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    Careful in what you download using bittorrent

    I don't know if any of you heard from some people who have received a threatening letter from a law firm in London about file sharing. According to the news they have sent about 25,000 letters and asking to pay money starting from £500 - £750 for downloading a game/music/video.

    Just be careful or better yet don't do anymore downloads.


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    You don't get done for downloading, the industry goes for the uploaders.

    Anyway, you should be using Newsgroups

    I only download things to test them, if any good I either put up a review somewhere to sell it myself, and if I'm going to use it full-time I buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    .........Anyway, you should be using Newsgroups
    I used to use the newsgroups a lot a few years ago.
    Any recommendations for a good ISP with unlimited bandwidth and newsgroups?


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    I used to use the newsgroups a lot a few years ago.
    Any recommendations for a good ISP with unlimited bandwidth and newsgroups?
    thats what i'm looking for
    i'm on bulldog but no newgroups, which is owned by tiscali and they are owned by pipex now i think...

    maybe i'll change to O2, dont think there is newsgroups with o2 thou..


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    thats what i'm looking for
    i'm on bulldog but no newgroups, which is owned by tiscali and they are owned by pipex now i think...

    maybe i'll change to O2, dont think there is newsgroups with o2 thou..
    I was with Bulldog a few years ago and was on the ng then.
    I heard they went bankrupt and were bought out.
    Seems the new owners don't like people using bandwidth then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    I was with Bulldog a few years ago and was on the ng then.
    I heard they went bankrupt and were bought out.
    Seems the new owners don't like people using bandwidth then.
    nope i've got no problems with bulldog, no cap or limits, the only problem is the price , cost me £40 a month inc line rental, many are half that price now, maybe i should give them a call and get £10 knocked off for the next 6 months, telling them i want my MAC key

    i could sign up for a newsbin account but i like rapidshare and megashare just dont like the fact of the logs, but any provider can log your uploads/downloads..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    You don't get done for downloading, the industry goes for the uploaders.

    Anyway, you should be using Newsgroups

    I only download things to test them..

    I am feeling a bit grumpy tonight.... so being nice is out till Monday AM !

    Downloading any software and using it without paying is still.." wrong".
    If its a trial, you have a time limit, hack it , crack it, keygen it.... no excuses.

    "Testing" is not an excuse.. unless its the official trial software which runs for the allowed period before packing in.
    The only reason I post...is to stop others following your example through lack of knowledge and maybe coming unstuck one day.

    Excepting freeware, all other stuff needs the user to purchase a licence/ serial number/ctivation key.

    Likewise downloading from the torrent sites or similar sources,anything that others have hacked, cracked or fettled in any way...is .... "wrong".


    OK, just going out to kick the cat and I should be OK after that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arturo View Post
    I am feeling a bit grumpy tonight.... so being nice is out till Monday AM !
    Don't make promises when you are in JOY. Don't reply when you are SAD.
    Don't take decisions when you are ANGRY. Think twice, Act wise. BE happy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arturo View Post
    Downloading any software and using it without paying is still.." wrong".
    If its a trial, you have a time limit, hack it , crack it, keygen it.... no excuses.
    same as using a photocopier is wrong unless you've got written permission from the copyright holder, also using a dvd recorder because you don't own the copyright or have their permission, etc

    just as working on the side for cash in hand is wrong, also MP's who claimed for anything and everything is wrong, but walk away free, looks to me some things are more wrong than others..


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    and any threatening letter asking for money is IMMEDIATELY suspicious.
    Kosher legal firms tend to sue people rather than blackmail them.


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    Some maties had letters like this from a Kosher law firm (all checked out at the time cant rember the details but could ask if needed) they ignored.
    Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops


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    what about personal/private use of downloaded movies about 1-3 movies a month? Is't bad?
    Not an expert, I only try to help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyJ View Post
    what about personal/private use of downloaded movies about 1-3 movies a month? Is't bad?
    if its downloaded from bit torrents its still illegal. If its downloaded (and normally paid for) from regular sites its normally legal.
    Its all about copyright protection and royalties.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarBell379 View Post
    if its downloaded from bit torrents its still illegal. If its downloaded (and normally paid for) from regular sites its normally legal.
    Its all about copyright protection and royalties.
    OK thanks! will have to remind my husband.
    Not an expert, I only try to help.


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    i file share 24/7 only ever had 1 letter from my isp


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    Quote Originally Posted by trader dave View Post
    i file share 24/7 only ever had 1 letter from my isp
    what did they said?
    Not an expert, I only try to help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyJ View Post
    what about personal/private use of downloaded movies about 1-3 movies a month? Is't bad?
    Technically yep, if they had the evidence you had downloaded one film they could prosecute.

    But as Mr admin po leader of the flip uk web world says they really want to go after the people who make it avaiable. So if you allow people to upload films and of course if you a heavy user both downloading and uploading.
    Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops


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    Quote Originally Posted by somebody View Post
    Technically yep, if they had the evidence you had downloaded one film they could prosecute.

    But as Mr admin po leader of the flip uk web world says they really want to go after the people who make it avaiable. So if you allow people to upload films and of course if you a heavy user both downloading and uploading.
    i think if the film has been broadcast on tv, its fair game, is it illegal to record it on your dvd recorder or sky box, if so then what are they meant to record then ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    i think if the film has been broadcast on tv, its fair game, is it illegal to record it on your dvd recorder or sky box, if so then what are they meant to record then ??
    I think you can keep for a set amount of time keep videos "legally". But many have videos recorded years ago im sure

    Even at sports events its not allowed to take pictures or videos. But rarely would a steward actually do anything.

    We all know many do it and unlikely to get any problems, but on a forum where many people dont know what actually is legal/ilegal as new residents in the UK we should warn just so they are aware.

    I.e just as us brits may be not aware of all phill rules n regs

    But im sure Lady J and her family can make a decision best for them
    Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops


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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyJ View Post
    what about personal/private use of downloaded movies about 1-3 movies a month? Is't bad?
    A friend of mine got a letter from this firm (ACS:Law, they said it used to be Davenport Solicitors) accused her of alleged file sharing. So now they are asking her to pay for amount of money (as a settlement) for the damage it had caused to the file she downloaded/uploaded. The said file was a Scooter album and it was downloaded/uploaded back in 2008 and she had received the letter a week ago. If she won't pay the money in 21 days they would take her to court. I think it's a harrasment, the only evidence they got is an ISP. What if she hasn't got a secured network or if she has what if someone hacked it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    You don't get done for downloading, the industry goes for the uploaders.
    Apparently, this one doesn't care whether you do upload or download.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lost_bulak View Post
    I don't know if any of you heard from some people who have received a threatening letter from a law firm in London about file sharing. According to the news they have sent about 25,000 letters and asking to pay money starting from £500 - £750 for downloading a game/music/video.

    Just be careful or better yet don't do anymore downloads.
    Being a self-confessed Luddite, I shouldn't imagine this will apply to ME, since virtually the only time I use OUR computer is to pursue my "addiction" to the filipino/uk forum [as my "long-suffering" wife will surely testify!] oh ... no ... wait a minute ... SHE utilises it first thing each morning to keep in touch with her relatives and friends in the Phils, so that they, in turn, can receive her messages during what is late afternoon/early evening there and reply by text on their mobile phones when work is over for the day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Being a self-confessed Luddite, I shouldn't imagine this will apply to ME, since virtually the only time I use OUR computer is to pursue my "addiction" to the filipino/uk forum [as my "long-suffering" wife will surely testify!] oh ... no ... wait a minute ... SHE utilises it first thing each morning to keep in touch with her relatives and friends in the Phils, so that they, in turn, can receive her messages during what is late afternoon/early evening there and reply by text on their mobile phones when work is over for the day.
    Hopefully your right and never have any issues like the ones mentioned. But as Joe posted the other day there are some devious people and software out there.

    From personal experince Phill kids like all kids like to put alsorts of screensavers and desktops on pcs and play online games. Even one email or im, clicking on a website for a few seconds if unlucky can leave you in danger.

    So keep them eyes peeled and your av and os updated
    Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops


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    Quote Originally Posted by somebody View Post
    Hopefully your right and never have any issues like the ones mentioned. But as Joe posted the other day there are some devious people and software out there.

    From personal experince Phill kids like all kids like to put alsorts of screensavers and desktops on pcs and play online games. Even one email or im, clicking on a website for a few seconds if unlucky can leave you in danger.

    So keep them eyes peeled and your av and os updated
    Thanks for the alert, Andy. To be forewarned is to be forearmed. Best to follow your helpful advice and be on my guard!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Little View Post
    Thanks for the alert, Andy. To be forewarned is to be forearmed. Best to follow your helpful advice and be on my guard!
    Each computer has an IP number ( such as ( IP 435.234.765.09 ) they are normally "provided" by the ISP.

    Most web sites doing forum and downloads use the ISP to identify the origination of the user computer.

    A lot of pirate software and even donwloaded films or photo images can drop a trojan on any computer - which will allow an hacker to have hidden control of you computer. Scam emails tend to use this hiding away method. Hackers use it to avoid being caught.

    So even if somebody did hack into a machine or an unsecure network allowed anybody to use your IP to to anything illegal. Its the owner they come after and HE/SHE would to prove either they were not in the property or that their computer had been compromised.

    These days internet and computer technology is more advanced and hiding away is getting less of an option.... although there are some applications available that can and do hide you IP !!!!


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    If you wish to download and break the law then use a secure proxy site such as those in Hide The IP, the premium service supplies Elite proxies, untraceable.
    Keith - Administrator


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    So where would the law stand if you left your PC on and used YOU as a DECOY server. i.e. someone uploaded a trojan, uploaded stuff and downloaded stuff to many other people. Do they come around to your house?
    It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of gum.


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    newsgroups for me love em!


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    Quote Originally Posted by lestaxi1 View Post
    newsgroups for me love em!
    ISP ? Cost? Bandwidth?
    C'mon, don't be shy..............


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    Quote Originally Posted by lestaxi1 View Post
    isp virgin 20mb,newsbin newsgroup,newsleech to find torrents share cost with another bout £15 month so £7.50 each
    Thanks :-)


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    A lot of software from the smaller companies that sell in the EU actually are in breach of EU/UK law with regard refunds, but your chances of getting the money back is low if you've bought software and it's crap.

    People pass the Ebooks I sell around for free, some folk hack my software, that's part of business, always has been, and always will be. As Joe points out, everyone does it at some point with something.
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