Immigration Topic! I feel sick and tired!

[pennybarry]

I was at school yesterday, at the canteen, my classmates chatting about immigrants. They said their benefits are affected because of immigrants coming in the UK. Their benefits is decreasing and they moaning about immigrants who are staying here for years and still couldn't talk english. Blahblahblah

If you watch television, it's the same. It's always the topic and seems really a big problem of UK. blahbalahblah

If you read newspapers, same topic.Blahbalhblah

I told my husband, I feel bit affected as his wife is a foreigner and hear moanings , jobless at the moment, claiming benefits.

Lucky are those birds from other countries and migrates to UK, if british lives close to lakes and streams, and watch the birds at lakes/streams/rivers, then they feel happy anout migrated birds here. But if human beings migrates here, I don't know if they are happy.

[Jay&Zobel]

I was at school yesterday, at the canteen, my classmates chatting about immigrants. They said their benefits are affected because of immigrants coming in the UK. Their benefits is decreasing and they moaning about immigrants who are staying here for years and still couldn't talk english. Blahblahblah

If you watch television, it's the same. It's always the topic and seems really a big problem of UK. blahbalahblah

If you read newspapers, same topic.Blahbalhblah

I told my husband, I feel bit affected as his wife is a foreigner and hear moanings , jobless at the moment, claiming benefits.

Lucky are those birds from other countries and migrates to UK, if british lives close to lakes and streams, and watch the birds at lakes/streams/rivers, then they feel happy anout migrated birds here. But if human beings migrates here, I don't know if they are happy.

Find yourself a job then hehe, so you won't feel guilty

Ah well, some immigrants are really not doing anything by the looks of things.

[pennybarry]

Find yourself a job then hehe, so you won't feel guilty

Ah well, some immigrants are really not doing anything by the looks of things.

Well I paid lots of tax for 3 years and just had an operation. Of course I do, but I'm studying at the moment and I prefer part time only. Even Jobcentreplus sends me application forms from other companies which I feel pressure. My former employer said, he will rehire me, once I really feel better as my job there requires lifting.

[pumpkins]

hi pennyberry
i wonder why your classmates letting you hear about their moaning, they know that you are one of the people they talking about.do they do that on purpose so you will feel guilty? just ignore them..
show them that you are happy with your head held high

[pennybarry]

hi pennyberry
i wonder why your classmates letting you hear about their moaning, they know that you are one of the people they talking about.do they do that on purpose so you will feel guilty? just ignore them..
show them that you are happy with your head held high

I didn't ignore them. I moved and sat between them and shared some topics like filipino nurses here. I said we have 40,000+ nurses here and paying tax, and cannot work here if not gained at least 7.0 in their IELTS. And they didn't know about it.

[JimOttley]

I didn't ignore them. I moved and sat between them and shared some topics like filipino nurses here. I said we have 40,000+ nurses here and paying tax, and cannot work here if not gained at least 7.0 in their IELTS. And they didn't know about it.

Too right! Well done Penny, take the fight to them and educate them otherwise they will just absorb the usual stereotypical gossip and repeat it over and over.


Jim

[joebloggs]

I didn't ignore them. I moved and sat between them and shared some topics like filipino nurses here. I said we have 40,000+ nurses here and paying tax, and cannot work here if not gained at least 7.0 in their IELTS. And they didn't know about it.

and non British Europeans who want to work in the UK don't need to take ILETS, it's discrimination against non Europeans and crazy that someone who cannot read, write or speak English to a set standard could treat someone, if your first language is not English then you should have to take ILETS whether your from the EU, outside the EU or from another galaxy

[James Hubbard]

or from another galaxy

Otherwise known as Manchester.

[somebody]

and non British Europeans who want to work in the UK don't need to take ILETS, it's discrimination against non Europeans and crazy that someone who cannot read, write or speak English to a set standard could treat someone, if your first language is not English then you should have to take ILETS whether your from the EU, outside the EU or from another galaxy

Most companies get round that by insisting on a minimum of GCSE pass in English and sometimes Maths for all employees

[Jay&Zobel]

Well I paid lots of tax for 3 years and just had an operation. Of course I do, but I'm studying at the moment and I prefer part time only. Even Jobcentreplus sends me application forms from other companies which I feel pressure. My former employer said, he will rehire me, once I really feel better as my job there requires lifting.

hi pennyberry
i wonder why your classmates letting you hear about their moaning, they know that you are one of the people they talking about.do they do that on purpose so you will feel guilty? just ignore them..
show them that you are happy with your head held high

Yep just ignore them, you don't have to feel pressured about it. They are just moaning and wanted more money from the government. Hope you get well soon

[pennybarry]

Yep just ignore them, you don't have to feel pressured about it. They are just moaning and wanted more money from the government. Hope you get well soon

Thanks J&Z, Pumpkins!
You are right! They really need money from benefits. But to be honest, they don't know that people like us, doesn't want to be a burden of UK gov't.

I asked my classmate who live close to ours and she is also my classmate in claiming benefits. I asked her if she got job applications from them and surprised! she isn't. . I consider myself lucky.

[pennybarry]

hi pennyberry

Poor hubby, his name always changed with Berry

[pumpkins]

Poor hubby, his name always changed with Berry

my apologies to you pennybarry

[Arthur Little]

Find yourself a job then hehe, so you won't feel guilty

Ahhh ... not quite so easy, Zobel. Myrna has been here since March. Having a BSc + part-Masters', she taught for 22 years at a Govt High School in the Phils ... yet her degree doesn't "cut any ice" with the General Teaching Council in Scotland.

Conversely, BECAUSE of her graduate status, she's considered to be over-qualified for the likes of say, shop work ...

... so, for the time being, at least, she's sort of "piggy-in-the-middle". And I'll bet she is only one of many who find themselves in a similar situation!

[Jay&Zobel]

Ahhh ... not quite so easy, Zobel. Myrna has been here since March. Having a BSc + part-Masters', she taught for 22 years at a Govt High School in the Phils ... yet her degree doesn't "cut any ice" with the General Teaching Council in Scotland.

Conversely, BECAUSE of her graduate status, she's considered to be over-qualified for the likes of say, shop work ...

... so, for the time being, at least, she's sort of "piggy-in-the-middle. And I'll bet she is only one of many who find themselves in a similar situation!

Yes, you are right Arthur, sad but really right. Plenty of immigrants are very qualified to do a particular job that's why they are not being hired. But what annoys me most are those people who are moaning about income benefits but still wont do anything to find a decent job. All they want is to get money from the government and just be lazy.

I pray your Myrna will find one soon. (what about not declaring her qualifications? eeekk, will it help?)

[Arthur Little]

Plenty of immigrants are very qualified to do a particular job that's why they are not being hired. But what annoys me most are those people who are moaning about income benefits but still wont do anything to find a decent job. All they want is to get money from the government and just be lazy.

Exactly, Zobel,

I pray your Myrna will find one soon. (what about not declaring her qualifications? eeekk, will it help?)

Many thanks! As regards not declaring her qualifications ... see my response to Pumpkins' post.

[darren-b]

Many thanks! As regards not declaring her qualifications ... see my response to Pumpkins' post.

Bit confused. You may have to provide a CV but it doesn't mean you have to provide all the information. Being modest on a CV isn't a problem (most people do the opposite....) and is worth dong if you feel your wife is being overlooked because she is too qualified.

[Sophie]

[QUOTE=Jay&Zobel;185206]Plenty of immigrants are very qualified to do a particular job that's why they are not being hired. But what annoys me most are those people who are moaning about income benefits but still wont do anything to find a decent job. All they want is to get money from the government and just be lazy.QUOTE]

Very true

[pennybarry]

Ahhh ... not quite so easy, Zobel. Myrna has been here since March. Having a BSc + part-Masters', she taught for 22 years at a Govt High School in the Phils ... yet her degree doesn't "cut any ice" with the General Teaching Council in Scotland.

Conversely, BECAUSE of her graduate status, she's considered to be over-qualified for the likes of say, shop work ...

... so, for the time being, at least, she's sort of "piggy-in-the-middle. And I'll bet she is only one of many who find themselves in a similar situation!

You're absolutely right Arthur. There are many here who has degrees and tring to find a good one, but it's not that easy.

Anyway, we are not picky, as much as possible being a good citizen is our goal and not a burden here.

Goodluck to your wifey Arthur. How about if she enrol some courses to help her employed someday?

[pumpkins]

Ahhh ... not quite so easy, Zobel. Myrna has been here since March. Having a BSc + part-Masters', she taught for 22 years at a Govt High School in the Phils ... yet her degree doesn't "cut any ice" with the General Teaching Council in Scotland.

Conversely, BECAUSE of her graduate status, she's considered to be over-qualified for the likes of say, shop work ...

... so, for the time being, at least, she's sort of "piggy-in-the-middle. And I'll bet she is only one of many who find themselves in a similar situation!

you don't need to tell you have graduate status to be a shop worker..if you are serious about working you tell them what they need to hear...end of the day it pays better than back home...nothing wrong with ''rollleyes..shop work''

[Tawi2]

you don't need to tell you have graduate status to be a shop worker..if you are serious about working you tell them what they need to hear...end of the day it pays better than back home...nothing wrong with ''rollleyes..shop work''

Good philosophy Pumpkins,in the words of my grandfather "Owts better than nowt"

[Sophie]

As what everyone said here already, just ignore them penny.....do not entertain whatever they say....
The more you listen to them, the more bad you will just feel.....you know better...
You know you're not a burden in this country and you made sufficient contributions in the past years as a taxpayer here....

[Arthur Little]

you *don't need to tell you have graduate status to be a shop worker..if you are serious about working you tell them what they need to hear...end of the day it pays better than back home...nothing wrong with ''rollleyes..shop work''

Ah, but you *DO! Practically every employer here in the UK nowadays expects applicants to produce a CV ... especially large superstores (even if the work involves nothing more than making up sandwiches). I know this for a fact, as one of the jobs Myrna applied for entailed doing JUST THAT, and she was turned down ... presumably because she was [academically] over-qualified, although I cannot be certain, since she didn't even get the length of an interview.

No, there's nothing wrong with shop work ... nor had my post been intended to imply there WAS! But whereas when I was young, one could simply walk into ... let's say ... a shop, office ... or whatever, and ask if there were any vacancies available, current Employment Legislation dictates that ALL jobs must be advertised.

Thank God, I'm retired!

[James Hubbard]

Ah, but you *DO! Practically every employer here in the UK nowadays expects applicants to produce a CV ... especially large superstores (even if the work involves nothing more than making up sandwiches). I know this for a fact, as one of the jobs Myrna applied for entailed doing JUST THAT, and she was turned down ... presumably because she was over-qualified, although I cannot be certain, since she didn't even get the length of an interview.

No, there's nothing wrong with shop work ... nor had my post been intended to imply there WAS! But whereas when I was young, one could simply walk into ... let's say ... a shop, office ... or whatever, and ask if there were any vacancies available, current Employment Legislation dictates that ALL jobs must be advertised.

Thank God, I'm retired!

In a very dark time for me in the past, I got rejected by 3 different branches of mcdonalds on the premise that I'm overeducated seeing I have been to University!

Damn you FE! You were supposed to get me a job, not get me rejected!

[pennybarry]

you don't need to tell you have graduate status to be a shop worker..if you are serious about working you tell them what they need to hear...end of the day it pays better than back home...nothing wrong with ''rollleyes..shop work''

I always have my CV, I don't change the Education and Working experience.
It will be confusing if you changed it if you apply any position.
If employers says I'm overqualified, I say, I'm willing to start from the bottom.
If employers says I'm under qualified, I just says give me a break Sir!
We should tell the truth in our CV. IMHO

Ah, but you *DO! Practically every employer here in the UK nowadays expects applicants to produce a CV ... especially large superstores (even if the work involves nothing more than making up sandwiches). I know this for a fact, as one of the jobs Myrna applied for entailed doing JUST THAT, and she was turned down ... presumably because she was [academically] over-qualified, although I cannot be certain, since she didn't even get the length of an interview.

No, there's nothing wrong with shop work ... nor had my post been intended to imply there WAS! But whereas when I was young, one could simply walk into ... let's say ... a shop, office ... or whatever, and ask if there were any vacancies available, current Employment Legislation dictates that ALL jobs must be advertised.

Thank God, I'm retired!

You don't need CV anymore.

[Sophie]

Myrna has been here since March. Having a BSc + part-Masters', she taught for 22 years at a Govt High School in the Phils ... yet her degree doesn't "cut any ice" with the General Teaching Council in Scotland.

Conversely, BECAUSE of her graduate status, she's considered to be over-qualified for the likes of say, shop work ...

... so, for the time being, at least, she's sort of "piggy-in-the-middle". And I'll bet she is only one of many who find themselves in a similar situation!

I couldn't agree with you more arthur Sad reality
Anyway, i wish myrna all the best on her future job prospects

[Arthur Little]

I couldn't agree with you more arthur Sad reality
Anyway, i wish myrna all the best on her future job prospects

Many thanks, Sophie.

[somebody]

Ahhh ... not quite so easy, Zobel. Myrna has been here since March. Having a BSc + part-Masters', she taught for 22 years at a Govt High School in the Phils ... yet her degree doesn't "cut any ice" with the General Teaching Council in Scotland.

Conversely, BECAUSE of her graduate status, she's considered to be over-qualified for the likes of say, shop work ...

... so, for the time being, at least, she's sort of "piggy-in-the-middle". And I'll bet she is only one of many who find themselves in a similar situation!

Simply dont tell the employer if you have to many qualfications. You can only get in trouble if you make up Qualfications in most situations.

[bornatbirth]

you should ignore them!

immigration as been around for years and it wont matter whos in goverment,all these countries signing upto the eu are getting bad press because we are getting told there flooding the country.

seems to me the are doing all the jobs uk citizens wont do and better too,so next time tell them to find out all the facts before they chat about a subject they have limited knowledge on.

[pennybarry]

you should ignore them!

immigration as been around for years and it wont matter whos in goverment,all these countries signing upto the eu are getting bad press because we are getting told there flooding the country.

seems to me the are doing all the jobs uk citizens wont do and better too,so next time tell them to find out all the facts before they chat about a subject they have limited knowledge on.

No, I can be friendly with them and share what's the topic!

Yes! Gov't seems stands for EU only and I'm jealous!
Hubby said they can claim benefits from day 1. But we, that is not applicable.