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    Another news for taking british passport/citizenship

    Plans For Immigration Points System Unveiled

    Immigrants who want to take on British citizenship will have to earn their passports as part of plans for a new points-based system.


    Under the scheme migrants will be able to gain points towards their nationality application through their skills, jobs and qualifications, but bad behaviour will cost them points.

    Until now, obtaining British nationality has been virtually automatic after five years working in the country, as long as applicants have paid taxes, learned to speak English and obeyed the law.

    But the tough new rules will mean that, in future, it could be as long as 10 years before foreigners become eligible.

    Speaking ahead of the launch of a consultation on the new citizenship proposals, Home Secretary Alan Johnson said they would "require people to earn points for, among other things, their skills, their job and their qualifications".

    "Bad behaviour will be penalised, and only those with enough points will earn the right to a British passport," he said.

    "No longer will there be an automatic link between temporary work and becoming a permanent UK citizen."

    Would-be migrants from outside the EU are already subject to a points-based system, introduced last year, which permits access to the UK only if they have skills needed by the British economy.

    A Home Office spokesman said: "The points-based system has already proved to be a powerful tool for controlling migration for the benefit of British people and the economy.

    "We have already announced our intention to consult on applying these principles to the path to citizenship.

    "New laws require migrants to earn citizenship by playing by the rules, speaking English and contributing to the community.

    We intend to consult on how we can further strengthen these reforms and provide flexibility for the Government to respond to the changing economic needs of the country."

    But Conservative immigration spokesman Damian Green said: "This is pure spin. There never has been an automatic right to British citizenship.

    "It is simply that this Government that has let an unprecedented number of people obtain citizenship, issuing someone with a British passport every five minutes.

    "This is an act of desperation by a Government that knows it has let immigration run out of control for more than a decade."


    source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090803/...m-45dbed5.html


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    Is it same rules for wives then?
    to loved and beloved is the greatest joy on earth...


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
    Plans For Immigration Points System Unveiled

    Immigrants who want to take on British citizenship will have to earn their passports as part of plans for a new points-based system.


    Under the scheme migrants will be able to gain points towards their nationality application through their skills, jobs and qualifications, but bad behaviour will cost them points.

    Until now, obtaining British nationality has been virtually automatic after five years working in the country, as long as applicants have paid taxes, learned to speak English and obeyed the law.

    But the tough new rules will mean that, in future, it could be as long as 10 years before foreigners become eligible.

    Speaking ahead of the launch of a consultation on the new citizenship proposals, Home Secretary Alan Johnson said they would "require people to earn points for, among other things, their skills, their job and their qualifications".

    "Bad behaviour will be penalised, and only those with enough points will earn the right to a British passport," he said.

    "No longer will there be an automatic link between temporary work and becoming a permanent UK citizen."

    Would-be migrants from outside the EU are already subject to a points-based system, introduced last year, which permits access to the UK only if they have skills needed by the British economy.

    A Home Office spokesman said: "The points-based system has already proved to be a powerful tool for controlling migration for the benefit of British people and the economy.

    "We have already announced our intention to consult on applying these principles to the path to citizenship.

    "New laws require migrants to earn citizenship by playing by the rules, speaking English and contributing to the community.

    We intend to consult on how we can further strengthen these reforms and provide flexibility for the Government to respond to the changing economic needs of the country."

    But Conservative immigration spokesman Damian Green said: "This is pure spin. There never has been an automatic right to British citizenship.

    "It is simply that this Government that has let an unprecedented number of people obtain citizenship, issuing someone with a British passport every five minutes.

    "This is an act of desperation by a Government that knows it has let immigration run out of control for more than a decade."


    source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090803/...m-45dbed5.html
    thanks for sharing te Pen..



    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Daddy View Post
    Is it same rules for wives then?
    I am also wondering about that sis, not sure if it applies to everyone who wanted to become british citizens but no definite dates yet when it will be implemented?


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    rules might be the same, but time period you have to wait will probably be smaller for spouses of brits


    and dom it does effect your misses if she wants to be a british citizen and a british passport, as citizenship is dealt with by British immigration law not EU law.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    rules might be the same, but time period you have to wait will probably be smaller for spouses of brits
    thanks for that MOD JOE that was a good relief..


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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post
    thanks for that MOD JOE that was a good relief..
    looks to me kimmi you might need to do a bit of voluntary work to get citizenship sooner, but talk of being 'of good character' has always been part of the citizenship process anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    looks to me kimmi you might need to do a bit of voluntary work to get citizenship sooner, but talk of being 'of good character' has always been part of the citizenship process anyway.
    I am already doing a couple of hours voluntary job Mod, hopefully everything will be okey..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Daddy View Post
    Is it same rules for wives then?
    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post
    I am also wondering about that sis, not sure if it applies to everyone who wanted to become british citizens but no definite dates yet when it will be implemented?
    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post
    I am already doing a couple of hours voluntary job Mod, hopefully everything will be okey..
    I think we are all covered by this for applying British passport.
    I hope my english is acceptable lol.
    Kimmi, how many voluntary hours needed?
    I'm planning to do mine whilst recovering from surgery.
    There's offer here to teach children about using computer and help their homework thru research. They will give allowance too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pennybarry View Post
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    Kimmi, how many voluntary hours needed?
    I'm planning to do mine whilst recovering from surgery.
    There's offer here to teach children about using computer and help their homework thru research. They will give allowance too.
    am not sure Te how many hours is required for doing voluntary jobs, I just do couple of hours if I have extra time from my work..

    GOODLUCK again with ur operation..GET well soOn..


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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post
    am not sure Te how many hours is required for doing voluntary jobs, I just do couple of hours if I have extra time from my work..

    GOODLUCK again with ur operation..GET well soOn..
    Ahhh OK thanks again Kimmi.

    See you!


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    hmmm already working and still need to have a volunter jobs to become a british citizen? i thought volunteering are just for peeps thats not working and if ur already working u dont need to do volunter jobs


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggers0608 View Post


    hmmm already working and still need to have a volunter jobs to become a british citizen? i thought volunteering are just for peeps thats not working and if ur already working u dont need to do volunter jobs
    The process isn't clear yet and won't be in place for a couple of years. But the suggestions are that if you want to apply for citizenship as the spouse of a british citizen after 3 years you will have to do voluntary work even if you are working. Otherwise you will have to wait 5 years. The reason for the voluntary work is to show you are integrating into british society.


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    im sorry another load of crap by this government they will change there mind next week another u turn you can bet your life it will not help us and i mean us who want to bring our wifes to the uk they cant even get that organised at the moment .



    WAITING 4 MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH YOUR WIFE AND THE MONEY THEY CHARGE if i had my way i would the lot of them


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    Its a knee-jerk reaction,public appeasing,vote catcher,government knows illegal immigration and asylum seeking is an issue with Mr J.Public,they always include immigration issues when an election looms on the horizon,but something tells me Gordy will be packing his belongings in Tesco boxes ready for the delivery van trundling up the cobbles of Downing Street next year



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Its a knee-jerk reaction,public appeasing,vote catcher
    vote catcher for me would be a vote on pulling out of the European union and giving the unelected gov in Brussels a , time the britsh gov stopped persecuting the brit who's married to someone outside of the union.

    britsh jobs for british and european workers to me the problem is not people outside Europe coming here, its europeans coming here, just like the vikings, raping and pillaging the uk




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    They have actually came here and raped and pillaged,look at the stats on both crimes in the UK involving european immigrants,you do a crime(something serious) and it should be instant deportation after you served your sentence without leave to appeal.Look what Castro did to Miami when he opened his prisons and sent the inmates to Florida.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    They have actually came here and raped and pillaged,look at the stats on both crimes in the UK involving european immigrants,you do a crime(something serious) and it should be instant deportation after you served your sentence without leave to appeal.Look what Castro did to Miami when he opened his prisons and sent the inmates to Florida.
    if an illegal immigrant marries a non britsh european in the uk, good chance is they will not have to go back to their country to apply for a settlement visa. if a brit marries a non european (even here legally) they almost certainly will have to go back and apply for a settlement visa





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    Is there any indication so far as to whether those already part way on the journey, e.g fiance or spouse visas, FLR, ILR, will be affected? Or whether this is just for those arriving in the future?


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    Quote Originally Posted by xebec View Post
    Is there any indication so far as to whether those already part way on the journey, e.g fiance or spouse visas, FLR, ILR, will be affected? Or whether this is just for those arriving in the future?
    Basically if you are elligible to apply for ILR prior to July 2011 you can apply under the existing rules.


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