The original birds John evolved from reptiles,theres enough fossil evidence No,I wasnt there,but there again,neither were you My father always said religion is for weak willed people who cant believe in themselves so they cling to this desperate ideology of a "Higher being" I never believed in the bible john,nor god,nor jesus for that matter,but I do believe in T-rex

[Tawi2]

There is documented proof that the "Boat" on the slopes of Ararat is an unusual rock formation,theres plenty of photographic evidence to show it

[Tawi2]

When I was a kid I went to quarrington quarry in county durham with the school fossil hunting,I found several fossils a hundred feet from the roof of the quarry,fossilised in sedimentary rock how do you explain them john,a hundred foot below the surface of the soil?

[John Chingford]

When I was a kid I went to quarrington quarry in county durham with the school fossil hunting,I found several fossils a hundred feet from the roof of the quarry,fossilised in sedimentary rock how do you explain them john,a hundred foot below the surface of the soil?

The global flood of Noah created them. As I understand it fossils are created by sudden death happening on a wide scale caused by a large amount of water, volcanic activity and mudslides etc. Exactly what happened at the flood.

[KeithD]

The global flood of Noah created them. As I understand it fossils are created by sudden death happening on a wide scale caused by a large amount of water, volcanic activity and mudslides etc. Exactly what happened at the flood.

Just two very minor points......
Fossils are created individually at any time, and the amount of time depends on where they are, but it does need enough deposits to make enough weight to turn it into stone. Where would Billions of tons of deposits come from in one go, considering Noah's flood came from rain that would not shift enough debri.

But more importantly, their just is not enough water on this planet to do what it says in the Bible, only enough to flood, if all the ice meltded sea level would rise no more than 300ft, I'd still have to drive miles to get to the beach .....but at least Manchester will be gone .....and Liverpool We'd still have Tranmere though

[John Chingford]

Just two very minor points......
Fossils are created individually at any time, and the amount of time depends on where they are, but it does need enough deposits to make enough weight to turn it into stone. Where would Billions of tons of deposits come from in one go, considering Noah's flood came from rain that would not shift enough debri.

But more importantly, their just is not enough water on this planet to do what it says in the Bible, only enough to flood, if all the ice meltded sea level would rise no more than 300ft, I'd still have to drive miles to get to the beach .....but at least Manchester will be gone .....and Liverpool We'd still have Tranmere though

I saw a documentary on how quickly volcanic mountains can explode and rise up again eg Krakatoa (unsure of spelling). Apparently just a matter of a few years. At the time of the flood volcanic activity was vast opening up masses of rivers underground as well as floods from the heavens (not just rain) and probably the highest mountains remaining were not so high at that time. The landscape of the earth would have changed dramatically since the flood. It could be that the earth was much flatter at that time. Also, the ark rested on mount ararat - even now not the highest mountain, but it could have been much lower at that time. Valleys may have not been so deep etc. So it is plausible that the water could have flooded the whole earth

[KeithD]

.....and probably the highest mountains remaining were not so high at that time. The landscape of the earth would have changed dramatically since the flood. It could be that the earth was much flatter at that time. Also, the ark rested on mount ararat - even now not the highest mountain, but it could have been much lower at that time.......

Not much FACT in those comments then!!

Whereas the highest point on the planet was more than 300ft 6000 years ago FACT, so rules out a flood as no extra water magically appeared and then vanished as no one has any proof, and none can be found.

[John Chingford]

I saw a documentary on how quickly volcanic mountains can explode and rise up again eg Krakatoa (unsure of spelling). Apparently just a matter of a few years. At the time of the flood volcanic activity was vast opening up masses of rivers underground as well as floods from the heavens (not just rain) and probably the highest mountains remaining were not so high at that time. The landscape of the earth would have changed dramatically since the flood. It could be that the earth was much flatter at that time. Also, the ark rested on mount ararat - even now not the highest mountain, but it could have been much lower at that time. Valleys may have not been so deep etc. So it is plausible that the water could have flooded the whole earth

Just to add to my quote. I remember something else about the doc. I saw. I believe it was Krakatoa or some other volcano. They showed by film evidence that this mountain was flattened by the volcano causing the island to sink. However, within a matter of a few years the island rose again as the mountain rose again. If this happens in a short space of time, how can we be so dogmatic about stating that things take millions or billions of years to occur?

[John Chingford]

Just two very minor points......
Fossils are created individually at any time, and the amount of time depends on where they are, but it does need enough deposits to make enough weight to turn it into stone. Where would Billions of tons of deposits come from in one go, considering Noah's flood came from rain that would not shift enough debri.

But more importantly, their just is not enough water on this planet to do what it says in the Bible, only enough to flood, if all the ice meltded sea level would rise no more than 300ft, I'd still have to drive miles to get to the beach .....but at least Manchester will be gone .....and Liverpool We'd still have Tranmere though

Tranmere for the cup then!

[jimeve]

The original birds John evolved from reptiles,theres enough fossil evidence No,I wasnt there,but there again,neither were you My father always said religion is for weak willed people who cant believe in themselves so they cling to this desperate ideology of a "Higher being" I never believed in the bible john,nor god,nor jesus for that matter,but I do believe in T-rex

shame he crashed.

[Tawi2]

Not Marc Bolan,I mean the dinosaurs that neanderthal men kept as pets

[Tawi2]

The title of the thread john should actually be "The great biblical deception" because you cant just explain away evolution etc as easily as that

[jimeve]

Not Marc Bolan,I mean the dinosaurs that neanderthal men kept as pets

couldn't resist