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    The BNP

    Now that the BNP has been forced to amend its constitution and allow none white people into their ranks (see story).. I have a question?

    What would happen if enough none white people joined the BNP as paying members and voted on a new leader.. A none white leader for the BNP?

    And another question. Could they also amend the BNPs constitution even more and make it ultra liberal-left leaning?

    The mind boggles in how far the BNP could be ruined!


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    They need to put it to the vote with the members, and as they are all inbred retards, they'll stuggle to figure out what the big words are in the question!
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    There are sharia courts operating in certain northern towns try going to pakistan at the minute and opening a european style court I have had a lot to do with muslims in several different countries,quite a lot of them are hypocritical to be honest,cross over the Karakhoram's from Pakistan into china,head to the nearest large town,Kashgar,its like the wild-west with pakistanis whoring and drinking,the wildest party I ever attended in Pakistan was customs officials p**sed as newts on confiscated alcohol and "Hunza-water",when I was based in Islamabad I was often asked to buy whisky from 5* hotels



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    Northerer, just my thought too.

    I guess its just around the corner when all National teams will have to include anybody from any country.

    And there will be no women only teams, or men only teams, and every one will have to compete with everyone else. So mixed football. cricket, rugby, boxing .................

    No segregated changing rooms, hospital wards, public toilets ............

    Or am I just being as stupid as those who say / make it the law, that no group can choose who they want as a member ?


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    The slime BNP has been allowed to surface from under the rocks, by the ineptitude and carelessness of this gov in regard to lack of border controls, unchecked immigration leading to creation of no go areas ghettos.

    The discontent within the indigenous population is growing, and we may yet see open revolts, unless someone in charge does something tangible to sort of stop, or reverse the trend to some degree.

    It is all very good and very nice for us open minded and racially unbiased folks, welcoming the diversity of it all, but unfortunately we have to realize that the scum lives here too, and it is too late to deal with it efficiently.
    They have managed to sow the seeds of discord, thanks to incompetent, greedy politicians, only worried about their status and income, and the task of re-educating people, on the matter, is going to be very hard if not impossible.

    My fear is that, not content with a couple of seats in Europe, they will gain some in Parliament.... And that is something which may drag democracy down the pan...


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    The slime BNP has been allowed to surface from under the rocks, by the ineptitude and carelessness of this gov in regard to lack of border controls, unchecked immigration leading to creation of no go areas ghettos.

    The discontent within the indigenous population is growing, and we may yet see open revolts, unless someone in charge does something tangible to sort of stop, or reverse the trend to some degree.

    It is all very good and very nice for us open minded and racially unbiased folks, welcoming the diversity of it all, but unfortunately we have to realize that the scum lives here too, and it is too late to deal with it efficiently.
    They have managed to sow the seeds of discord, thanks to incompetent, greedy politicians, only worried about their status and income, and the task of re-educating people, on the matter, is going to be very hard if not impossible.

    My fear is that, not content with a couple of seats in Europe, they will gain some in Parliament.... And that is something which may drag democracy down the pan...
    I echo your sentiments Dom. However, I refer to your last sentence and I beg the question - 'What democracy?'

    Indeed, philosophically speaking, democracy is somewhat of an abstract concept.

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    I refer to democracy in 'political' terms.

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    My fear is that, not content with a couple of seats in Europe, they will gain some in Parliament.... And that is something which may drag democracy down the pan...

    Aromulus. I am not a supporter of BNP, nor any extreme group who seek to impose their will on others, but doesn't 'democracy' imply all should be allowed their view. If not, then its a slippery slope to, those who can decide who can be represented and those who cant, with the result: no democracy.

    Isn't it better that the majority can be allowed to ridicule those, on ALL SIDES, with whom they do not agree?


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    but doesn't 'democracy' imply all should be allowed their view.
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    You are right.

    But in a case like this there should be exceptions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
    You are right.

    But in a case like this there should be exceptions.
    But who will decide?

    At present in the UK I believe the law provides for extreme cases where there is incitement to act against another Group. Don't you think that is enough ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    At present in the UK I believe the law provides for extreme cases where there is incitement to act against another Group. Don't you think that is enough ?
    Where is the enforcement..??

    Provisions of laws and enforcing them are two separate issues.
    The police are afraid to act in case they get sued for all sorts of ridiculous claims against them, or individual officers.
    Gone are the days of the copper on a white charger wading into the rioters... And restore peace.

    Authority has been eroded to nothing.
    And BNP is taking advantage of what has been put in front of them... A captive audience, sick and tired of their MPs not listening or acting on the collective wishes and fears.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aromulus View Post
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    Gone are the days of the copper on a white charger wading into the rioters... And restore peace.
    Obviously haven't been on a demo recently then. In my experience they are worse than they ever were


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemallorca View Post
    This weekend there is going to be a demonstation by muslims for Sharia law in this country !!!! would not this be an exception, its all we need to stir up more race hatred.... Unless the government dont do something about the mass immigration we have in this country, then parties like the BNP will flourish, and become popular..
    For me from what I know many Law abiding Muslims who are very religous dont want Sharia Law and prefer secular Law as they think like the Muslims in the past where they protected all religons living in their areas. They tend to ignore them as the extreme fringe tend to thrive on the attention i understand.

    So whatever extremist bigot they are dont give them the oxygen of publicty
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemallorca View Post
    This weekend there is going to be a demonstation by muslims for Sharia law in this country !!!! would not this be an exception, its all we need to stir up more race hatred.... Unless the government dont do something about the mass immigration we have in this country, then parties like the BNP will flourish, and become popular..
    Sadly, these idiots are always out in force when ever the moment to get a bit of press comes along. Being in a minority of a minority, they like to shout loud and scream Jihad whenever the chance comes available. All in an effort to boost their own membership with disillusioned young Muslims.

    And yes. It is pathetic that they incite hatred and violence but the wimps in Government would rather ban a Dutch MP than begin criminal prosecutions on these shores against open and outright treason. When it comes to Geert Wilders, I truly think he is having a bit of a laugh when he says he wants the Qur'an banned, and compares it to Mein Kampf. Yes, the Qur'an inspires violence and so did Mein Kampf. But so did the Bible!

    I think one problem we have in this country, indeed this continent. Is that we are not naturally a nation of immigrants, making it difficult to adjust to the changes they bring. But Britain is changing, and in many ways for the better. But until we make it clear that integration is not an opt in or out option to all immigrants, we will have problems like this for some time to come!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northerner View Post

    I think one problem we have in this country, indeed this continent. Is that we are not naturally a nation of immigrants, making it difficult to adjust to the changes they bring. But Britain is changing, and in many ways for the better. But until we make it clear that integration is not an opt in or out option to all immigrants, we will have problems like this for some time to come!

    Hey I thought most of the Whiteys i know are a bit this bit that very few are English back untill the 1700's say.

    The UK as far as im aware has had always had a lot of immigrants even if they are only from other european countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somebody View Post
    Hey I thought most of the Whiteys i know are a bit this bit that very few are English back untill the 1700's say.

    The UK as far as im aware has had always had a lot of immigrants even if they are only from other european countries.
    Yes we are all immigrants

    Allow me to explain.. When my parents came to the UK, they settled down and had a family. Just like most immigrants, arriving and settling in and making a home for themselves.

    The people in the video link I posted are not interested in just settling down. They want special privileges! They want Sharia (Sharia literally means law, so the word in itself is enough).. They want the natives to change their way of life for the one proposed by a tiny minority of people. And they will mention freedom of speech when people criticize their inflammatory ramblings, but prescribe the death penalty for a Danish cartoonist or a Dutch MP who says some insensitive things at times which they find insulting...

    99% of immigrants to this country accept the laws of the land and the liberal views of the populace. These people - do not!


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    but doesn't 'democracy' imply all should be allowed their view.
    i feel we should live in a country where we are allowed a uncensored and true democracy to air our views but this would just result in it being abused?

    it isnt just the BNP,its also the muslim extremist then we could have hardcore porn shown at primetime....seems to me people cant be trusted so we need laws
    i have learnt to do what my wife says!


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    Alan, I appreciate 'where you are coming from' but I think most people have an everyday idea, as Wikipedia definition:-

    "Even though there is no specific, universally accepted definition of 'democracy' there are two principles that any definition of democracy includes, equality and freedom. These principles are reflected by all citizens being equal before the law, and having equal access to power. Additionally, all citizens are able to enjoy legitimized freedoms and liberties, which are usually protected by a constitution."


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    If democracy is so why is it a different process in each democratic country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    If democracy is so why is it a different process in each democratic country?
    If that is a serious question, which I accept it may not be !

    It is because the word -democracy- does not have one universal meaning and thus can be used to describe a number of different systems.

    Maybe like -motor car- they are all similar but at the extremes very different. Or humans etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johncar54 View Post
    If that is a serious question
    Yes!

    It's a generic statement question on a public forum that is asking for other people's views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    Yes!
    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post

    It's a generic statement question on a public forum that is asking for other people's views.


    Well in that case, I am glad I gave you my answer.


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    Democracy...... A joke at times....

    Election times is a democratic process... That is, in my opinion, where everything democratic ends.

    Because after that, whoever gets elected seems to think that the mandate given to them by the voters for dealing with issues close to their hearts, does not matter at all, and it is just seen as a nuisance.


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    Remember the main reason we didn't have an EU Referendum? "You can't trust the public"

    Another reason was; "The public just don't understand it" - So how many MP's actually read it all? Probably count them on your hand.

    If they ae so clever with these things, why not test them? Those that pass get a vote.
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    why not test them? Those that pass get a vote.

    I don't think you meant the electorate but maybe that would be a good idea.

    After all one must pass a test before driving a car, and who we vote for is more important than driving.

    I think I am petty safe in saying, although I will get shot for saying it, a large percentage of the electorate probably don't understand the reasons why they might choose one candidate rather than another.

    Many vote labour because its the working mans party or conservative because it not the work mans party, or Social Democratic because they should be given a chance.'

    And, its probably those who don't understand why they should vote for one party or another, who's vote decides who get elected.


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    I vote for the one with the best pubic hair style..... it shows effort!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    I vote for the one with the best pubic hair style..... it shows effort!
    That would be the merkin party,a different style every day
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    If muslim can have their say then i`ll happily listen to the BNP. If they cant have their say then neither should muslims. Simple really.
    I`ll also be more than happy if I never heard or saw either of them for the rest of my lifetime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adam&chryss View Post
    If muslim can have their say then i`ll happily listen to the BNP.
    One of the problems in the UK is just this statement, confusing relgion with politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Win2Win View Post
    One of the problems in the UK is just this statement, confusing relgion with politics.
    I couldnt agree more but it seems that most of the BNP policies seem to surround muslims and their beliefs so I guess thats politics and religion mixed.


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