oh the lady at the post office may be wrong then!she told me to get the original birth certificate of my girlfriend and son sent over from the philipines,bring them to her with my passport she will help me fill out the application form!then i send it to my girlfriend in the philipines for her to take to her doctor to sign the passport photos and fill in part 10 i belive!then my girlfriend sends the application form back to me,the lady at the post office will check the form is filled out correctly!then i send off the application!as i am in england! is this right joebloggs,your gettin me worried mate