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    Newly married in philippines, now frightened if I can join my hubby in uk

    We got married in Leyte on Aug 4th 2009, Our marriage papers were sent by courier (LBC) to NSO in Manila to register our marriage. My husbands now returned to UK and Im now going through the process of joining him. He is worried because in feb this year he was made redundant and is still not working and his worries are I might not get a visa to join him. Im so frightened of loosing him because he is the best thing that has ever happened to me. We both say we will never loose eachother and he phones everyday to say he loves me ect. I am so frightened that I might not be able to join him as he is unemployed but looking everyday for work. We have a big house in the Uk but after reading this site Im so worried and so is he. We started chatting in feb 09, he came to meet me in July09, we married in August 09 and I miss him so much. I guess this is mentioned on here alot but can anyone advise me. please any advice or help would be so appreciated


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    Unfortunately this is one of the things they are quite strict on when it comes to granting visas. They want to be sure that he will be able to support you without having to claim anything extra benefits from the UK government. The one thing in your favour is that it's a spouse visa which, unlike a fiancee visa, means that you would be legally entitled to work in the UK from day you arrive here, although jobs are quite scarce here at the moment.

    Does your husband have any unemployment insurance or does he have enough savings that might show that he could still support you for at least 2 years even if he remained unemployed?

    It is still possible to get a visa whilst unemployed, because other unemployed people have been successful in the past, but it just makes it a lot more uncertain.

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    Don't loose your hope dear, give him time and space to look for a job, and sooner or later you can apply for a spouse visa.


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    Yeah,just give it a little time Vies,employment is location dependant in some areas of the UK,especially at this time of economic downturn,I have a friend who has just left the north and came south at the weekend,left his family up there and travelled down here to work,just give him a little time and lots of support,it will come good in the end



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    Quote Originally Posted by IainBusby View Post
    Unfortunately this is one of the things they are quite strict on when it comes to granting visas. They want to be sure that he will be able to support you without having to claim anything extra benefits from the UK government. The one thing in your favour is that it's a spouse visa which, unlike a fiancee visa, means that you would be legally entitled to work in the UK from day you arrive here, although jobs are quite scarce here at the moment.

    Does your husband have any unemployment insurance or does he have enough savings that might show that he could still support you for at least 2 years even if he remained unemployed?

    It is still possible to get a visa whilst unemployed, because other unemployed people have been successful in the past, but it just makes it a lot more uncertain.

    Iain.


    I would advise you to encourage your husband to get any job and to prove he is working again before you apply for your visa.
    You want to have peace of mind whilst you are waiting for the result of your visa application


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    Yeah,just give it a little time Vies,employment is location dependant in some areas of the UK,especially at this time of economic downturn,I have a friend who has just left the north and came south at the weekend,left his family up there and travelled down here to work,just give him a little time and lots of support,it will come good in the end
    That is right Tawi2.
    ViesVies, there are also so many people who have come to the Midlands from all over the UK to get work.
    Ask him to look at home and also around the UK and try to find work so that you both have the best chance of a successful outcome to your visa application.


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    My husband is looking for work all the time, he has said he will take any job and travel anywhere if it brings me and my son to the UK with him. Im so glad I found this site as peoples replies are so heart warming. Salamat (Thankyou)


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    Quote Originally Posted by ViesVies View Post
    We got married in Leyte on Aug 4th 2009, Our marriage papers were sent by courier (LBC) to NSO in Manila to register our marriage. My husbands now returned to UK and Im now going through the process of joining him. He is worried because in feb this year he was made redundant and is still not working and his worries are I might not get a visa to join him. Im so frightened of loosing him because he is the best thing that has ever happened to me. We both say we will never loose eachother and he phones everyday to say he loves me ect. I am so frightened that I might not be able to join him as he is unemployed but looking everyday for work. We have a big house in the Uk but after reading this site Im so worried and so is he. We started chatting in feb 09, he came to meet me in July09, we married in August 09 and I miss him so much. I guess this is mentioned on here alot but can anyone advise me. please any advice or help would be so appreciated
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    I would advise you to encourage your husband to get any job and to prove he is working again before you apply for your visa.
    You want to have peace of mind whilst you are waiting for the result of your visa application
    Its nice to have so many helpful people and I thankyou all so much


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    right first of all YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE HIM .......YOU ARE MARRIED


    your relationship is very young not even 1 year yet and you are married

    he has to be able to support you in the uk ok he has as you say a big house that does not realy mean a lot


    my advice do alot of research on this forum start getting your paperwork together wait a while he realy heeds a job


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    Quote Originally Posted by trader dave View Post
    right first of all YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE HIM .......YOU ARE MARRIED


    your relationship is very young not even 1 year yet and you are married

    he has to be able to support you in the uk ok he has as you say a big house that does not realy mean a lot


    my advice do alot of research on this forum start getting your paperwork together wait a while he realy heeds a job
    All we know is we really love each other, he rings and txt's everyday and has assured me that in time when he has found work we will be together but im just so frightened. Your right, Im married to him and I know he will never leave me. Thanks so much for your reply on here, Im so glad I found this site


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    Quote Originally Posted by ViesVies View Post
    My husband is looking for work all the time, he has said he will take any job and travel anywhere if it brings me and my son to the UK with him. Im so glad I found this site as peoples replies are so heart warming. Salamat (Thankyou)
    he needs a job, because he will have to pay for 2 settlement visas and 2 flights for you and your son , which must be near £2000

    he should try and avoid agency or contract work, he needs a permanent job, especially if he's sponsoring 2 of you

    how old is your son, is his father named on his birth cert? - you need to show you have sole responsibility for your son.

    you will get your visa, you just need time and money and a job


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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    he needs a job, because he will have to pay for 2 settlement visas and 2 flights for you and your son , which must be near £2000

    he should try and avoid agency or contract work, he needs a permanent job, especially if he's sponsoring 2 of you

    how old is your son, is his father named on his birth cert? - you need to show you have sole responsibility for your son.

    you will get your visa, you just need time and money and a job
    Not sure you are correct on the type of work he needs to find, Joe.

    I have been doing only agency work for years now
    Finding a salaried job is almost impossible these days, I think a person should go down the agency route first until he/she can be financially safe and then look for a salary job if there is one available.

    I think the ECO will look at the 6 months' bank statements and see lots of regular payments in.
    I have always felt that having a bank balance in the black (not in the red) over the time of the 6 months showing regular payments in is so important.

    Of course, if he can get a salaried job that would be great, but from what I have seen here in the West Midlands, there are hundreds of people applying for every job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    Not sure you are correct on the type of work he needs to find, Joe.

    I have been doing only agency work for years now
    agency work has the problem of not being permanent employment, his wife said he is looking for any job, so i would have thought if he goes to an employment agency he could get, low paid unskilled work, and if they have no work for you, then you dont get paid, while i think the agency work you do is not like that ,mr shark


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    He could always take the self-employed route if he has siutable skills,the last time I was self employed I had several tens of thousands of pounds savings built up very quickly,I am sure that would have had weight when applying for her visa,depends what his background is



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    Quote Originally Posted by joebloggs View Post
    agency work has the problem of not being permanent employment, his wife said he is looking for any job, so i would have thought if he goes to an employment agency he could get, low paid unskilled work, and if they have no work for you, then you dont get paid, while i think the agency work you do is not like that ,mr shark
    I understand what you're saying Joe, but agency work is where a lot of people have to start if they're unemployed and there are only a few salaried jobs available.
    Agency work is where people can build up a reputation for (1) turning up on time and (2) doing a good job by working hard.

    As they build up their finances and a "good name" with the agency, they can gradually see what other agencies are paying and the ball keeps on rolling.
    Agencies offer all sorts of work, from unskilled warehouse pickers to skilled jobs like office managers and HGV drivers.
    Agencies also often specialise in particular fields, some are industrial, clerical, overseas work - the list goes on.

    It is like everything in life, get some money coming in and keep your eyes open for other opportunities.

    I started with one agency and knuckled under for a long time taking driving jobs that were often back-breaking. I gradually saved and paid £1000's for my Class 1 (artic) licence and now I work through many agencies.
    The fundamentals always apply though - work hard and you will succeed if you get out of bed at horrible times with the bigger picture (and perhaps one of your beautiful Filipina lady) in your mind.

    Sometimes you don't get paid when the agency has no work but you just have to keep on networking with as many people as possible to find out about any other work, often in other cities.

    It all started for me with a phone call to an agency in Heywood, not far from you. I later moved to the Midlands when I realised the pay rates per hour were superior.

    It is not easy but the benefits are there - for me my Asawa is here, but I worked my itlogs off to pay for everything (and still do).

    I know people who have applied for so many salaried jobs and never even got replies.

    I would advise anyone to get their walking shoes on and get out to the agencies. It worked for me and hundreds of thousands of others too


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    Quote Originally Posted by ViesVies View Post
    All we know is we really love each other, he rings and txt's everyday and has assured me that in time when he has found work we will be together but im just so frightened. Your right, Im married to him and I know he will never leave me. Thanks so much for your reply on here, Im so glad I found this site

    stop worrying you have done the hard/easy part got married next comes the expensive part MRS T was like you worry worry worry but she has her faith i let her carry on with that


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post

    It all started for me with a phone call to an agency in Heywood, not far from you.
    my mom use to live in heywood

    i know of a couple of people who were refused visa's, and one of the reasons was they worked for an agency, i dont think there is anything in the rules saying you can't. i don't think its a good enough reason to refuse you on its own, maybe as a back up reason if some jobs worth wants to be a

    but your rigiht work is work, and that means money


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    Since the scrapping of the primary purpose rule:(refusing on the grounds of marrying for economic reasons),I thought there are no legal grounds to refuse a spouse visa......Human rights and all that.


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    Welcome to the forum. Don't worry too much about the visa, I'm sure you'll get it soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilang View Post
    Since the scrapping of the primary purpose rule:(refusing on the grounds of marrying for economic reasons),I thought there are no legal grounds to refuse a spouse visa......Human rights and all that.
    i am sure you are right not quite sure what the human rights act states i am sure someone will post it soon

    but i am sure you have the right to marry who you like and to live together as man and wife family life


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    Quote Originally Posted by ilang View Post
    Since the scrapping of the primary purpose rule:(refusing on the grounds of marrying for economic reasons),I thought there are no legal grounds to refuse a spouse visa......Human rights and all that.
    Quote Originally Posted by trader dave View Post
    i am sure you are right not quite sure what the human rights act states i am sure someone will post it soon

    but i am sure you have the right to marry who you like and to live together as man and wife family life
    human rights, the embassy can say what's stopping you going to live in the phils ?

    many reasons a spouse visa can be refused, but your entitled to full rights to an appeal if you are.


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    dont worry!

    things well be fine ,wag kang magalala makakarating ka rin dito, as long yung asawa mo i may konteng savings things well be fine, basta follow mo lang yung rules ng british embassy dyan sa atin, yung asawa ko wala ngang trabaho pero nakarating ako dito! asawa ka na eh kaya magiging ok ang lahat ok! apply na para makapunta ka na dito! taga san pala ang asawa mo?

    bheng


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidArt View Post
    things well be fine ,wag kang magalala makakarating ka rin dito, as long yung asawa mo i may konteng savings things well be fine, basta follow mo lang yung rules ng british embassy dyan sa atin, yung asawa ko wala ngang trabaho pero nakarating ako dito! asawa ka na eh kaya magiging ok ang lahat ok! apply na para makapunta ka na dito! taga san pala ang asawa mo?

    bheng

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    My Husband rings everyday, still no work and has said that he needs to have full time permanant employment. He is a printer/finisher but he will settle for anything just to bring us together. He is more worried I think than me as there seems to be so many people after a single job, he has mentioned about selling house and living here in the Phillipines with me but then he needs to find work, which will be even harder than in UK. We just pray every night that we will be together. Please can I say a big big thank you to everyone who has posted on here in reply to my worries for it honestly makes me feel warm inside knowing there are caring people in the world. I will keep returning to this forum as it is such a comfort..thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViesVies View Post
    My Husband rings everyday, still no work and has said that he needs to have full time permanant employment. He is a printer/finisher but he will settle for anything just to bring us together. He is more worried I think than me as there seems to be so many people after a single job, he has mentioned about selling house and living here in the Phillipines with me but then he needs to find work, which will be even harder than in UK. We just pray every night that we will be together. Please can I say a big big thank you to everyone who has posted on here in reply to my worries for it honestly makes me feel warm inside knowing there are caring people in the world. I will keep returning to this forum as it is such a comfort..thanks again
    salamat
    Be strong for your family Dont worry too much. Its tough and its not easy to be away but you will cross that bridge together.

    Hope and pray he would get a job
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViesVies View Post
    We got married in Leyte on Aug 4th 2009, Our marriage papers were sent by courier (LBC) to NSO in Manila to register our marriage. My husbands now returned to UK and Im now going through the process of joining him. He is worried because in feb this year he was made redundant and is still not working and his worries are I might not get a visa to join him. Im so frightened of loosing him because he is the best thing that has ever happened to me. We both say we will never loose eachother and he phones everyday to say he loves me ect. I am so frightened that I might not be able to join him as he is unemployed but looking everyday for work. We have a big house in the Uk but after reading this site Im so worried and so is he. We started chatting in feb 09, he came to meet me in July09, we married in August 09 and I miss him so much. I guess this is mentioned on here alot but can anyone advise me. please any advice or help would be so appreciated
    Just hang in there, you will not lose your husband... I would suggest that he does find work before you start the visa application process. You will NOT
    be successful in you spouse visa application if your man is unemployed here in the UK.

    He should be supporting you monthly, and you should have a very clear paper trail showing money transfers etc... etc..

    bystander


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    Quote Originally Posted by ViesVies View Post
    My Husband rings everyday, still no work and has said that he needs to have full time permanant employment. He is a printer/finisher but he will settle for anything just to bring us together. He is more worried I think than me as there seems to be so many people after a single job, he has mentioned about selling house and living here in the Phillipines with me but then he needs to find work, which will be even harder than in UK. We just pray every night that we will be together. Please can I say a big big thank you to everyone who has posted on here in reply to my worries for it honestly makes me feel warm inside knowing there are caring people in the world. I will keep returning to this forum as it is such a comfort..thanks again
    salamat
    STOP..!!! YOUR MAN SELLING UP AND MOVING TO THE PHILS...!!!

    THIS IS A RECIPE FOR PURE DISASTER..!! THE PHILIPPINES IS AWASH WITH VERY WELL QUALIFIED PRINTERS ETC..!!! YOUR FAMILIES LONG TERM FUTURE WILL BE HERE IN THE UK. WORK TOGETHER SAVE SOME MONEY AND BUY YOUR DREAM HOUSE IN THE PHILS FOR YOUR RETIREMENT. BOUNCE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN ON YOUR KNEE AS THE SUN GOES DOWN OVER THE SOUTH CHINA SEA..

    BUT NO MORE OF THIS BS ABOUT YOUR HUBBY SELLING UP IN THE UK..

    bystander..


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    Welcome to what you have already discovered is a very friendly and supportive forum. I am currently on the verge of receiving my State Pension. Prior to reaching this stage in my life, I hadn't worked full-time for quite a number of years ... as a result of being prematurely retired on health grounds. On attaining the age of 60, I became eligible for what is known as Guaranteed Pension Credit in order to supplement my income which consisted ONLY of a modest occupational pension amounting to less than £6,000 per annum.

    Why am I telling you all this? Good question!

    Having been widowed at the early age of 47, I struggled on alone, aware that my life was spiralling slowly downhill. Fortunately, each my two children happened to be self-supporting adults by this time, and hence I was financially able to relinquish what had long been an extremely stressful job.

    The "crunch" came last year when, after engaging in an online LDR with a Filipina schoolteacher for the preceding 12 months, I visited her home province of Davao del Norte for the first time in September 2008. We spent three glorious weeks together ... during which time we were rarely apart, and she too, filed an application for early retirement. Two months later, her request duly granted, I returned to the Phils ... where we wed on December 8.

    Eventually, on 20 January, we lodged my new wife's papers ... accompanied by my letter of sponsorship ... with the British Embassy in Manila. The letter clearly outlined the reasons for my financial situation - in terms of comparatively meagre Savings - down to the last penny. During the tense waiting period, my mind was constantly filled with anxious "WHAT IF?" thoughts ... e.g. What IF ... in the worst-case scenario ... my income - particularly in the light of my being in receipt of public funds, i.e. pension credit, proved inadequate. Evidently, my worries turned out to be unfounded, as her visa was, in due course, APPROVED!

    Basically, what I'm saying is THIS: Technically, I was UNEMPLOYED ... being under the age of 65 at the point we submitted my wife's application. So meanwhile, I suggest your husband start the ball rolling by presenting as STRONG a case as is possible in the circumstances ... always bearing in mind (i) that from a 'Human Rights' angle, the Embassy MUST demonstrate SUBSTANTIAL grounds for denying a wife the chance of joining her husband in his country of birth and (ii) Spouse Visas are SELDOM refused.

    So, folks ... HAVE FAITH ... and Good Luck to you BOTH in your efforts.


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    A quick update.
    My husband is still out of work and I am really feeling the pain of us not being together and I honestly miss him so much. He rings nearly every day but I know deep down in his voice he is getting depressed about not able to find work yet. Is it really that bad in the UK?
    I know we both have to be strong for each other but it is so hard when you love and miss your husband so much. He assures me he will find work and is now trying every job agency on line in the UK. I know its only been a month since we last see each other but it honestly seems a life time especially to me. We both pray every day that a job will turn up for him and then after a few months we can finally be together and then my dream would of come true.

    Thank you every one who replies on here, it is so nice to see caring people, thank you again


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    Quote Originally Posted by ViesVies View Post
    A quick update.
    My husband is still out of work and I am really feeling the pain of us not being together and I honestly miss him so much. He rings nearly every day but I know deep down in his voice he is getting depressed about not able to find work yet. Is it really that bad in the UK?
    I know we both have to be strong for each other but it is so hard when you love and miss your husband so much. He assures me he will find work and is now trying every job agency on line in the UK. I know its only been a month since we last see each other but it honestly seems a life time especially to me. We both pray every day that a job will turn up for him and then after a few months we can finally be together and then my dream would of come true.

    Thank you every one who replies on here, it is so nice to see caring people, thank you again
    Yes it is that bad here in the UK and most of the people in the know think that it will probably be the middle of 2010 before things start to improve.
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