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    The Great Evolution Deception

    We have been duped by the lies of those who want a reason to ignore their consciences or justify why they can do what they want. Evolutionists and scientists state their findings as if fact. They say that the Big Bang actually happened, but it is NOT a fact it is a theory!!!!!! They ignore the real test of science which is making discoveries by examination and real evidence.

    To all scientists, evolutionists etc I challenge you: were you there when the so called big bang happened? Also, it sounds incredibly ludicrous to state that "in the beginning NOTHING exploded". There has always got to be cause and effect. How can nothing cause an explosion?

    In fact, ALL explanations of fossils etc can be explained by the global flood of Noah in Genesis. Even in our day discoveries have been found by those who do not have a closed mind that fossils have been produced in front of our eyes under the right conditions. Some fossils have been found that have been aged at millions of years, but actually it has taken a matter of weeks to develop because of catastrophic events like volcano, floods etc

    Please see www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers

    This website is incredible. It has made great discoveries which gives strong evidence that evolutionists have got it completely wrong and bring great doubts into the ageing techniques scientists use. They have very strong arguments to show that this world is MUCH younger than science professors state as shown by many evidences they have found. Do not be scared to be confronted bvy truth. If you truly have an open mind and are convinced of what you believe then it wont cause you harm to check it out, unless you want to believe the lie?
    As the days of Noah were so shall be the coming of the Son of Man........ When You see these things happening, know that the time is close.
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    Unlike most religious people you will find that most scientists accept what they put forward is only theory although they are often called 'laws'.

    Do some research and try reading some Kuhn's theory of paradigms.

    Scintists don't spend their time trying to prove things but trying to disprove theories.

    Their work is based on empirical observation for which they propose a theory of cause and effect. This is accepted until disproved and a new theory becomes the paradigm.

    Yes some things can be faked but this does not disprove the theory behind fossils, evolution, gravity etc.

    Open your mind you might learn something useful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    This post and the website are a joke, right?

    Normally, I would see the funny side, but, incredibly, some people want to see this drivel taught in schools. That's ridiculous!


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    What I do not like is that those who teach evolution and put dates on the age of the earth do not state it is theory but teach it as if it is fact. You read in books or hear on TV and documentaries and it is taught in schools and universities that the age of something is millions or billions of years old but do not add "it is thought to be or it is just a theory". Therefore most of the people in the world believe it to be a fact because that is the way it is taught.

    I just want to readress the issue as I am fed up with the lies.
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    I once had a debate with a west african who told me that scientists had buried T-rex fossils to fool the masses I have also been to the tomb of jesus christ in kashmir in India Incestuous lot if we are all descended from a single couple,surprised we havent got more inbred defects Anyone play Duelling-banjoes like Billy Redden?



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    Answers In Genesis are a serious organisation who do nothing else but research, investigate and examine evidence. They are a global organisation with many scientists working for them.

    Actually it is a joke to believe such monstrocities that are taught in the schools etc. There is MUCH evidence to prove that things age much quicker than you think. Many discoveries have been found in our day that prove that (under the right conditions) things are produced very quickly. As scientists have watched it with their own eyes in their own lifetime it is PROOF! What is NOT proof is theorising something you cannot substantiate because no-one is alive who has lived that long!

    I wouldn't be surprised if we discover fossils developing in our day after the tsunami in South Asia. Watch this space!
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    So Jurrassic park isnt real then



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    Regarding incest. Sin is only sin if God forbids it. If He created everything He has the right to say what is right or wrong. He set the rules for our own good. At the beginning He stated that the first couple should be responsible for filling the Earth with people. God called it incest and a sin much later at the time of Moses (about 2000 years later).

    God created the first couple perfect and to live for eternity but stated that if they sinned their bodies would start to decay "on the day you eat of it you will die". Ever since that time death and corruption has entered the human race, but it took 2000 years for the full impact of that corruption to reduce our life span to about 80ish years. By the time of Moses, incest was called incest because it had now become harmful to continue the practice
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    In fact, ALL explanations of fossils etc can be explained by the global flood of Noah in Genesis.


    i didn't know Noah was a Neanderthal or Noah was around 350,000 - 600,000 years ago


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    Please check out answers in genesis for yourself. You will be surprised what you find. They do not deny that dinosaurs existed but they argue that humans and dinos lived at same time. For example caves have been found showing paintings of dinos. The bible mentions dragons (the bible word for dinos).
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    The very concept of Incest is disgusting,have you SEEN my brother No way!!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    What is NOT proof is theorising something you cannot substantiate because no-one is alive who has lived that long!
    This is ridiculous.

    Check out this link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating

    If you believe the science behind radiocarbon dating is flawed, please provide your evidence and calculations.


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    The global flood caused such catastrophies. There were earthquakes, volcanos. The earth opened up underground floods as well as the torrents from above the earth. Genesis tells us that above the whole earth was a firmament of water and that it had never rained on the earth until the flood. The tremendous action of all these things happening at the same time caused things on the earth to happen and develop very quickly. I am no expert and cannot explain it as well as AIG. I suggest you read their material and watch their videos. As far as I am concerned it is very conclusive to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post


    i didn't know Noah was a Neanderthal or Noah was around 350,000 - 600,000 years ago
    Gosh was it that long ago, don't time fly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesey View Post
    This is ridiculous.

    Check out this link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating

    If you believe the science behind radiocarbon dating is flawed, please provide your evidence and calculations.
    It would take too long to tackle that here. However, www.answersingenesis.org argue the flaws of carbon dating very well. If you are open minded I suggest you read their material on the subject
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    Theres approx 4600 different species of mammal on the face of the planet John,how big was Noahs boat?



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    According to the Bible: Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago.

    ok, so what does the bible say about Neanderthal man ???

    can't find anything on your site


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    Yup,what happened to nearderthal,cro-magnon,homo erectus?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Theres approx 4600 different species of mammal on the face of the planet John,how big was Noahs boat?
    never ending to, the gastrotrich (a minute aquatic animal) lives for only three days, just as you've found one, you would have to find another one

    maybe the T-rex died out because Noah couldn't fit one in his ark


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    How would you feed a T-rex?How many extra elephants would you have to put on a T-rex chow?Thats the thing about religious people,blinkered,I always said the bible was a story written and amended over the years,a bit like Hans Christian Andersons books,parchment,scrolls,you know the sort of stuff,the bible is just a chronicle,factional maybe,but its not 100% accurate to the letter.Not that John is wrong in his belief,its just not shared by everyone,and as his belief it does actually need respecting



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    How would you feed a T-rex?How many extra elephants would you have to put on a T-rex chow?Thats the thing about religious people,blinkered,I always said the bible was a story written and amended over the years,a bit like Hans Christian Andersons books,parchment,scrolls,you know the sort of stuff,the bible is just a chronicle,factional maybe,but its not 100% accurate to the letter.Not that John is wrong in his belief,its just not shared by everyone,and as his belief it does actually need respecting
    could be right there Tawi2, maybe it starved to death, as it would have probably eaten everything on the ark within the 40 days if Noah had let it

    sorry for poking fun at you john, but i just can't see it happened that way

    the Sumerian people were around 4,500bc, before dinosaurs ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    According to the Bible: Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago.

    ok, so what does the bible say about Neanderthal man ???

    can't find anything on your site
    If you use the search key on any subject it probably gives you an answer. That is what I just did and found this on their website. Please click on:

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/medi...nced-evolution
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Chingford View Post
    What I do not like is that those who teach evolution and put dates on the age of the earth do not state it is theory but teach it as if it is fact.
    That may have something to do with the FACT we know the decay rate of Carbon, so SIMPLE maths is used to back date something We can time the decay in our own lifetimes. You are decaying now.....your brain faster than the rest of you by the looks of it!

    By the way it is officially called 'The Big Bang Theory' for a reason

    EVERY single Creationist argument has been proven wrong so far, they have not proven one idea.

    Next you'll be questioning the speed of light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    That may have something to do with the FACT we know the decay rate of Carbon, so SIMPLE maths is used to back date something We can time the decay in our own lifetimes. You are decaying now.....your brain faster than the rest of you by the looks of it!

    By the way it is officially called 'The Big Bang Theory' for a reason

    EVERY single Creationist argument has been proven wrong so far, they have not proven one idea.

    Next you'll be questioning the speed of light

    What is the speed of light
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    Quote Originally Posted by somebody View Post
    What is the speed of light
    6,000 years per person looking at it
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    Dear John - I am actually very open minded and do believe in a higher power. However, it does make me laugh when you make a comment like: "were you there when the so called big bang happened?" to which I would ask; were you there when God supposedly created the Universe in only 6 days? And while we are on the subject of "As in the days of Noah", please explain to me how he managed to get one pair of every species on earth into an ark that was, using the actual measurements in cubits, not very big. To collect one pair of just every insect species on earth would require something the size of a small stadium and for a pair of every mammal you would need a whole town. I don't mind people having their own views, but at least check your own facts before trashing everyone elses. :-)

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    CRUEL Johns brain isnt actually decaying faster than the rest of him,but some of his theorys stretch the imagination somewhat



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    God created the world in 6 days It took me that long just to erect an MFI flat-pack wardrobe He must have had the "60 minute makeover" team working double-time



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    Interestingly, the speed of light is a scientifically proven fact. So, if we are seeing light from galaxies that are almost 14 billion years old, how can the Universe only be 6,000 years old?
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