How much ££ for the family

[pennybarry]

I understand a bit of asian culture,I lived there for years,I know asian families help each other,but I also know why young women sacrifice themselves for the good of the family

Thanks for the understanding Tawi If you love somebody, you are willing to sacrife but you need to balance every situation if you are already married.

My granddad is the same way. He's 83 and still won't stop working. My uncles tried to make him retire and rest a few years ago, but after a month of being idle, he insisted on going back to what he was used to. Umm, regarding the feed, what do you use the animals for? Do you sell them at the palengke? Maybe you can try other options. My aunt's husband feeds his pigs stale bread and snack cakes. Of course, those are just to add to the expensive feed (you're right about the cost).

No problem about the pig's feed, as pig eats anything. Rotten fruits, left over food etc

Chicken feeds cost a fortune. A sack of that feed cost more than 1000+ pesos. And chicken don't stop pecking

We don't sell at market, we have lots of suki from the village. We only sell Kangkong in the market as we have loads of it.

[Tawi2]

Dontpushme,I speak a little of the language,visayan and tagalog,just enough to understand and your right,they do backbite kids who marry old western guys,but the same women who gossip wouldnt stop their daughters marrying westerners I am sure,as their tsismis is jealousy related I liked your hypothesis that pinays with money would avoid me,yet those without would marry me Totally wrong My sons mum's family have a beach resort,Korean language school(used to be their hotel),and a four story house with swimming pool on the roof,I was there earlier this year when a politician landed his helicopter on the beach to visit the uncle who has a lot of influence.My current lady friend?Lets just say I always liked brains coupled with beauty,she has a very good job with World Bank and also does consultancy projects,worked with GMA before Gloria became president,assumptions are often wrong,its nothing whatsoever to do with money,its a little concept called love,as for gaping age gap I am the right side of 50 and wouldnt countenance a woman more than 5 years younger I am attracted to women with a surfeit of brains to compensate my deficit,but pinas does have a dependency culture,thats documented fact and having been there 50-60 times and lived in different social circumstances and moved in circles at opposing ends of the social spectrum I have seen it for myself,the country after all survives on remittances,and not everyone of those is wired to pinas from an OFW,a decent amount is from ladies married to westerners.I am interested in which geographic area you hint at which decries mixed marriages as I have many friends married to women from top to bottom of pinas.

[dontpushme]

LOL, maybe avoid isn't the right word, but they wouldn't sniff you out either. i do have a lot of friends (in different places) that have asked me to find them foreigners to date, but the word breeding comes to mind with these people. i like them as far as friendship goes, but there are just some things i wouldn't do. i know it sounds bad considering i don't have as much money as i'm sure the other ladies here have, but i'm proud of the fact that i earn it myself, piddling as it may be.

you're right on one thing, and that's that a lot of the gossip is jealousy related, but there are also people that just feel that it's cheap to keep getting money from someone you're not related to. i may have had no money growing up, but i have to admit that my dad grew up in one of the most expensive places in the philippines, and he's the one that taught me what was unacceptable in that kind of company. it's okay to marry a foreigner, but to marry the guy because you fell in love with the way he always sent you money and rescued you from problems that would have made you stronger if you'd overcome them yourself is not.

i don't want to name places as i'm sure hometown loyalty would ensure i'd be offending people (more) if i did that. i honestly wouldn't care where your lady is from (i'm assuming Tawi-tawi, LOL). in fact, i'd say more power to her family and you guys. but i can't change the opinions i have or the opinions of the people in the area i will ultimately go home to. of course, that place is also full of foreigners, but their wives are moneyed too. i guess you could say i'm poor but am expected to have the same opinions and values as the people on the other side of the tracks. you could say i'm wrong and it's right to look for foreigners on dating websites and give sob stories left and right in the hopes that the foreigner would protect you and save you and be your knight in shining armour, but i could also say the opposite is true. where's the character growth in begging for remittances (in the beat-around-the-bush way that pinoys and pinays grow up doing)? i'm not jealous of anyone (if anyone ever offered me money, i'd get pretty mad), but i do feel bad that, like butterflies helped out of their cocoons, there are women who decide they don't want to spread their wings and fly on their own.

the philippines does survive on remittances, i'd admit that. but remittances don't teach people to take care of their resources to ensure a better future for their kids. (incidentally, i'm a big nerd hellbent on gaining as much knowledge as i can so i can someday fix our rainforests and oceans, and maybe have my dream orphanage and hopefully a scholarship foundation).

Every time I post on this forum, I half expect to see -1000 rep power. What's wrong with you people? Where are my red blobs?

[Tawi2]

Assumption is the mother of all f***-ups,i never dated a lady from Tawi-tawi,but I did spend a lot of time down there They might have sniffed me out actually,its always something decent like armani,and my sons mother and mothers son did indeed have breeding You dont choose your potential life partner like that,though thats how I would buy horse-flesh if I was looking for stock,humans cant help falling for each other,its called animal attraction Name the places............

[Tawi2]

As for the pinoy remittance culture,well,its not getting better,its actually getting worse as the remittances increase year upon year,the country has a population growth of 3% I truthfully predict times will get much worse before they get better(if ever),but one thing,not all of us have met dirt poor pinays We dont all sail in the same boat But money to me means absolutely nothing,I have been very affluent and extremely skint,I never judge people by what they do or dont have,thats poor breeding in itself.

[dontpushme]

Name the places............

LOL! I can't! I've lived in some of them and I'm almost sure some people here know my mom's family (she grew up in one of those places). My maternal grandparents saw Matt on webcam when we were still just friends that had met on Facebook, and my grandma's first reaction was "ask him if he's related to anyone older for you". That attitude got me a lotta whuppings when I was younger and insisted i didn't want to get married, let alone to some old, rich and decrepit foreigner (my grandma insisted white skin would improve my race... when did i become some dog to breed?).

As for the pinoy remittance culture,well,its not getting better,its actually getting worse as the remittances increase year upon year,the country has a population growth of 3% I truthfully predict times will get much worse before they get better(if ever),but one thing,not all of us have met dirt poor pinays We dont all sail in the same boat But money to me means absolutely nothing,I have been very affluent and extremely skint,I never judge people by what they do or dont have,thats poor breeding in itself.

I don't judge people on whether they do or don't have money. It isn't money I'm concerned about, but character. You say the remittance culture is getting worse. That doesn't mean that Filipinos are surviving on their own. It just means my country is getting increasingly dependent on foreigners. Sure, we're smart, beautiful, talented and hard-working people, but the moment someone foreign (therefore "rich") comes along, it's back to the old attitude of "oh, he can afford it" and what does that teach the next generation?

Like I said, it's not the pinay-foreigner thing that bothers me. It's the kind of character that the attitude of "my man can afford to send Dodong, Boy, Third, Fourth, Girlie, Bok, and Jojo to school, and pay for our new roof and Nanay's bills" teaches. All these kids work had while they're in school and may have ambitions of their own, but when they're adults, they think it's easier to just find a foreigner to date and marry who will support them and their extended family "just like Tita's second husband does". Of course, their degrees and skills make them more desirable to the foreigners, but what happens to the skills and talents when these brides become just housewives? I commend the ladies who still work even after marrying foreigners.

I'm sorry, but sending so much money really isn't helping in the long run. If you really want to help, teach my people to protect our seas for tourism instead of using cyanide to get tropical fish from our reefs for fish tanks in the Western world, slowly killing the corals and sea grass that the fish depend on. Teach my people to preserve the rainforests and have tourists come in to see how high our trees can grow and how beautiful the rainforests are. Teach my people that mining may bring money in but it destroys the forests above the ground, endangering whole communities during annual typhoons. Set up scholarship foundations to teach children that education can be free, but you have to work hard. Teach them that education can take them anywhere in the world to build a better future for their families. That's still all foreign money coming in to the Philippines, but it helps instead of crippling the country.

I'm not here to try and hurt people's feelings, but like I said before, I'm trying to help you see better.

And Tawi, I hope for the sake of my people that your prediction doesn't come true.

LOL, you're making me all emotional and now I've got a lump in my throat.

[Tawi2]

They arent my predictions,they are the predictions of economists,pinas population will double in 30 years,it struggles to sustain its current population and couldnt actually do so without the cash flooding in from abroad,globalisation is changing the face of the world,when I lived in Hong Kong I remember talk of the Tiger economies,pinas was never one of them due to graft corruption etc,thats one of the reasons I am not one of those guys who say "I will retire in the Philippines" ask your average westerner his impressions of Pinas,what does he think or what can he tell you about the place and its people,most know very little but what they do say is eye opening,its mainly corruption,beaches,and internet brides,I asked a few guys the other week and thats their perceptions.not the peoples fault,just the leaders

[jimeve]

I'm sorry, but sending so much money really isn't helping in the long run. If you really want to help, teach my people to protect our seas for tourism instead of using cyanide to get tropical fish from our reefs for fish tanks in the Western world, slowly killing the corals and see grass that the fish depend on. Teach my people to preserve the rainforests and have tourists c


LOL, you're making me all emotional and now I've got a lump in my throat.

The Philippines in big trouble of loosing its main source of protein, if it doesn't change very very quickly. they need a massive project sustainable aquaculture , and a marine conservation. stop the destruction of coral reefs. they are killing them self's and Innocent people.