Under old system

[joebloggs]

work is permitted for up to 20 hours each week rising to full time hours during holiday periods under the old or new rules for students

[fatedtoloveyou]

its different...other school it allows student to work more than 20 hours per week if youre under the old system. not unlike tier 4 its limited.

[joebloggs]

you were never allowed to work more than 20hrs, but on some nvq courses some did, because nvq is mostly work experience, thats why the gov changed it so you have to spend time in a class room now..

[fatedtoloveyou]

im nvq so i can work 40 hours because others work more than 40 hours.

[James Hubbard]

im nvq so i can work 40 hours because others work more than 40 hours.

That's a logical fallacy.

Assumption 1) I am an accountant
Assumption 2) Other accountants lie and steal
Assumption 3) It's OK for me to do so.

Not the case, because between Assumption 2 and assumption 3 you need to make the logical leap from "doing" something to it being "ok to do" the thing.

So remove Assumption 2b, and your conclusion is logically not valid.

However.

I once knew a chinese student, let's call him "Mr Dong" (as that is his name)

1) He is only allowed to work 20 hours
2) He worked more than 20 hours
3) He left country for a holiday
4) He wasn't allowed back into country again
5) It's because of his work time being above what he's allowed.


So ... in closing, all I'll say is ... you want to take the risk?

[vbkelly]

That's a logical fallacy.

Assumption 1) I am an accountant
Assumption 2) Other accountants lie and steal
Assumption 3) It's OK for me to do so.

Not the case, because between Assumption 2 and assumption 3 you need to make the logical leap from "doing" something to it being "ok to do" the thing.

So remove Assumption 2b, and your conclusion is logically not valid.

However.

I once knew a chinese student, let's call him "Mr Dong" (as that is his name)

1) He is only allowed to work 20 hours
2) He worked more than 20 hours
3) He left country for a holiday
4) He wasn't allowed back into country again
5) It's because of his work time being above what he's allowed.


So ... in closing, all I'll say is ... you want to take the risk?

agree! but some student visa people their intention to coming here is to work work and work, they don't use the purpose of their visa as long as they are here in the uk

[James Hubbard]

agree! but some student visa people their intention to coming here is to work work and work, they don't use the purpose of their visa as long as they are here in the uk

As soon as the inspectors get a whiff, then the aforementioned will be out on their . . . if you get a student visa on false pretenses, it'll be a black mark against you for the rest of your life! Not worth it. To work, you get a work permit. It is a courtesy to students that they are allowed to work 20 hours. They should just say "thank you. I'll take it" instead of being greedy!

[cheesewiz]

im nvq so i can work 40 hours because others work more than 40 hours.

student not allowed to work morethan 40 hours unless during school holidays. The money you are going to spend for your visa, school fee, accomodation etc think million times if your purpose it just to work bec you can't survive here for only 20 hours work and if you work morethan that you are in big trouble, IMO.