Originally Posted by joebloggs
my misses brother in law has worked on ships for many years, (misses thinks he might be a 1st mate or an officer of some sort) he gets paid well, but he's away 6 months' of the year,so he's missed his kids growing up and it has caused some problems with his relationship with his wife. so that's the sacrifice he has paid to bring home a good wage, but time is one thing money cannot buy you.
labour party want more students going to uni, which i think i read somewhere they have achieved, especially more working class kids.
money is not everything, you might get paid well but hate your job, or get paidbut like what you do. i suppose you have to find a balance, but a degree with get your foot in the door, experience with probably get you the job.
i think some people who **** off degrees haven't been to uni, so maybe some jelly belly there
good you got where you did, but were all not the same
Degrees like vocational courses have there uses. The current regime goverment/cvill service whoever think we need lots of people who have studied a degree any degree.
We need Technicans, we need Craftspeople we need people with practical skills.
Joe seriously Like Ricky I know plenty of people of various ages who in the nineties and noughties went to Uni wasted some time there and got no degree or a poor degree or switched to a "easier Degree" or qualfication. Also plenty who did post gradute. For the amount of investment 5-10-15 years later the career path they have taken does not justify the time, money and effort.
It maybe their choice/right but from the country's pespective its not clever sending huge amounts of people to Uni to do courses which they for various reasons are going to not achieve the best for them, industry private or public, or the country.
I was told by one young man who was working with our company on work experience who is the first to admit is not very academic but very practical minded and wants some sort of Engineer/craftsman role was told by some careers advisor he should consider University as he can achieve so much more.
Firstly a well paid Engineer/craftsman will earn far more than many a paper shuffler. Secondly the guy needs more hands on experience not learn how to write reports which being honest is just not his bag.
When he looked for practical courses the choice is very limited to the huge amount of academic courses.
I think Ricky like me knows you need people with good acadmeic skills you need scientists, doctors, even lawyers. But we need people with various skills surely?
Look at the academies many are teaching far more pratical/vocational skills. Why because the people who will employ or possibly hire tradespeople or crafts people know there are huge shortages. People with a so so Degree or one in a subject not required are ten a penny..
Look at the current crisis in many areas apart from the west midlands which manufacturing has been battered due to the lack of credit etc. In many comuter towns the ones who suppy the major towns and cities with office workers are the ones really being hit. Some commuter belt towns have levels of employment never seen. But I still see adverts for skilled crafts people.
Like in the private sector once the public sector have to reduce costs, local authorities and cvill service departments are surely going to reduce admin staff (more likely to be degree holders) but front line staff (less likely to be degree holders) who are needed to reach targets or bring in income etc. Will be less effected..
