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    Quote Originally Posted by steadyfornow View Post
    my boyfriend wants to stay here for couple of months and would love to try working here..i hope he will love it here..can you give him some suggestions of what he needs to do before coming over..
    Lock all of his savings up in a 20 year bond.


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    Tell him to save enough in the UK to enable him to pay his own salary whilst here..
    Tell him to save a bit more if he wants to put in some overtime...
    Now thats what I call being self employed!!


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    I think I'm in a slightly different / better position than most of the people on this forum. My job (work offshore on a dive boat) means I spend 6 month away from home. This means my home for the remaining 6 months can be anywhere i choose. We're going to emigrate to the phils next years and I'm really looking forward to it.

    When I talk to folk about living in the uk the list of negatives grows longer and longer. With the money I earn I can have a very respectable life style out there. I'm fortunate that my company provide private health care and will fly my to anywhere from anywhere to join my ship.

    As long as you can work you can have a fantastic lifestyle in the phils.

    Main drawbacks with living in the phils : Proper bread, beer, cheese, fillet steak, cream, decent roast dinner, pork sausages, back bacon. Oh yes family and friends
    It's been emontional


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    Quote Originally Posted by subseastu View Post
    I think I'm in a slightly different / better position than most of the people on this forum. My job (work offshore on a dive boat) means I spend 6 month away from home. This means my home for the remaining 6 months can be anywhere i choose. We're going to emigrate to the phils next years and I'm really looking forward to it.

    When I talk to folk about living in the uk the list of negatives grows longer and longer. With the money I earn I can have a very respectable life style out there. I'm fortunate that my company provide private health care and will fly my to anywhere from anywhere to join my ship.

    As long as you can work you can have a fantastic lifestyle in the phils.

    Main drawbacks with living in the phils : Proper bread, beer, cheese, fillet steak, cream, decent roast dinner, pork sausages, back bacon. Oh yes family and friends

    You can get most of the stuff on your list these days(steak etc usually from Australia Fillet steak about 1,200PHP per kilo.)..
    Roast dinners taste even better now that my wood burning oven is up n running..
    And my pizza`s are the bees kneez!


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    i wud live anywhere my asawa and anak are....because i wud know then...i am happy
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    I think it's a completely individual taste, what might be heaven for one person may be hell for another.
    We're renting an apartment in Manila now, and have spent quite a bit of time living in the Philippines over the last few years.
    The ex-pat retirees living in the Philippines seem very happy, well looked after, money goes further, warm weather, can afford to be pampered etc. Everywhere there seems to be a small ex-pat community, grouping together. The only groups to avoid are the 'permenant sex tourist' communities, but they are normally easy to spot.

    For myself, I personally don't enjoy being in the Philippines for more then a few weeks at a time. I know this upsets Marvie and I do feel guilty when I tell her this. But often I feel a bit restricted there, simple hassles such as having to haggle over prices and regularly being stopped by the traffic police for no other reason then i'm white. Of all the places in Asia, I would really only live in Singapore or Hong Kong, as they are fast paced 24 hour modern cities. Thats my personal opinion, but I'm 24 and like to be busy. The only rewarding thing is that we get involved in local youth charities to keep ourselves busy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    You can get most of the stuff on your list these days(steak etc usually from Australia Fillet steak about 1,200PHP per kilo.)..
    Roast dinners taste even better now that my wood burning oven is up n running..
    And my pizza`s are the bees kneez!
    Thats good to know. Not a bad price for fillet steak either. where did you get your wood burning stove from Fred? Are you a budding Jamie Oliver? Quite like the idea of one of those, standing around outside watching it cook stuff with a cold san mig!
    It's been emontional


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    would love to live there in cebu


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    Quote Originally Posted by ukgangster View Post
    It's a bit of a no win situation really - it may be cheaper to live in the Philippines, especially in the provinces, but you do need a fair bit of capital to tide you over, buy a house, a business to generate income, etc. Then theres health considerations - its free in the UK, but not in Philippines, and what happens if it all goes wrong, you gotta come back and start all over again.

    Having lived abroad in Malta and Spain for a period of 2 - 3 years and being a typical Sagittarius, I'd have no problem adjusting. Add to that Elsa and I already have a house and a small jeepney in Tacloban, it should be painless if we decide to go.
    Hi Rob, have you done any research on health insurance if you ever decide to go there? That seems like the biggest problem to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by subseastu View Post
    Thats good to know. Not a bad price for fillet steak either. where did you get your wood burning stove from Fred? Are you a budding Jamie Oliver? Quite like the idea of one of those, standing around outside watching it cook stuff with a cold san mig!
    Built it with the help of 2 Filipino masons and some red clay brick..
    The oven is outside but the front of it is built into the kitchen wall (if you know what I mean)
    we've done beef casseroles,shepherds pie,roast pork/chicken etc and the pizza s take 59 seconds at 900F!!


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    Actually . .. Thailand! Even Aida seems to agree having visited for a holiday last year. I am happy in the UK, but I love Thailand and think it is one of the easiest places to live.

    Highest concern about the Philippines is the issue of personal security and safety.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IanB View Post
    Actually . .. Thailand! Even Aida seems to agree having visited for a holiday last year. I am happy in the UK, but I love Thailand and think it is one of the easiest places to live.

    Highest concern about the Philippines is the issue of personal security and safety.
    It might be your opinion that Thailand is safer than the Philippines, but I think you'll have difficulty backing that up with any real facts. When looking at any crime figures you may need to bear in mind that the Philippines has a much larger population than Thailand (about 50% larger).


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    It might be your opinion that Thailand is safer than the Philippines, but I think you'll have difficulty backing that up with any real facts. When looking at any crime figures you may need to bear in mind that the Philippines has a much larger population than Thailand (about 50% larger).
    He never said its safer Darren,he said its "Easier" and I will have to agree with him on that,Thailand has its act together for Tourists and Western retirees,its just "Easier" in most things,but its different strokes for different folks,we all have differing preferences.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawi2 View Post
    He never said its safer Darren,he said its "Easier" and I will have to agree with him on that,Thailand has its act together for Tourists and Western retirees,its just "Easier" in most things,but its different strokes for different folks,we all have differing preferences.
    He did say "Highest concern about the Philippines is the issue of personal security and safety. ". My point was if that his highest concern about the Philippines he ought to have the same concern about Thailand as it is no safer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    It might be your opinion that Thailand is safer than the Philippines, but I think you'll have difficulty backing that up with any real facts. When looking at any crime figures you may need to bear in mind that the Philippines has a much larger population than Thailand (about 50% larger).
    The larger population would only be relevant if one could be sure that the reported crime figures are correctly given and also are NOT stated as a percentage of the population. .

    Many countries 'doctor' the figures to give an impression which reflects better on the government.

    When I was a police officer in UK I was aware that the Home Office figures were distorted. They still are.

    In Spain I know too that the figures are not correct. The official ones show less crime reported and 'word of mouth' by mainly British living here claim it is much higher than it is.

    I have worked as a volunteer translator in Spain for 15 years thus know that very few crimes reported.

    I know that in all countries many crimes go unreported, however, bearing in mind that most tourists have holiday insurance, which requires them to make a police report in order to be able to claim, one would expect almost all such victims to report, thus the reported crime figure by them are more than likely to be correct: Giving the lie to those who talk of 'The Costa Del Crime' who are talking absolute nonsense!


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    The larger population would only be relevant if one could be sure that the reported crime figures are correctly given and that are stated as a percentage of the population. .
    Think you are saying that wrong - the larger population would only be relevant if the figures are stated as an absolute figure (eg number of murders in total). Obviously makes no difference if it is stated as a percentage of the population. Which is why I said "you may need to bear in mind...."


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    Quote Originally Posted by darren-b View Post
    He did say "Highest concern about the Philippines is the issue of personal security and safety. ". My point was if that his highest concern about the Philippines he ought to have the same concern about Thailand as it is no safer.
    Sorry I missed the missing word when I checked my post. I have corrected in now, to read:-

    "The larger population would only be relevant if one could be sure that the reported crime figures are correctly given and also, they are NOT stated as a percentage of the population."


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    For me its England and its an easy choice too. I know one day i`ll live in Phil but i`m not ready yet.
    And taking recent events into account the weather here isn`t too bad and even though it isn`t warm like Phil the upside is that also it won`t kill you unlike typhoons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
    As an Englishman, I think I should retire in spain somewhere and grow old and grumpy complaining about "that foreign muck they call food"
    I lived in Spain for quite a while.

    Spanish food is excellent.

    It's the English "restaurants" that sell awful food


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    Quote Originally Posted by aposhark View Post
    I lived in Spain for quite a while.

    Spanish food is excellent.

    It's the English "restaurants" that sell awful food
    Having lived in Spain just over 20 years, I thought Grumpy's remark was a joke. (that is was meant as a joke).

    Some restaurants are better than others, but a good class one is a good restaurant. A bar run by a person with no experience of running such a business is usually a disaster.

    We have an English bar nearby where my wife and her friends have eaten a few days. It's English owned and run. She likes the food and lunch, with a soft drink is 4 euros (£3.60). A half of beer or a good 'machine coffee' is 80 cents about 71 pence. And those prices in sterling are only that high because of the lack of confidence the world has in the UK economy, Thanks Gordon!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
    As an Englishman, I think I should retire in spain somewhere and grow old and grumpy complaining about "that foreign muck they call food"
    i was under the impression when someone from the uk moves to spain that they like everything to be english including there food?

    that is one country i will never move too,to many english there.

    i cant understand why anyone would move to spain to live in a neighbourhood full of english people?
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    i cant understand why anyone would move to spain to live in a neighbourhood full of english people?
    It's gotta be the weather.


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    Quote Originally Posted by triple5 View Post
    It's gotta be the weather.
    the weather maybe better but the company isnt
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    We currently have a place in Palawan and love it there, Small European expat community in Puerto Princessa, (no noisy brash Americans) and still very underdeveloped. Provided Governor Reyes and Mayor Hagedorn keep saying no to the hordes of Japanese, South Korean and even Chinese investors who want to build all manner of things from Casinos to golf complexes (with properties) then we may retire there. Alternatively we have an investment property in Kota Kinabalu and have looked at Koh Samui as well
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    Spain.

    Where one chooses to live is a personal decision and obviously affected by one's personal circumstances, financial ability, family, likes and dislikes.

    Having spent 5 months in USA, two 4 month visits to Penang, and 4 months in The Philippines, I think I am able to judge whether I would like to live in one of them.

    Relying on the UK press, or a spending a couple of weeks holiday in any country, cannot give one enough experience to make a sound judgement.

    Having owned a property in Spain for more than 6 years and having spent a number of month-long holidays in Spain before I decided to move here, I felt it was a reasonable decision to ‘give it a try.’

    As the years have passed, I am more and more certain I made the right choice for me. I mix with a wide variety of people of varying nationalities, although my general lifestyle and diet are more British than Spanish. I speak reasonably good Spanish and, as a personal choice, I seldom use non-Spanish owned establishments.

    The ‘stereotype' British ex-pat living on the Costas, unfortunately often based on (so called typical) Brits who live in UK and come here for holidays, as depicted in the UK media, is a long way from reality, rather like the overseas media impressions of the UK, which shows it is a crime ridden society (example, the lady who killed her daughter and then committed suicide or the 14 year old who died following an injection re cancer prevention) which are exaggerated and written to appeal to their readership.

    As former career detective in UK, and for 15 years having been a volunteer translator here, assisting non-Spanish speakers, who need assistance from the police, I am aware first hand that the level of crime and the seriousness of offences here are very far below that of UK.

    We live in Fuengirola (approximately 100,000 inhabitants, 20% come from other countries, mainly European from England, Ireland, Scotland, Finland and Sweden). My wife can walk around on her own, even quite late in the evening, without feeling fearful. I don't think she would feel the same in many other countries.

    John

    PS. Please don't all rush come and to live here: It would make it as overcrowded as UK and may encourage locals to resent foreigners which at present they do not.


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    you sold it to us john
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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