Proud To Be British

[James Hubbard]

I blame the parents

Trips and I are twins Actually, twin brothers from different mothers

[James Hubbard]

I forgot to add

Fish Fingers

[Arthur Little]

wotz demz wrds meen?

Just showing off MY lack of a university education. Nice one, mate!

[triple5]

I forgot to add

Fish Fingers

For your list of dislikes? Now that's definitely an area the Philippines excels in - good fish.

[James Hubbard]

Just showing off MY lack of a university education. Nice one, mate!

I remember seeing a learned lawyer looking up the word "recourse" in his dictionary! The client thought it was some learned legal tome. He said "are you looking for a legal precedent" and the lawyer had to go back to "p" and look for "precedent"

I guess he went to the same uni as I did

[Pepe n Pilar]

Hi James, i'm sad to know University of the Philippines is nowhere to be found in the list compiled on the top 500 or 1000 Universities in the world .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers...he_Philippines

[JimOttley]

I wanted to ask all of you who are Brits and those who have lived in the UK for a long time - or just arrived and fresh ...

--What do you love about the UK, and what are you proud of about our country?

I have lived in the Philippines for a year and I have missed a lot, ... will be going back in 2.5 weeks and I will miss my asawa but I really look forward to my country.

Let me try to start the list with 4


1) Temperate Climate
2) World Class Education
3) Stiff upper lip and politeness (in general)
4) Respect for other nations and cultures . . .


ok, over to you all now.

I love Scotland, the Lochs, the Glens, the Coastlines, the Islands.

I love the Lake District.

I like the TV strangely, mostly the documentaries on Sky and the Beeb and as a Sci-fi fan Sky One is great.

I am proud of our history, at least proud of some of it, we did a lot of bad things like the rest of the colonial powers of old.

I do like our general sense of fairness, however it is I fear a dying trait, far too few see past narrow self interest these days.

I like the general lack of deadly creatures, earthquakes, volcano's i.e. our relative immunity from major natural disasters.

Our infrastructure although it could be much better.

And I am proud of our overall contribution to our understanding of all aspects of the Universe we live in (in all branches of fundamental science).

There are though lots of things I am not particularly fond of too but I'll save that for another day.


Jim

[James Hubbard]

Hi James, i'm sad to know University of the Philippines is nowhere to be found in the University listings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univers...he_Philippines

Although, the issue is funding.

Research undertaken in universities which contributes to their all over score depends largely on the funding awarded.

Therefore, the talent of the people aside, the fund-raising abilities of the universities is probably the most important thing, because they can then afford to hire the best to carry out the best research and therefore develop an international reputation.

The UK and USA are awesome at this, hence, better Universities.

[James Hubbard]

also to the list

-Darwin
-Kelvin
-Hawking
-Newton
-Goldacre

any others I failed to mention?


-Alton towers
-Blackpool
-British style kebab

Yeah, I am proud of these things

Oh yes,

-No Mozzies (mosquitoes)

[Peanutz]

Also, in MOST parts of the UK (don't flame me, i said MOST) ...


we don't need signs like my avatar, "Bawal Umihi Dito" . . . our UK British people urinate in toilets, not pee all over the street.


Also

We have a great sewerage system ... it isn't open in the streets.


Also

People in UK use the Bins in which to put their litter!

Also

The quality of the products and services we offer in UK is much higher (compared with Philippines)

Also

Most people are not lazy and have some kind of work ethic (Apart from lazy dole-hoppers)

Also

Maybe I should file this one under "rant" section, but ...

In the Philippines, many many people have 6 children with an income of 200 Pesos per day without thinking about the kids. I find this morally reprehensible, when you think that there are free pills and condoms being handed out, and free community family planning seminars, that they don't bother to go to because they just want to play basketball, drink tanduay and chikka chikka. Then many of those choose to get their children to beg off me, because I'm the rich white man, and I should supply their kids with food and I should be the one to provide for them! I have just two words for those people ... ... but the swearing rule prevents me from expressing that thought

In the UK, that doesn't really happen so much - people are educated, til they are 16 and learn about condoms and pills etc (and don't talk about the chavs, as they are a minority)!

Maybe we should look back in history first and I suggest you to do some reading...Most of the things you written above has it's roots back from early colonisation of Philippines. If you understand its past then you might understand why it become as it is now...
Where we are now and why we have certain mentality, attitude or whatever you call it is because of what we inherited from Spanish-American colonisation.
It takes time to develop a country, it takes years to civilise people.
The ancient world has been blended with mix culture for centuries, it was a melting pot of different culture where the history has been built, where civilisation started and the society that evolves is what we are living now...

Our history is only a mere period in compare to what your country has been through for centuries...

[JimOttley]

Where are the library and Museum in Philippines? I tried hard to find many library but only came across their overpriced National Book Store. Noone could afford any of the stuff in there.

Never found a library Gary but I've been in lots of Museums in Manila.

Also Corregidor the whole island is a museum

The Pacific War Memorial, I found this place very moving.




The ruins of the Mile Long Barracks




The guns of Corregidor





I agree though National Bookstore is a bit expensive

Jim

[Tish]

I love everything about British including SOAPS

Tish

[JimOttley]

Maybe we should look back in history first and I suggest you to do some reading...Most of the things you written above has it's roots back from early colonisation of Philippines. If you understand its past then you might understand why it become as it is now...
Where we are now and why we have certain mentality, attitude or whatever you call it is because of what we inherited from Spanish-American colonisation.
It takes time to develop a country, it takes years to civilise people.
The ancient world has been blended with mix culture for centuries, it was a melting pot of different culture where the history has been built, where civilisation started and the society that evolves is what we are living now...

Our history is only a mere period in compare to what your country has been through for centuries...

Very true Peanutz

It takes time, I was in tears reading the words of Jose Rizal on the walls of a memorial in The National Museum of the Philippines, I was feeling a bit fragile at the time but they were poignant words.

The country has had a hell of a history it is still growing and maturing, that so many are so kind and friendly for all they have to go through on a daily basis is a great credit to the people of the Philippines!


Jim

[James Hubbard]

Maybe we should look back in history first and I suggest you to do some reading...Most of the things you written above has it's roots back from early colonisation of Philippines. If you understand its past then you might understand why it become as it is now...
Where we are now and why we have certain mentality, attitude or whatever you call it is because of what we inherited from Spanish-American colonisation.
It takes time to develop a country, it takes years to civilise people.
The ancient world has been blended with mix culture for centuries, it was a melting pot of different culture where the history has been built, where civilisation started and the society that evolves is what we are living now...

Our history is only a mere period in compare to what your country has been through for centuries...

Hi Pea, thanks for commenting in my thread.

I have read some of Filipino history, although I don't pretend to know much about it.

Indeed, many things in what I have listed have their roots in colonisation, but the process of civilisation could easily take it's course. I mean, are you blaming the having 6 children whilst earning 200 peso and disregarding family planning clinics on - the Spaniards, or, the Americans? Let's get real. There's no excuse for ignorance in this modern world.

It's easy to blame things on others, but much harder to shoulder responsibility for those things ourselves.

I would love to start another thread - Pilipinas Kong Mahal - why are you proud to be a Filipino - although, I am not qualified to open that.

The fact that Philippines is uncivilised with all it's exposure to the outside world can be attributed not to those you wish to blame.

You seem cultured and intelligent, therefore it can be done, you weren't a victim!

[Peanutz]

Hi Pea, thanks for commenting in my thread.

I have read some of Filipino history, although I don't pretend to know much about it.

Indeed, many things in what I have listed have their roots in colonisation, but the process of civilisation could easily take it's course. I mean, are you blaming the having 6 children whilst earning 200 peso and disregarding family planning clinics on - the Spaniards, or, the Americans? Let's get real. There's no excuse for ignorance in this modern world.

It's easy to blame things on others, but much harder to shoulder responsibility for those things ourselves.

I would love to start another thread - Pilipinas Kong Mahal - why are you proud to be a Filipino - although, I am not qualified to open that.

The fact that Philippines is uncivilised with all it's exposure to the outside world can be attributed not to those you wish to blame.

You seem cultured and intelligent, therefore it can be done, you weren't a victim!

Hold fire on there James, the process of civilisation takes years...ages...to shape one country, there is no blaming game on here, I am stating facts.
As the saying goes 'You cannot built Rome in one day', poverty and ignorance cannot be eradicated easily, to educate people and change their mentality is a long complicated process.
I absolutely agree that there is no excuse for ignorance in this modern world, but these words can apply only to those people who can understand.

I do not lose hope that one day the children of my children would inherit a different reality of Philippines.

We are getting there

[JimOttley]

Hi Pea, thanks for commenting in my thread.

I have read some of Filipino history, although I don't pretend to know much about it.

Indeed, many things in what I have listed have their roots in colonisation, but the process of civilisation could easily take it's course. I mean, are you blaming the having 6 children whilst earning 200 peso and disregarding family planning clinics on - the Spaniards, or, the Americans? Let's get real. There's no excuse for ignorance in this modern world.

It's easy to blame things on others, but much harder to shoulder responsibility for those things ourselves.

I would love to start another thread - Pilipinas Kong Mahal - why are you proud to be a Filipino - although, I am not qualified to open that.

The fact that Philippines is uncivilised with all it's exposure to the outside world can be attributed not to those you wish to blame.

You seem cultured and intelligent, therefore it can be done, you weren't a victim!

James as I mentioned recently on another thread I come from a family in Scotland where my mother was the youngest of 11 and my dad the eldest of 13, it's not long ago that this was common in the UK, every country goes through this at some stage and every country has to come to an accommodation with it at some point.

The Filipino's will get to grips with this at some point same as we did.

Jim

[Peanutz]

And please...read my words carefully, cause being a victim is not my cup of tea...

[JimOttley]

Let me add to the list of things to be proud of:

-Pub Grub
-Variety of beers and spirits
-Stephen Fry
-Birmingham (heavenly place)
-Tesco
-Christmas hoopla with snow
-Chicken tikka massala (created in scotland)
-BALTI (created in birmingham)


Yes, we make nicer indian food than indians

-British cheese
-Chocolate Fingers (ya, ya, someone will make a dirty joke)
-Creme eggs
-Fish and Chips
-Scotland
-The queen and all that pomposity
-Our wonderful history
-Our ruddy great language that all the world wants to speak

Ahh think yer just awfy homesick laddie


Jim

[James Hubbard]

Ahh think yer just awfy homesick laddie


Jim

you're damn right matey!

even peanutz is making me think of mushy peas, so whilst we're arguing, I'm thinkin, I miss my local chippy (on the corner of my street - if you must know)

[James Hubbard]

And please...read my words carefully, cause being a victim is not my cup of tea...

I have very rarely met a Filipino who will blame his country or fellow-country man for any wrongdoing! That's not good.

I'll not argue, because, this is not a debate, it's about what we LOVE about the UK,

so peaz, what do you LOVE about the uK?

[Peanutz]

you're damn right matey!

even peanutz is making me think of mushy peas, so whilst we're arguing, I'm thinkin, I miss my local chippy (on the corner of my street - if you must know)

By the way, I love English Sunday Roast with lots of gravy...
and..and...cream tea one of my favorites!

[James Hubbard]

By the way, I love English Sunday Roast with lots of gravy...
and..and...cream tea one of my favorites!

what about bailey's cream tea?

sunday roast is beautiful british stuff

ooohhh, stuffing

I am homesick now that i've been gone for 11.5 months! I'm comin back in 2 weeks lolz and I am homesick NOW! lol

[Peanutz]

I have very rarely met a Filipino who will blame his country or fellow-country man for any wrongdoing! That's not good.

I'll not argue, because, this is not a debate, it's about what we LOVE about the UK,

so peaz, what do you LOVE about the uK?

Ahh! You should hear me talking about ALL the wrong doings about my country and my fellow-country man, I think they would call me very unpatriotic and suplada. I am aware of its ugly side.
I cannot ignore where I came from, and I suffer when I see my fellow Filipino's who are suffering because of their own ignorance, but no one is to blame...let history do its course and hopefully one day it will be a better place for the younger generation.

[Peanutz]

The Filipino's will get to grips with this at some point same as we did.

Jim[/QUOTE]


Damn right Jim!

[James Hubbard]

Ahh! You should hear me talking about ALL the wrong doings about my country and my fellow-country man, I think they would call me very unpatriotic and suplada. I am aware of its ugly side.
I cannot ignore where I came from, and I suffer when I see my fellow Filipino's who are suffering because of their own ignorance, but no one is to blame...let history do its course and hopefully one day it will be a better place for the younger generation.

If you don't mind the redirect here:

this isn't our subject ...

we're talking about things to be proud of in Britain

[JimOttley]

If you don't mind the redirect here:

this isn't our subject ...

we're talking about things to be proud of in Britain

Fair point mate but you yourself were the first one to open it wider in post #9

I kept my first post on this thread deliberately about things that were special about home for exactly that reason


Jim

[Peanutz]

If you don't mind the redirect here:

this isn't our subject ...

we're talking about things to be proud of in Britain

Now that is a very English thing

[Tish]

Cheese and Onion pie with bake beans.

Pie, Peas and gravy

Jam rolly polly

Apple pie and cream or with custard

Any type of sarnies with crisps

The list goes on and on for me

Tish

[James Hubbard]

Fair point mate but you yourself were the first one to open it wider in post #9

I kept my first post on this thread deliberately about things that were special about home for exactly that reason


Jim

i can only compare it to the philippines, as those are the only 2 i have lived in, yet you make a fair point, made well too.

[James Hubbard]

Cheese and Onion pie with bake beans.

Pie, Peas and gravy

Jam rolly polly

Apple pie and cream or with custard

Any type of sarnies with crisps

The list goes on and on for me

Tish

beautiful

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