thanks a lot to all and i am now collating all my docs. sorry for the late reply i got a lot on i am getting married (again) on 3 aug 09, got my life in the uk test this coming 8th of july (nerve wrecking i am on chapter 6) and my fiance gave me a surprise ticket to the phils (travelling with my two kids and husband by that time) so right now i am quite mixed up but many thanks iain, louella, mrs j major, penny, and everyone i haven't mentioned but who in a way has really helped. i'll keep in touch