the general feeling is that windows 7 is a winner,supercharged vista with all the bad bits gone.take my word this will be the main o/s for years now.just look around forums businesses are taking it seriously,If you have tried it then you will see how stable it is.
Still trying to sell your copiesOriginally Posted by lestaxi1
Im pretty sure soon it will be the last OS you will need to Buy unless you want the premimun version of your prefered OS.
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
[QUOTE=somebody;183007]Still trying to sell your copies
i already got one person wanting a copy for £60, higher,higher shouts the crowdwatching how much they go for on ebay.
just checked up to £57 on ebay with a day to go
[QUOTE=lestaxi1;183008]I hope the Microsoft Police dont catch youStill trying to sell your copies
i already got one person wanting a copy for £60, higher,higher shouts the crowd
just checked up to £57 on ebay with a day to go
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
[QUOTE=somebody;183010]nothing they can do,legally bought copies i can sell for whatever i wish.
I hope the Microsoft Police dont catch you
[QUOTE=lestaxi1;183011]i remember where i use to work many years ago, we bought office and windows from the usa to sell in the uk, we got raided by Microsoft and cops for breaking some license agreement..
nothing they can do,legally bought copies i can sell for whatever i wish.
anyway what can win 7 do that xp can't ? what's your killer app :rolleyes
[QUOTE=joebloggs;183016]Its the liscense that you never truely own normally, but you own the box well thats the way software people look at it after losing out on reselling unused physcial items.
i remember where i use to work many years ago, we bought office and windows from the usa to sell in the uk, we got raided by Microsoft and cops for breaking some license agreement..
anyway what can win 7 do that xp can't ? what's your killer app :rolleyes
If you do open and tick the EULA many say you dont own the software, look at the apple Iphone cant remeber the wording but you technically dont own the software on it and Apple can do as they please with it.
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
[QUOTE=joebloggs;183016]buying from us to sell in uk is completly different,thats like buying duty free.
i remember where i use to work many years ago, we bought office and windows from the usa to sell in the uk, we got raided by Microsoft and cops for breaking some license agreement..
anyway what can win 7 do that xp can't ? what's your killer app :rolleyes
thats a bit like saying whats the diffrernce between a morris minor and a porsche! both are cars are they not?it's not simply down to a killer app it's various things,try googling this if you not sure of the difference, many intersting articles.at the end of the day we move on xp has been brill for years i loved it but now there is something better and we all move on.
http://windows7news.com/
[QUOTE=lestaxi1;183011]But steve ballmer wont be your friend anymore after all your free advertising
nothing they can do,legally bought copies i can sell for whatever i wish.
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
Vista is stable
All W7 is is Vista with a few front end bits changed, they haven't rewritten the core engine.
One problem many users will not be aware of is two things:
You can't upgrade from XP as you would think, you have to as good as install a fresh W7 and reinstall all your software.
Most of the programs you may use in all versions of windows are not now installed to conform with worldwide monopoly rulings, so you have to download them from MS, but as the EU version has no IE installed!!!
I don't remember Apple being forced to take out software from its OS!
Keith - Administrator
You get the daft menu selection of browser ballot in the EU version i understand.Vista is stable
All W7 is is Vista with a few front end bits changed, they haven't rewritten the core engine.
One problem many users will not be aware of is two things:
You can't upgrade from XP as you would think, you have to as good as install a fresh W7 and reinstall all your software.
Most of the programs you may use in all versions of windows are not now installed to conform with worldwide monopoly rulings, so you have to download them from MS, but as the EU version has no IE installed!!!
I don't remember Apple being forced to take out software from its OS!
There is third party software which is supose to let you transfer over your apps but who knows
true all this monoply business which oprea brought about so i guess others in different fields could complain about apple but it is tiny compared to ms
but apple n google soon bump into the eu if fines can be levied
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
Windows 7 E has been dropped and as SB says it's a ballot screen now and IE 8 will be included in the install but can be completely disabled if you choose another browser.Vista is stable
All W7 is is Vista with a few front end bits changed, they haven't rewritten the core engine.
One problem many users will not be aware of is two things:
You can't upgrade from XP as you would think, you have to as good as install a fresh W7 and reinstall all your software.
Most of the programs you may use in all versions of windows are not now installed to conform with worldwide monopoly rulings, so you have to download them from MS, but as the EU version has no IE installed!!!
I don't remember Apple being forced to take out software from its OS!
The lack of a proper upgrade is going to be a disaster, people were upset at UAC on Vista, what's it going to be like when they press a button that says upgrade which then proceeds to wipe their PChow many people will have backups of all their personal files, photos, etc.
We are supposed to have an RTM already and as Job Honeyball at PC Pro pointed out, now no one knows what will actually be in the box!
I just hope they don't ruin a great OS by a clumsy installation procedure that fails to make it clear to people what is actually going to happen to their PC.
Jim
The lack of a proper upgrade is going to be a disaster, people were upset at UAC on Vista, what's it going to be like when they press a button that says upgrade which then proceeds to wipe their PC
pc world are offering people who can't back up their own files or instal a o/s a service to do exactly that.windows 7 is now coming with ie8 as default and a choice of other browsers-you select which 1 you want (that sounds difficult)lol
a fresh install is always the best way, many of the public will have bits of crap on their pc.most people i know can make simple backups of their photos and docs to cd or flash disk.
if they cannot do that then they should get someone to show them as in the event of hd failure (it happened to me recently) your gonna loose em.
formatting a pc is a piece of p.... installing your apps takes a while but once its done its done.
most people know a friendly pc guy who will help them out
i do it all the time especially for xp users with their virus ridden pcs and bsod.
something not happened once on w7
Lots of people will see the word "Upgrade" and will have clicked proceed without even knowing that this is not the same as upgrades of old.The lack of a proper upgrade is going to be a disaster, people were upset at UAC on Vista, what's it going to be like when they press a button that says upgrade which then proceeds to wipe their PC
pc world are offering people who can't back up their own files or instal a o/s a service to do exactly that.windows 7 is now coming with ie8 as default and a choice of other browsers-you select which 1 you want (that sounds difficult)lol
a fresh install is always the best way, many of the public will have bits of crap on their pc.most people i know can make simple backups of their photos and docs to cd or flash disk.
if they cannot do that then they should get someone to show them as in the event of hd failure (it happened to me recently) your gonna loose em.
formatting a pc is a piece of p.... installing your apps takes a while but once its done its done.
most people know a friendly pc guy who will help them out
i do it all the time especially for xp users with their virus ridden pcs and bsod.
something not happened once on w7
After 20 odd years I'm sick of being the friendly PC guy, I'm now the unfriendly PC guy
Jim
Lots of people will see the word "Upgrade" and will have clicked proceed without even knowing that this is not the same as upgrades of old.
After 20 odd years I'm sick of being the friendly PC guy, I'm now the unfriendly PC guy
Jim
Word its amazing how many of my Wifes friends in particular will ring or text and im supose to dash round or call them up and sort out some issue
But I have to be honest I see to many people conned by computer repair shops to stop helping
I think as always best to do a clean install you should have the orginal disks or download of the application and instead of trying to upgrade.
If more people use there My docs and had a regular backup in place for all photos, documents and any other unique files. You could simply wipe and copy over.
With regards the browser as the browser comes more and more important for many users surely many will like many others and myself have several Browsers loaded.
But still find best to run browsers and day to day stuff in a vm, when it looks scruffy or in a badway, wipe and run the orignal clean version
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
I agree clean install is best it's just that a great many people don't understand what's required for that kind of exercise.Word its amazing how many of my Wifes friends in particular will ring or text and im supose to dash round or call them up and sort out some issue
But I have to be honest I see to many people conned by computer repair shops to stop helping
I think as always best to do a clean install you should have the orginal disks or download of the application and instead of trying to upgrade.
If more people use there My docs and had a regular backup in place for all photos, documents and any other unique files. You could simply wipe and copy over.
With regards the browser as the browser comes more and more important for many users surely many will like many others and myself have several Browsers loaded.
But still find best to run browsers and day to day stuff in a vm, when it looks scruffy or in a badway, wipe and run the orignal clean version
I'm still using Chrome a lot because of the cookie bug in IE, even though it's not losing cookies quite so often now it's still losing them more often than I would like.
Good point about the vm's I'm leaning that way myself, I'm running VMware Server on my 64 bit laptop and the performance is amazing, I've got a 2008 Server running in a VM that feels like it's on the raw metal.
Jim
dash roundim supose to dash round or call them up and sort out some issue
misses is on her way Andy, so be warned stay clear of Euston road on weds and Thursday
told her not to come back if she does badly
tightLots of people will see the word "Upgrade" and will have clicked proceed without even knowing that this is not the same as upgrades of old.
After 20 odd years I'm sick of being the friendly PC guy, I'm now the unfriendly PC guy
Jim
Trust me he's sensible, i see Jims point of view.tight
If you help out a friend as a favour they seem to think they can have unlimited support, you have to save files which have never been backed up and looked after which in a professional capacity you would say most likely unless they offered you huge amounts of wonga tough you didn't follow any basic pc housekeeping procedures. NO back up, updating files, using a file wall and/or NAT server, didn't use AV and AS if you did never updated and ran or used one not suited to the job in hand
Like Jim says the service somepeople expect as a favour they forget how much time it takes. Yet a lot of the time they would have never had the problem in the first place if they had engaged Brain
Its why I sorted out the PC's in phill I was fed up of the time and engery all because some stupid wallpaper or game was downloaded by her bro or lill cousins and it affected the Wife communicating with her family back there that I made sure it was made possible to reload a Ghost image if it all went pete tong. Plus they could do it not me
Oh lord why did you make so many clothes and shoe shops
tight
Jim
Seriously Les, to stay at the front of the technology game at my age is a time consuming process.tight
Although I am no longer an independent consultant I still have to keep up to date which basically means I have to teach myself every new programming technology from scratch in my own time, at the moment that's WPF and Silverlight and as I am a controls developer I'm not looking at just the surface layer of how to use this stuff.
When I was working for myself I would do 8 hours on site then often another 3 or 4 hours working on personal projects each night often these were basically self education projects, when someone then comes along with a knacked PC with lost data that's going to take at least 4 hours to recover my patience starts to wear a bit thin.
When I was working for myself Saturday and Sunday were also working days and even I would get sick of the sight of a PC sometimes
I even get depressed when I have to install my own machines now
Jim
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