Introduction/Advice needed.

[IainBusby]

I just want to thank everyone for there introductions and comments about adoption.

I know its still early yet because my step daughter is not with my wife and I yet. I was just wanting to gather as much info as I could to prepare myself and discuss the process with my wife.

Thanks for the comments from JoeBloggs about changing her name via deed poll its something I hadn't even considered.

My step daugters father is not on her birth certificate and she has never met him so I do know this makes the process easier.

Steve.

You really need to discuss this carefully with your wife because a change of name by deed poll is not recognised in the Philippines and it might have long term implications with regard to her rights as a Filipino.

My wife and I changed my step-daughters name by deed poll and it was only after we contacted the Philippine embassy here in the UK that we found out that we could not change the name on her Filipino passport because a change of name by deed poll is not recognised in the Philippines.

The only circumstances under which they recognise a change in a childs name is as part of an adoption process carried out in the Philippines courts.

We have just applied for British citizenship for both my wife and step daughter and with regard to my step-daughter we applied using her new name and submitted the deed poll certificate with her application. We don't expect any problem with her application and if as we expect, she is granted British citizenship, it will be in her new name.

Once citizenship has been granted, the next step will be to apply for British passports for both of them and then the final step would usually be to apply to the Philippine embassy for dual citizenship, which will restore privileges that are enjoyed by all Filipino citizens, such as unlimited stay in the Philippines and the right to own land in the Philippines etc.

In the case of my step-daughter, we really don't know what will happen when she becomes a British citizen as far as her Filipino citizenship is concerned because of the unrecognised change of name, she may end up in a sort of limbo as far as that is concerned, although I do intend to contact the Philippine embassy and ask them if it is still possible for her to have dual citizenship, albeit with two different names on two different passports.

Iain.

[joebloggs]

You really need to discuss this carefully with your wife because a change of name by deed poll is not recognised in the Philippines and it might have long term implications with regard to her rights as a Filipino.

My wife and I changed my step-daughters name by deed poll and it was only after we contacted the Philippine embassy here in the UK that we found out that we could not change the name on her Filipino passport because a change of name by deed poll is not recognised in the Philippines.

The only circumstances under which they recognise a change in a childs name is as part of an adoption process carried out in the Philippines courts.

We have just applied for British citizenship for both my wife and step daughter and with regard to my step-daughter we applied using her new name and submitted the deed poll certificate with her application. We don't expect any problem with her application and if as we expect, she is granted British citizenship, it will be in her new name.

Once citizenship has been granted, the next step will be to apply for British passports for both of them and then the final step would usually be to apply to the Philippine embassy for dual citizenship, which will restore privileges that are enjoyed by all Filipino citizens, such as unlimited stay in the Philippines and the right to own land in the Philippines etc.

In the case of my step-daughter, we really don't know what will happen when she becomes a British citizen as far as her Filipino citizenship is concerned because of the unrecognised change of name, she may end up in a sort of limbo as far as that is concerned, although I do intend to contact the Philippine embassy and ask them if it is still possible for her to have dual citizenship, albeit with two different names on two different passports.

Iain.

i would have thought, as changes by deed poll are legal in the uk then i would have thought their should be no problem in the uk with her using your surname or any other country and getting a British passport in your name, yes the phils don't recognise name changes unless its thru a court,but i would have thought their should be no problem with her getting and renewing a phils passport in her old name (the name of her birth cert),some people have 2 passports with 2 different surnames in, thou i would be interested to know how your daughter gets on

did you ask the deed poll people about this Iain ? or the phils embassy ?


Philippines
2001 RA 9048 amends Articles 376 and 412 of the Civil Code of the Philippines
Civil Code of the Philippines

The Civil Code of the Philippines is the product of the codification of private law in the Philippines. It is the general law that governs family law and property law in the Philippines....
, which prohibit the change of name or surname of a person, or any correction or change of entry in a civil register without a judicial order. Administrative Order No. 1 Series of 2001, implemented the law.(*) It authorizes the city or municipal civil registrar or the consul general to correct a clerical or typographical error in an entry and/or change the first name or nickname in the civil register without need of a judicial order.

Name and gender change
In case of controversial and substantial changes, Philippines
Philippines that must include the local civil registrar in the petition, since RA 9048 and Rule 108 (Cancellation or correction of entries in the Civil Registry)(*) of the Rules of Court, do not allow the change of gender in a birth certificate. The only landmark case in the Philippines on name and gender legal change is the Jeff case. name from Jennifer to Jeff, and his gender from female to male.

[adam&chryss]

when we got here in England. me and hubby attended a seminar regarding adoption here in UK. In that seminar before you can adopt a child he/she should live with you for a minimum of 6 months. then the process will take about 3 months.
as far as I remember you will only have to pay between £120-£160... unlike when you adopt in PI

as of now me and hubby still thinking if he will adopt my son or just change his name through deed poll. I need to find and talk to my son's biological father first. because wether we like it or not the social workers that will handle our case need my ex approval. so, i might talk to him first before my hubby pursue on adopting my son.

[IainBusby]

did you ask the deed poll people about this Iain ? or the phils embassy ?

We only asked the Phils embassy and they just said that we could not change the name on her passport unless I adopted her in Phils. They said that as part of the adoption process in Phils you recieve a document that can be used to change her name with the NSO etc. I didn't ask about whether she would be able to continue using her old passport under her old name if she became a British citizen, but I do intend to ask them this, just to see what the situation will be once she has British citizenship.