What do British feel?

[pennybarry]

If someone badly criticized our country (Pinas), we feel sometimes upset. These past few months, some head of the countries critized and gave bad comments about Britain government. What do British feel about this?


Last time, Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe said there's demons at #10 Downing st.
This past few days, Ayatollah Khamenei's described the British government as "evil"

Are they telling true? Are there many evils here than Zimbabwe and Iran?

[nigel]

I think every government in every country is probably guilty of some atrocity, I love all people though, they are no less important than the sun!

Worst atrocity has got to be America dropping that bomb on Hiroshima..

[pennybarry]

I think every government in every country is probably guilty of some atrocity, I love all people though, they are no less important than the sun!

Worst atrocity has got to be America dropping that bomb on Hiroshima..

Yes that bombed was worst but Japanese were also worst during that war. My Mom and Dad, grandparents told us some bad history against Japanese.

But Japanese felt guilty about their wrongs and did changed for better now.

Konnichiwa!!! Arigato!!!

[IainBusby]

I think that the real problem here is that the leaders of countries like this don't understand the concept of a free press or the right of people to dissent, because in their countries the press and protests of any kind are both strictly controlled by the state. They therefore assume that anything that is said in the British newspapers, TV, or by political commentators is dictated by the British government.
Iain.

[KeithD]

I tend to join in slating this country

Worst atrocity has got to be America dropping that bomb on Hiroshima..

So Hitler wo started the war which cost millions of lives was better then?

[nigel]

I tend to join in slating this country


So Hitler wo started the war which cost millions of lives was better then?

Hitler was just a big gay pansy that wore womens kinky boots and did a gay walk! He took charge of the poof waffe...I mean the luft waffe!

If he wanted us to take him seriously why didn't he shave that stupid gay half inch mustache off?

[KeithD]

If he wanted us to take him seriously why didn't he shave that stupid gay half inch mustache off?

A lot of women have them these days.....but not on the face

[Tawi2]

Hitler bequeathed that stupid lip eyebrow to his fellow madman Mgabwe We aint really bothered what people say about us Pen sticks and stones will break our bones but names wont really hurt us

[somebody]

If someone badly criticized our country (Pinas), we feel sometimes upset. These past few months, some head of the countries critized and gave bad comments about Britain government. What do British feel about this?


Last time, Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe said there's demons at #10 Downing st.
This past few days, Ayatollah Khamenei's described the British government as "evil"

Are they telling true? Are there many evils here than Zimbabwe and Iran?

Like tawi2 said just words.

Like if in worklife everytime someone who knows you indirectly said a bad word or was critical about you, and you got worried about it. But its always worth taking and inward look to see if the criticism is valid. In many cases it is with the UK. with this bloke, I just think its because in the eyes of many Iranians the UK and US are like Brothers and the US they want to leave alone possibly?

[pennybarry]

Hitler bequeathed that stupid lip eyebrow to his fellow madman Mgabwe We aint really bothered what people say about us Pen sticks and stones will break our bones but names wont really hurt us

Like tawi2 said just words.

Like if in worklife everytime someone who knows you indirectly said a bad word or was critical about you, and you got worried about it. But its always worth taking and inward look to see if the criticism is valid. In many cases it is with the UK. with this bloke, I just think its because in the eyes of many Iranians the UK and US are like Brothers and the US they want to leave alone possibly?

Thanks Tawi and Somebody!!!
I understand now about UK parliament debate. It's just words and not stones. I have noticed after debate, it seems nothing happened

Filipinas (not all) are sensitive. Sometimes, even in this forum, members became enemies just because of bad comments against someone. This happens really even if they don't meet yet. I witnessed this to some members.
No offense please!!! I think we need to change for good. Wake up! We are filipino british

[Tawi2]

Penny,I have read through old posts of long-gone members,you watch a little word,someone says something wrong,then the flames flicker and its a raging fire,they never speak again One word.......Kinesics

[pennybarry]

Penny,I have read through old posts of long-gone members,you watch a little word,someone says something wrong,then the flames flicker and its a raging fire,they never speak again One word.......Kinesics

Ehehehhe I google the word Kinesics as it's sounds new to me. Never heard it before

You're right and you're absolutely aware of what's happening around

We have something in common but u r more brilliant

[Tawi2]

Not brilliant pen,just used to have a job where a knowledge of body-language,and the ability to read people was useful,people are easy to understand,but equally as easy to misunderstand

[somebody]

Thanks Tawi and Somebody!!!
I understand now about UK parliament debate. It's just words and not stones. I have noticed after debate, it seems nothing happened

Filipinas (not all) are sensitive. Sometimes, even in this forum, members became enemies just because of bad comments against someone. This happens really even if they don't meet yet. I witnessed this to some members.
No offense please!!! I think we need to change for good. Wake up! We are filipino british

Very true those that get on with life well (does not always mean wealth) seem to be able to handle comments good and bad and take them in their stride.

I noticed many phills seem to find that hard. For example my Wife finds it hard when either her bosses at work give her a critcal but overall a good review. But slowly in her own time she realises they are being good to her.

See how many Brits on here are sometimes harsh in the way they help people. Telling them the blunt truth. But its often for the persons own good.

Its also many British people to only be rude or cheeky to those who they know or feel comfortable with.

[Tawi2]

Thats true,we have a tendency as a nation to be blunt to the point of rudeness at times,we arent the most tactful of people,I call my mates wa**ers etc,etc,they are equally as rude to me but its without malice Pinoys have a tendency to err on the side of caution,going way overboard not to offend someone Its a little thing called saving face

[somebody]

Thats true,we have a tendency as a nation to be blunt to the point of rudeness at times,we arent the most tactful of people,I call my mates wa**ers etc,etc,they are equally as rude to me but its without malice Pinoys have a tendency to err on the side of caution,going way overboard not to offend someone Its a little thing called saving face

I remeber speaking to one of the Wifes cousins who is a lawyer in Manila and works with yanks and Brits. She didn't understand the British very polite to those they don't know so well and always teasing and almost rude to one another

Our Family group as we dropped off the Cousin at her place in town she works at bumped into a bunch of the Brits. So we ended up all eating together at first all us Brits very polite with one another by the end of the night we are taking the mick out of our differences. I.e those from up north and south etc, football teams etc.

All the phills were baffled We had gone from Brit politness to almost open warfare

[pennybarry]

Very true those that get on with life well (does not always mean wealth) seem to be able to handle comments good and bad and take them in their stride.

I noticed many phills seem to find that hard. For example my Wife finds it hard when either her bosses at work give her a critcal but overall a good review. But slowly in her own time she realises they are being good to her.

See how many Brits on here are sometimes harsh in the way they help people. Telling them the blunt truth. But its often for the persons own good.

Its also many British people to only be rude or cheeky to those who they know or feel comfortable with.

Well said Somebody

My hubby is the same, if he is trying to correct my fault, I knew he was right as he knows more than I knew but sometimes i don't like his ways to correct me as I feel he's harsh. But then I correct his way too as I cannot tolerate his way.

My boss at factory was the same. He is one of the most honourable boss I've ever had here. But sometimes he looks harsh if machines are in trouble.
One time, I had a word with him. I said, you're one the best boss I've ever had but I don't like you talking to machines if in trouble. You look crazy he laughed

I'm learning too much in Britain. And hubby's family alway said you're learning fast

[Pepe n Pilar]

If someone badly criticized our country (Pinas), we feel sometimes upset. These past few months, some head of the countries critized and gave bad comments about Britain government. What do British feel about this?


Last time, Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe said there's demons at #10 Downing st.
This past few days, Ayatollah Khamenei's described the British government as "evil"

Are they telling true? Are there many evils here than Zimbabwe and Iran?

When someone criticises the Philippines of course filipinos feel bad about it especially if the critic is a fellow filipino. Some say that they didn't have a good life out there hence they are just being "sour grapes"...

Yes that bombed was worst but Japanese were also worst during that war. My Mom and Dad, grandparents told us some bad history against Japanese.

But Japanese felt guilty about their wrongs and did changed for better now.

Konnichiwa!!! Arigato!!!

My paternal grandmother told us stories and their experiences during the WW11. I have heard so much brutality done by the Japanese to the filipinos from my parents and grandparents. Although we didn't experience it but our grandparents/parents did, so we somehow has hate/grudges felt to the japenese. Shall we apply the forgive and forget sayings here?.. I guess so..

Filipinas (not all) are sensitive. Sometimes, even in this forum, members became enemies just because of bad comments against someone. This happens really even if they don't meet yet. I witnessed this to some members.
No offense please!!! I think we need to change for good. Wake up! We are filipino british

What??? members here became enemies??? bad comments against someone??? who are they?... I read a thread one time and i was surprised they mentioned very private matters. I guess if those are very private or just concerning the two of them why not use the PM rather than post it in the forum? Forum replies/posts should be intended only to the subject matter...

Same with me Penny i have notice it too and it's disgusting to know that people had never met yet or some had met in person but targeting personal matters in the forum.

If there are topics here that members find it interesting and/or they have something to contribute or share to others they reply to the best of their knowledge and when some noticed it is the opposite of their beliefs/views they are offended...

May a person be Filipino or British it doesn't matter, what is important is he/she maintains those good traits and dump old and rubbish ones....

Cheers!

[Pepe n Pilar]

I just want to thank someone who gave me a good rep just now. I don't know who is he/she but it's on this thread..

Thank you very much indeed!

[pennybarry]

I just want to thank someone who gave me a good rep just now. I don't know who is he/she but it's on this thread..

Thank you very much indeed!

U'r welcome

[aposhark]

Hi Penny,

I think everyone is proud of their own country and often object to others who knock it.
However, it is ok to knock your own country, as this is one of the ways that public opinion grows to perhaps make a change.
"People Power" in the Philippines was a great example of this.

If only we in the UK could organize "People Power" and overhaul our corrupt politicians. It seems the Daily Telegraph is doing a great job in exposing corruption here.

[pennybarry]

Hi Penny,

I think everyone is proud of their own country and often object to others who knock it.
However, it is ok to knock your own country, as this is one of the ways that public opinion grows to perhaps make a change.
"People Power" in the Philippines was a great example of this.

If only we in the UK could organize "People Power" and overhaul our corrupt politicians. It seems the Daily Telegraph is doing a great job in exposing corruption here.

UK expenses is recorded whilst Philippines, I can't remember if we have records. Media can do nothing too much with corruptions, they know they will be killed if they will expose too much in papers. How many journalists killed? I can't remember

http://www.ifex.org/philippines/2009...illed_in_2008/
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=45128

Still hoping that someday, corruption in Pinas will be declined if not eliminated.

[Tawi2]

If we have a corruption expose at least in the UK mostly they have the good grace to bow out with a modicum of face,in pinas walang hiya,they hang on like lamoks and refuse to leave office,I remember the rice crisis when the Agri minister was interviewed "Now is not the time to point the finger of blame,we should instead address the problem" which is poli-talk for "S**t,I f***ed up big time" we do have some accountability here,pinas its all deniability,and pen is right about Journos,I spoke to one earlier this year involved in a shabu case,he said he didnt dare say too much

[somebody]

If we have a corruption expose at least in the UK mostly they have the good grace to bow out with a modicum of face,in pinas walang hiya,they hang on like lamoks and refuse to leave office,I remember the rice crisis when the Agri minister was interviewed "Now is not the time to point the finger of blame,we should instead address the problem" which is poli-talk for "S**t,I f***ed up big time" we do have some accountability here,pinas its all deniability,and pen is right about Journos,I spoke to one earlier this year involved in a shabu case,he said he didnt dare say too much

The people behind the Telegraph leak were very worried about what might happen.

Least us forget DR Davd Kelly....

[Tawi2]

David Kelly was reported as suicide,though I am not as green as I am cabbage looking The telegraph were worried.but nowt did happen,pinoy politics is far dirtier,they blatantly buy your votes,no pretence or subtrefuge that its fair

[pennybarry]

If we have a corruption expose at least in the UK mostly they have the good grace to bow out with a modicum of face,in pinas walang hiya,they hang on like lamoks and refuse to leave office,I remember the rice crisis when the Agri minister was interviewed "Now is not the time to point the finger of blame,we should instead address the problem" which is poli-talk for "S**t,I f***ed up big time" we do have some accountability here,pinas its all deniability,and pen is right about Journos,I spoke to one earlier this year involved in a shabu case,he said he didnt dare say too much

Shabu case???? Do you know who mostly involved in drugs? The one you spoke with will never ever tell you who's involved if bigtime lords. But most Lords are rich. Gambling Lords, Drug Lords, what else?

[Tawi2]

Pen,theres a region called baluchistan down on the Pakistan/Iran border,I went there once,also the Rif valley in Morocco,those big compounds with the huge 4X4's and the big sattelite dishes,Hmmmm,I wonder where they got their money in such arid regions