Introduction/Advice needed.

[Lpool_Steve]

Hi to everyone who is a member here.
My name is Steve Im 37 and Im from Liverpool. I got married over three years ago to my beautiful wife Amy. My wife is from Davao and has been living here since Sept 06. We also have a 2yr daughter together and she is a real beauty.

The advice I am after is that my wife has a 12yr old daughter who is still currently living in the Philippines with her grandparents and I am wanting to adopt her as my own. An visa application has already been placed with the embassy for her to join us both here. (we are now just waiting an answer)

I am just after any information about the way to go about adopting my step daughter and the possible fee's involved.

Thanks
Steve

[KeithD]

Another scouser

Just wait until the visa is processed and the daughter has lived with you a good while before doing anything else.

[joebloggs]

Hi to everyone who is a member here.
My name is Steve Im 37 and Im from Liverpool. I got married over three years ago to my beautiful wife Amy. My wife is from Davao and has been living here since Sept 06. We also have a 2yr daughter together and she is a real beauty.

The advice I am after is that my wife has a 12yr old daughter who is still currently living in the Philippines with her grandparents and I am wanting to adopt her as my own. An visa application has already been placed with the embassy for her to join us both here. (we are now just waiting an answer)

I am just after any information about the way to go about adopting my step daughter and the possible fee's involved.

Thanks
Steve

Another scouser
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i don't know if i can offer any help to a scouser after last weeks game



why do you want to adopt her ? could be a costly, lengthy and a difficult process in the phils, once here she could change her name by deed poll.

probably better if you really want to adopt her here in the uk,

http://filipinaroses.com/showthread....light=adoption

like scouser Keith has said, i would wait til your stepdaughter is here as you've already applied for her visa, what evidence did you supply that your wife has 'sole responsibility' for her daughter ?

[Sophie]

Another scouser

i don't know if i can offer any help to a scouser after last weeks game

sorry for the mancs, congratulations scousers

[Sophie]

welcome to the forum steve

[IainBusby]

Hi to everyone who is a member here.
My name is Steve Im 37 and Im from Liverpool. I got married over three years ago to my beautiful wife Amy. My wife is from Davao and has been living here since Sept 06. We also have a 2yr daughter together and she is a real beauty.

The advice I am after is that my wife has a 12yr old daughter who is still currently living in the Philippines with her grandparents and I am wanting to adopt her as my own. An visa application has already been placed with the embassy for her to join us both here. (we are now just waiting an answer)

I am just after any information about the way to go about adopting my step daughter and the possible fee's involved.

Thanks
Steve

The only was to legally adopt her that will be recognised both here and in the Philippines is to adopt her in the Philippines, but that would be a very long and expensive process which would probably require both your wife and yourself to attend court hearings in the Philippines. You don't mention if the father of the child is mentioned on her birth certificate, but if he is then he would have to be involved on the adoption process as well.

Iain.

[tiN]

Another scouser

i don't know if i can offer any help to a scouser after last weeks game

sorry for the mancs, congratulations scousers

Welcome to theforum Steve

[liane]

Welcome to the forum!

[girl england]

Welcome to the forum!

[Arthur Little]

Hi to everyone who is a member here.
My name is Steve Im 37 and Im from Liverpool.

Welcome here, Steve. My late boss at work was a scouser too ... and I used to love mimicing his Liverpudlian accent. He even highly appreciated it when I based a 'character' part on him when I was an amateur actor with Perth Drama Club, many moons ago!

[Arthur Little]

I got married over three years ago to my beautiful wife Amy. My wife is from Davao and has been living here since Sept 06. We also have a 2yr daughter together and she is a real beauty.

My wife hails from Davao del Norte' Province [Tagum City]. We got married there last December ... and SHE came to the UK in March.

Nice to hear that you and Amy have a bonnie wee lassie, who's ALREADY a British Citizen in her own right.

[Arthur Little]

The advice I am after is that my wife has a 12yr old daughter who is still currently living in the Philippines with her grandparents and I am wanting to adopt her as my own. An visa application has already been placed with the embassy for her to join us both here. (we are now just waiting an answer)

I am just after any information about the way to go about adopting my step daughter and the possible fee's involved.

Thanks
Steve

As regards adopting your stepdaughter, I once knew a couple [with one child of their own] who wanted to adopt a two-year old infant boy whose ... then unmarried ... mother had reluctantly been coerced into placing him in a Children's Home by HER *parents simply because *THEY were unable to cope with the "social stigma" of THEIR grandchild being born out of wedlock.

Such was the harsh reality here in Britain at the dawn of the 1970s. And, I for one, thank God that society has become much more enlightened in the decades since.

Anyway, the adoption process began in November 1973, under the guidance and supervision of Social Services and, by April 1975, the various formalities finally completed, the child officially became my friends' son ... all with the minimum of fuss.

Years later, that little boy - by now in his late 30s - decided to trace his natural parents. And it was only when he obtained his original birth certificate that he frustratingly discovered there was no mention of the FATHER'S name on it. Since then, however, he's met his "real" mother several times ... though he still looks upon his adoptive parents as 'Mum & Dad'!!

Not being aware of the legalities/costs involved for adoption in the Philippines, nor the access rights of your step-daughter's father, I cannot comment further. But, in any case, I thought it worth sharing the foregoing story with you, and trust that all will be well with the visa.

[Lpool_Steve]

Hi Arthur,

Thanks for your reply. It's good to read that you that your wife is with in the UK. I know the whole visa process is a nerve racking time. Happy Anniversay for next month.

I was only in Tagum City last month with my wife and daughters. My wife's family are in New Corella about 20 mins past Tagum.

Thanks for your comments adaoption Im just trying to gather info at the minute and decide which is the best route to go down.

Steve

[Lpool_Steve]

I just want to thank everyone for there introductions and comments about adoption.

I know its still early yet because my step daughter is not with my wife and I yet. I was just wanting to gather as much info as I could to prepare myself and discuss the process with my wife.

Thanks for the comments from JoeBloggs about changing her name via deed poll its something I hadn't even considered.

My step daugters father is not on her birth certificate and she has never met him so I do know this makes the process easier.

Steve.

[joebloggs]

Thanks for the comments from JoeBloggs about changing her name via deed poll its something I hadn't even considered.

My step daugters father is not on her birth certificate and she has never met him so I do know this makes the process easier.

Steve.

my stepson still uses his mothers maiden name, no problems at all, but then he was 17 when we applied for a visa for him, the thing is that's the name everyone knew him by and it's not a problem, but for younger ones it might be.

deed poll is cheap and easy, but if think you cant change the name on her birth cert, but if i remember correctly she can apply for a passport using your surname.

good his name is not on the birth cert, but you should speak to your stepdaughter and prepare her for an interview, just in case she is asked to attend one.

[IainBusby]

I just want to thank everyone for there introductions and comments about adoption.

I know its still early yet because my step daughter is not with my wife and I yet. I was just wanting to gather as much info as I could to prepare myself and discuss the process with my wife.

Thanks for the comments from JoeBloggs about changing her name via deed poll its something I hadn't even considered.

My step daugters father is not on her birth certificate and she has never met him so I do know this makes the process easier.

Steve.

You really need to discuss this carefully with your wife because a change of name by deed poll is not recognised in the Philippines and it might have long term implications with regard to her rights as a Filipino.

My wife and I changed my step-daughters name by deed poll and it was only after we contacted the Philippine embassy here in the UK that we found out that we could not change the name on her Filipino passport because a change of name by deed poll is not recognised in the Philippines.

The only circumstances under which they recognise a change in a childs name is as part of an adoption process carried out in the Philippines courts.

We have just applied for British citizenship for both my wife and step daughter and with regard to my step-daughter we applied using her new name and submitted the deed poll certificate with her application. We don't expect any problem with her application and if as we expect, she is granted British citizenship, it will be in her new name.

Once citizenship has been granted, the next step will be to apply for British passports for both of them and then the final step would usually be to apply to the Philippine embassy for dual citizenship, which will restore privileges that are enjoyed by all Filipino citizens, such as unlimited stay in the Philippines and the right to own land in the Philippines etc.

In the case of my step-daughter, we really don't know what will happen when she becomes a British citizen as far as her Filipino citizenship is concerned because of the unrecognised change of name, she may end up in a sort of limbo as far as that is concerned, although I do intend to contact the Philippine embassy and ask them if it is still possible for her to have dual citizenship, albeit with two different names on two different passports.

Iain.

[Ji&Ma]

Hi Steve - welcome in here ans good luck to you and your wife with the adoption

[joebloggs]

You really need to discuss this carefully with your wife because a change of name by deed poll is not recognised in the Philippines and it might have long term implications with regard to her rights as a Filipino.

My wife and I changed my step-daughters name by deed poll and it was only after we contacted the Philippine embassy here in the UK that we found out that we could not change the name on her Filipino passport because a change of name by deed poll is not recognised in the Philippines.

The only circumstances under which they recognise a change in a childs name is as part of an adoption process carried out in the Philippines courts.

We have just applied for British citizenship for both my wife and step daughter and with regard to my step-daughter we applied using her new name and submitted the deed poll certificate with her application. We don't expect any problem with her application and if as we expect, she is granted British citizenship, it will be in her new name.

Once citizenship has been granted, the next step will be to apply for British passports for both of them and then the final step would usually be to apply to the Philippine embassy for dual citizenship, which will restore privileges that are enjoyed by all Filipino citizens, such as unlimited stay in the Philippines and the right to own land in the Philippines etc.

In the case of my step-daughter, we really don't know what will happen when she becomes a British citizen as far as her Filipino citizenship is concerned because of the unrecognised change of name, she may end up in a sort of limbo as far as that is concerned, although I do intend to contact the Philippine embassy and ask them if it is still possible for her to have dual citizenship, albeit with two different names on two different passports.

Iain.

i would have thought, as changes by deed poll are legal in the uk then i would have thought their should be no problem in the uk with her using your surname or any other country and getting a British passport in your name, yes the phils don't recognise name changes unless its thru a court,but i would have thought their should be no problem with her getting and renewing a phils passport in her old name (the name of her birth cert),some people have 2 passports with 2 different surnames in, thou i would be interested to know how your daughter gets on

did you ask the deed poll people about this Iain ? or the phils embassy ?


Philippines
2001 RA 9048 amends Articles 376 and 412 of the Civil Code of the Philippines
Civil Code of the Philippines

The Civil Code of the Philippines is the product of the codification of private law in the Philippines. It is the general law that governs family law and property law in the Philippines....
, which prohibit the change of name or surname of a person, or any correction or change of entry in a civil register without a judicial order. Administrative Order No. 1 Series of 2001, implemented the law.(*) It authorizes the city or municipal civil registrar or the consul general to correct a clerical or typographical error in an entry and/or change the first name or nickname in the civil register without need of a judicial order.

Name and gender change
In case of controversial and substantial changes, Philippines
Philippines that must include the local civil registrar in the petition, since RA 9048 and Rule 108 (Cancellation or correction of entries in the Civil Registry)(*) of the Rules of Court, do not allow the change of gender in a birth certificate. The only landmark case in the Philippines on name and gender legal change is the Jeff case. name from Jennifer to Jeff, and his gender from female to male.

[adam&chryss]

when we got here in England. me and hubby attended a seminar regarding adoption here in UK. In that seminar before you can adopt a child he/she should live with you for a minimum of 6 months. then the process will take about 3 months.
as far as I remember you will only have to pay between £120-£160... unlike when you adopt in PI

as of now me and hubby still thinking if he will adopt my son or just change his name through deed poll. I need to find and talk to my son's biological father first. because wether we like it or not the social workers that will handle our case need my ex approval. so, i might talk to him first before my hubby pursue on adopting my son.

[IainBusby]

did you ask the deed poll people about this Iain ? or the phils embassy ?

We only asked the Phils embassy and they just said that we could not change the name on her passport unless I adopted her in Phils. They said that as part of the adoption process in Phils you recieve a document that can be used to change her name with the NSO etc. I didn't ask about whether she would be able to continue using her old passport under her old name if she became a British citizen, but I do intend to ask them this, just to see what the situation will be once she has British citizenship.

[September]

Another scouser

Just wait until the visa is processed and the daughter has lived with you a good while before doing anything else.

That would be a good idea

Welcome to the forum Steve