Princes here:) new in this site.have questions also:)

[charmingprinces]

I have a long story to tell evryone ........

I m planning to submit a spousal visa application on the 3rd week of october at the british embasssy manila,
but i have a numerous concerns about it..coz I was refused twice and here the story goes......
My british husband and I have known each other since 2005.We have met each other and evidences to support this are enough- between 2005-2009.I just made the biggest mistake when I did not declare him on my first application for tourist visa because we broke up in the last quarter of 2007 the reason why i did not mention about him on my first application... I know its all my fault...

We became ok agen in Janury 2008 when he visited me agen in the phil and from then we got engaged....

-applied tourist visa in september 2007- refused due to financial circumstance/they noticed a recent large amount deposit in my account before my application.
-applied fiance visa in August 2008- refused due to failure to disclose information about my fiance in my first application.ECO said I shoud have mentioned about my bf in my proposed visit to uk. He therefore conclude that my relationship with fiance was not genuine as we claimed....

we decided to lodge my appeal but while the appeal is in progress we got married in the phil last March 2009.So I decided to cancel the appeal... and plan to submit a fresh application using spouse visa .......

And now I feel very nervous about it....I dont know wat to say on the application. Given the fact that Were now married...Do you think this would still matter to them that I lied b4.....But If Itell them about the shortwhile break up... Ahhhh I really dont know wat to say.... please.. help... please....
Im so grateful I found this forum.... atleast I will be enlightened on my case...



God bless you all......

[scottishbride]

I have a long story to tell evryone ........

I m planning to submit a spousal visa application on the 3rd week of october at the british embasssy manila,
but i have a numerous concerns about it..coz I was refused twice and here the story goes......
My british husband and I have known each other since 2005.We have met each other and evidences to support this are enough- between 2005-2009.I just made the biggest mistake when I did not declare him on my first application for tourist visa because we broke up in the last quarter of 2007 the reason why i did not mention about him on my first application... I know its all my fault...

We became ok agen in Janury 2008 when he visited me agen in the phil and from then we got engaged....

-applied tourist visa in september 2007- refused due to financial circumstance/they noticed a recent large amount deposit in my account before my application.
-applied fiance visa in August 2008- refused due to failure to disclose information about my fiance in my first application.ECO said I shoud have mentioned about my bf in my proposed visit to uk. He therefore conclude that my relationship with fiance was not genuine as we claimed....

we decided to lodge my appeal but while the appeal is in progress we got married in the phil last March 2009.So I decided to cancel the appeal... and plan to submit a fresh application using spouse visa .......

And now I feel very nervous about it....I dont know wat to say on the application. Given the fact that Were now married...Do you think this would still matter to them that I lied b4.....But If Itell them about the shortwhile break up... Ahhhh I really dont know wat to say.... please.. help... please....
Im so grateful I found this forum.... atleast I will be enlightened on my case...



God bless you all......

Welcome to the forum!! The key to successful spouse visa is to satisfy the ECO that your relationship is genuine,healthy savings accounts and lastly accomodation. You can click the searched function.. As the requirements for spouse visa has been posted several times. Goodluck!

[darren-b]

Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about your previous refusals. Not mentioning relationships with people in the UK when applying for tourist visas is something that has been discussed on here many times and your experience shows why it is important to mention them.

Now that you are married and assuming you meet all the requirements (financial, accommodation, etc) it is highly unlikely that you will be refused, though the ECO may call you in for an interview.

In terms of the time you spit up, as it was almost two years and you have since married it shouldn't matter. If you didn't mention it before don't mention it now if you don't have to as it was only for a short period (couple of months?) anyway.

[charmingprinces]

Thank you Scottish bride & Darren-b for early response.... Now I can finally breathe
I have started completing the required documents... if in case I will need ur advise agen in the coming days.. hope you'd still be there....

Yap, we split up for 3 months only... and Thank God We have developed a more loving relationship after what happened....

Thank you Guys.....

[charmingprinces]

Thank you Scottish bride & Darren- b for your early response. Now I can finally breathe I feel more confident to submit my application sooner....

Yap! We split up for only 3 months in 2007 But I thank God because we have a more loving relationship after what happened...

Hope to see more advise from you if incase I wil need it in the next coming days....

ThanX..God blesss

[Queenbee]

Thank you Scottish bride & Darren-b for early response.... Now I can finally breathe
I have started completing the required documents... if in case I will need ur advise agen in the coming days.. hope you'd still be there....

Yap, we split up for 3 months only... and Thank God We have developed a more loving relationship after what happened....

Thank you Guys.....

Hey gurl!!!welcome to the forum!!!

anyayzzz i submitted ma tourist visa sponsored by ma bf in the UK just last wednesday last week...Im now scared cz u mentioned about u were denied coz of financial circumstance...Dam my boyfriend also added more money in my account as ell a month before i lodge my application....So im also gonna get denied here???I even presented loads of evidences that e are together,he's still has an ongoing divorce and been separated 2 years already from his ex wife..Me,i also have an ongoing annulment procedures as well and i did emphasize that......

I asked some people here and some told me that it didnt matter how much you have in yah account if you're sponsored by a UK resident there,you just have to present yah sponsor's bank statements,wage slips and stuff..

me now getting scared...

[Ana_may365]

welcome aboard and all the best to both of u

[joebloggs]

never transfer large amounts of money to your bank account, not without writing in your letter of support the reason why you've done this and it better be a good reason , it looks very suspicious. if you need to do it, do it ASAP and wait til you have 6 months bank statements without showing the statement with the money going in your account, so you need to plan your evidence many months before you apply for your visa.

you said you lied to them, did they mention a ban in any of their refusal letters? there is no automatic mandatory ban for spouses, but spouses can be still be refused if the applicant has contrived to 'significantly frustrate' UK immigration law. but you will probably not be refused for this.

so make sure they have no reason to refuse for app because of the evidence you submit, good bank statements - non overdrawn, showing he has savings to support you 'without recourse to public funds' a place to live without it being over crowded and as much evidence showing your in a genuine relationship, and you shouldn't have a problem.. and never tell a lie, or you'll your visa goodbye

good luck

[pennybarry]

Just be yourself and don't lie. They are seems psychologists
They know if you lie, most of the time.

Goodluck!

[whiteraven]

hi and welcome to the forum, as long as you follow the advice and dont lie about anything you shouldnt have a problem

[Sophie]

Hi princess, first of all, welcome to the forum
Sorry to hear about your visa refusal twice in a row.... i can understand how you must be nervous applying for the third time....
But just make sure that this time, you come up with all the necessary proof (from 2005 to present) to support the genuineness of your relationship....
And you being married now may also help....
And another thing, make sure you provide enough evidence that your hubby can support you financially when you get here.....
Those are the 2 major things you make sure to cover properly to satisfy and convince the embassy people.
Best of luck on your application and we hope you get a positive result this time.....

[Tiggers0608]

Good luck on your application, let them know the truth don't give them reason to deny ur application again

Ask your husband to explain on the letter of support about your accommodation, his savings, and etc and that your not going to use help of public funds for u while ur there ....

[charmingprinces]

hi,

Im gonna share with you the ECO statement that really bothers me...
ECO mentioned that I am unreliable and that anything i say to applying to enter the Uk cannot be relied upon as being true.....Does this mean,any application I make in the future will be automatically refused? ...Ouch.... I really feel sad about it. It's really breaking my heart........

[scottishbride]

Thank you Scottish bride & Darren- b for your early response. Now I can finally breathe I feel more confident to submit my application sooner....

Yap! We split up for only 3 months in 2007 But I thank God because we have a more loving relationship after what happened...

Hope to see more advise from you if incase I wil need it in the next coming days....

ThanX..God blesss

You're welcome, this is a friendly forum and I am sure you will get advices from other members. Goodluck on your application!

[jaishann]

I have a long story to tell evryone ........

I m planning to submit a spousal visa application on the 3rd week of october at the british embasssy manila,
but i have a numerous concerns about it..coz I was refused twice and here the story goes......
My british husband and I have known each other since 2005.We have met each other and evidences to support this are enough- between 2005-2009.I just made the biggest mistake when I did not declare him on my first application for tourist visa because we broke up in the last quarter of 2007 the reason why i did not mention about him on my first application... I know its all my fault...

We became ok agen in Janury 2008 when he visited me agen in the phil and from then we got engaged....

-applied tourist visa in september 2007- refused due to financial circumstance/they noticed a recent large amount deposit in my account before my application.
-applied fiance visa in August 2008- refused due to failure to disclose information about my fiance in my first application.ECO said I shoud have mentioned about my bf in my proposed visit to uk. He therefore conclude that my relationship with fiance was not genuine as we claimed....

we decided to lodge my appeal but while the appeal is in progress we got married in the phil last March 2009.So I decided to cancel the appeal... and plan to submit a fresh application using spouse visa .......

And now I feel very nervous about it....I dont know wat to say on the application. Given the fact that Were now married...Do you think this would still matter to them that I lied b4.....But If Itell them about the shortwhile break up... Ahhhh I really dont know wat to say.... please.. help... please....
Im so grateful I found this forum.... atleast I will be enlightened on my case...



God bless you all......

hello and welcome. Hope all goes well and be credible.

[pennybarry]

hi,

Im gonna share with you the ECO statement that really bothers me...
ECO mentioned that I am unreliable and that anything i say to applying to enter the Uk cannot be relied upon as being true.....Does this mean,any application I make in the future will be automatically refused? ...Ouch.... I really feel sad about it. It's really breaking my heart........

Sounds like, they will check your application carefully. This is your turn to be true. Double check all you have written in your application. Be true, be humble and cheer up! Just bear in mind, you're a wife and you have the right to join with your hubby as long as you can provide all supporting docs.

If they still refuse your application, your husband has the right to make an appeal for your application.

Cheer UP! Look more on the brighter side!

[charmingprinces]

GUYs....

I would like to share with you the statement made by the ECO...and it realy bothers me a lot.
ECO mentioned these:


"I am satisfied you have used deception on this application and this seriously damages your credibility as an applicant. It falls to be refused under 320(7a) and 290(iii) of the immigration rules.

This would lead me to conclude you are unreliable and that anything you say in regard to applying to enter the Uk cannot be relied upon as being true."

Does this mean that any application I will make in the future will be automatically refused....?

Hope you guyz can cooment on this...

Thanx a lot..

[jaishann]

GUYs....

I would like to share with you the statement made by the ECO...and it realy bothers me a lot.
ECO mentioned these:


"I am satisfied you have used deception on this application and this seriously damages your credibility as an applicant. It falls to be refused under 320(7a) and 290(iii) of the immigration rules.

This would lead me to conclude you are unreliable and that anything you say in regard to applying to enter the Uk cannot be relied upon as being true."

Does this mean that any application I will make in the future will be automatically refused....?

Hope you guyz can cooment on this...

Thanx a lot..

to be honest it doesnt sound very good to me, remember when people say first impression are lasting impression? but dont lose hope you might get away with it as you are now married and having the evidences that support your application that may satify them to come up to a Yes. Unless you submit you wont know so just relax, and lets hope for the best.

although the statement is quite alarming :

This would lead me to conclude you are unreliable and that anything you say in regard to applying to enter the Uk cannot be relied upon as being true."

..so I am not quite sure if this statement relates to your future application/s but then again this is entirely my own opinion. Everyone here are very helpful and I know they are all ready to share their views that will help you.

hope all goes well.

[pennybarry]

[QUOTE=charmingprinces;181040]"I am satisfied you have used deception on this applicationQUOTE]

This sounds very alarming. But how about a letter to them. Write to them and tell them what's you really need to tell. Sometimes, it's too hard to explain it personally especially if you're bothered, nervous, and confused. There are some spaces at the back of your application, you can explain to them whole heartedly. Tell them the story. This time no more lies.

I wish you goodluck!

[Sophie]

GUYs....

I would like to share with you the statement made by the ECO...and it realy bothers me a lot.
ECO mentioned these:


"I am satisfied you have used deception on this application and this seriously damages your credibility as an applicant. It falls to be refused under 320(7a) and 290(iii) of the immigration rules.

This would lead me to conclude you are unreliable and that anything you say in regard to applying to enter the Uk cannot be relied upon as being true."

Does this mean that any application I will make in the future will be automatically refused....?

Hope you guyz can cooment on this...

Thanx a lot..

I understand this statement from the embassy is someting to be concerned about princess, but then again, its not the end for you,
i'm sure you will still have the chance to redo things all over again and make sure this time, you redeem yourself and do everything correctly, accurately and truthfully.....

The burden of proof lies solely on your hands now....you have to prove them wrong and make sure to back up all your claims with airtight proofs
you've been together from 2005 to 2009, that's more than enough time to come up with ample evidence of the genuineness of your relationship
such as photos, chatlogs, telephone bills or statements showing details of your conversation, text messages to each other,
letter or cards as well as receipt of money he sent you for the past 4 years.....and you being married now would probably help.....
and also make sure to provide an adequate proof of your husbands capacity to support you financially and his ability to give you proper accomodation when you get here...

It's very important that you establish the legitimacy and authenticity of everything you declare in your application flawlessly.....
Be very careful and be very prepared this time and make sure to cover everything, this may be your last shot, so there should be no room for error....
Also, be ready for the embassy people to be tougher on your application this time, given the track record they established against you from the past,
so expect your papers to undergo a very tight scrutiny......which your papers and application should be prepared and be equipped for......
Best of luck on the application princess

[jaishann]

I understand this statement from the embassy is someting to be concerned about princess, but then again, its not the end for you,
i'm sure you will still have the chance to redo things all over again and make sure this time, you redeem yourself and do everything correctly, accurately and truthfully.....

The burden of proof lies solely on your hands now....you have to prove them wrong and make sure to back up all your claims with airtight proofs
you've been together from 2005 to 2009, that's more than enough time to come up with ample evidence of the genuineness of your relationship
such as photos, chatlogs, telephone bills or statements showing details of your conversation, text messages to each other,
letter or cards as well as receipt of money he sent you for the past 4 years.....and you being married now would probably help.....
and also make sure to provide an adequate proof of your husbands capacity to support you financially and his ability to give you proper accomodation when you get here...

It's very important that you establish the legitimacy and authenticity of everything you declare in your application flawlessly.....
Be very careful and be very prepared this time and make sure to cover everything, this may be your last shot, so there should be no room for error....
Also, be ready for the embassy people to be tougher on your application this time, given the track record they established against you from the past,
so expect your papers to undergo a very tight scrutiny......which your papers and application should be prepared and be equipped for......
Best of luck on the application princess

[somebody]

Sophie has more than summed it up, you have to remeber the ECO has to look for any suscpious items they may be genuine mistakes or oversights.

This time as Sophie and others right make sure you have all the evidence possible, bank accounts look ok and your hubbies accounts look ok. Plus you have a place in the UK suitable for you both. Look though your application and check and double check.

If any doubts just ask the good people on here after using the search button

[scottishbride]

GUYs....I would like to share with you the statement made by the ECO...and it realy bothers me a lot.ECO mentioned* these:"I am satisfied you have used deception on this application* and this seriously damages your credibility as an applicant. It falls to be refused under 320(7a) and 290(iii) of the immigration rules.This would lead me to conclude you are unreliable and* that anything you say in regard to applying to enter the Uk cannot be relied upon as being* true."Does this mean that any application I will make in the future will be automatically refused....?Hope you guyz can cooment on this...Thanx a lot..

Don't lose hope! My cousin had the same situation like you what's worst was she lied to the ECO! ( She's been refused three times and on her 4th application it was a success) So be very honest with your application. I guess am lucky that I have found this forum. I got adviced from other members before I filed my application and whoala!!! Got my spouse visa in 22 days!

[charmingprinces]

Thank you guyz!!!for all the words of encouragement..........It's such a relief to hear all those things from all of you....

I am really blessed to have found this forum.........

Finally I found the best people to share my story with...

You guyz know exactly how I feel.

God bless you all.....

[lizaphil]

I have a long story to tell evryone ........

I m planning to submit a spousal visa application on the 3rd week of october at the british embasssy manila,
but i have a numerous concerns about it..coz I was refused twice and here the story goes......
My british husband and I have known each other since 2005.We have met each other and evidences to support this are enough- between 2005-2009.I just made the biggest mistake when I did not declare him on my first application for tourist visa because we broke up in the last quarter of 2007 the reason why i did not mention about him on my first application... I know its all my fault...

We became ok agen in Janury 2008 when he visited me agen in the phil and from then we got engaged....

-applied tourist visa in september 2007- refused due to financial circumstance/they noticed a recent large amount deposit in my account before my application.
-applied fiance visa in August 2008- refused due to failure to disclose information about my fiance in my first application.ECO said I shoud have mentioned about my bf in my proposed visit to uk. He therefore conclude that my relationship with fiance was not genuine as we claimed....

we decided to lodge my appeal but while the appeal is in progress we got married in the phil last March 2009.So I decided to cancel the appeal... and plan to submit a fresh application using spouse visa .......

And now I feel very nervous about it....I dont know wat to say on the application. Given the fact that Were now married...Do you think this would still matter to them that I lied b4.....But If Itell them about the shortwhile break up... Ahhhh I really dont know wat to say.... please.. help... please....
Im so grateful I found this forum.... atleast I will be enlightened on my case...



God bless you all......

just say hello and welcome to the forum

[ViesVies]

Thank you guyz!!!for all the words of encouragement..........It's such a relief to hear all those things from all of you....

I am really blessed to have found this forum.........

Finally I found the best people to share my story with...

You guyz know exactly how I feel.

God bless you all.....

Reading what you said and what I have read on here, Im sure you will be sucessful, I think I am in the same situation as you.I will not tell un true things but My husband will borrow from family member much funds to build bank account up and Im worried now that as you had big sum of money in your account it was denied.. Im so frightened now. I keep praying for both of us

[marlyn&kenny]

I have a long story to tell evryone ........

I m planning to submit a spousal visa application on the 3rd week of october at the british embasssy manila,
but i have a numerous concerns about it..coz I was refused twice and here the story goes......
My british husband and I have known each other since 2005.We have met each other and evidences to support this are enough- between 2005-2009.I just made the biggest mistake when I did not declare him on my first application for tourist visa because we broke up in the last quarter of 2007 the reason why i did not mention about him on my first application... I know its all my fault...

We became ok agen in Janury 2008 when he visited me agen in the phil and from then we got engaged....

-applied tourist visa in september 2007- refused due to financial circumstance/they noticed a recent large amount deposit in my account before my application.
-applied fiance visa in August 2008- refused due to failure to disclose information about my fiance in my first application.ECO said I shoud have mentioned about my bf in my proposed visit to uk. He therefore conclude that my relationship with fiance was not genuine as we claimed....

we decided to lodge my appeal but while the appeal is in progress we got married in the phil last March 2009.So I decided to cancel the appeal... and plan to submit a fresh application using spouse visa .......

And now I feel very nervous about it....I dont know wat to say on the application. Given the fact that Were now married...Do you think this would still matter to them that I lied b4.....But If Itell them about the shortwhile break up... Ahhhh I really dont know wat to say.... please.. help... please....
Im so grateful I found this forum.... atleast I will be enlightened on my case...



God bless you all......

Welcome to the forum!
Just pray everything will be alright, take good advices from here ok? Good luck and wish u all the best!

[isimpson01]

Hi charmingprinces
Good luck with your application. Don't lose hope and follow advice of being open and honest. That really is the best policy. My wife had a spouse visa refused 1st time but we got visa on appeal. Appeal was less than 3 weeks. Make sure you have many support letters from your husband, his work, family, friends and MP if he can get that.
Here is hoping 3rd time lucky for you..
Best wishes
Ian & Engela