visa refusal

[sarita]

refused because they believe she wants to enter uk for some personal purposes eg, working in uk and we have not lived together as man and wife more thanayear

But it is obvious why we want to go UK, we want to get work, there is non here, we marry men so we can get visa. what is wrong with that?

[jerry]

Alma was never given an interview at the embassy, and they have refused to see me or help me saying i can find out all i need on their web sites. Alma is unemployed, that is the reason they think she wants to come to uk, that and because she has no property to speak of. but she would not have to work, they admit i can support her after they looked at my finances. as i do now. but i still have to work, can not leave my job for a year, catch 22

[darren-b]

Alma was never given an interview at the embassy, and they have refused to see me or help me saying i can find out all i need on their web sites. Alma is unemployed, that is the reason they think she wants to come to uk, that and because she has no property to speak of. but she would not have to work, they admit i can support her after they looked at my finances. as i do now. but i still have to work, can not leave my job for a year, catch 22

Whether she is employed or not is irrelevant, and very few of the members here lived together in the Philippines before applying for a visa.

Can you though confirm what visa you applied for?

[aromulus]

But it is obvious why we want to go UK, we want to get work, there is non here, we marry men so we can get visa. what is wrong with that?

It may apply to your situation and maybe a few others, but lots of Pinay here may resent that ever encompassing statement of yours...

[maria_and_matt]

But it is obvious why we want to go UK, we want to get work, there is non here, we marry men so we can get visa. what is wrong with that?

is that why u r here sarita? as for me i am here coz of love.... marrying a man for a visa its just u maybe most women here on the forum are actually genuine people who married for love!

[joebloggs]

Intervening Devotion If the applicant and sponsor have been separated for a lengthy period of time before the application is submitted (for example, longer than 3 or 4 months), then evidence of intervening devotion should be included. This would normally take the form of telephone records or other forms of electronic communication. If the couple have lived separately for a longer period, travel receipts can be used to show that contact has been continual and proportionate.

If a prolonged separation is the result of mobility issues (which would include military duties or other foreign assignments), this would take the form of assignment letters or similar documentation.

When submitting email or instant messenger logs, it is important to bear in mind that intervening devotion means evidence of contact and not an exhaustive transcript of each on-line session.


i would definitely ask the ECO Manger to reconsider her application

[Ji&Ma]

But it is obvious why we want to go UK, we want to get work, there is non here, we marry men so we can get visa. what is wrong with that?

[IainBusby]

If you wife appeals to the British Embassy in Manila they will review the case before they allow it to go to the UK for the full appeal process. At this stage quite a few refusals are overturned because the Entry Clearance Manager will want to know that their reasons for refusal are rock solid before they let it get to the UK. They would want to make sure their not going to end up with egg on their faces if their decision is overturned at appeal in the UK.

If you didn't show regular contact during the times you have been apart when you submitted the application, then one of their reasons for refusal can easily be overcome by submitting evidence to show this. With regard to the other reason for refusal, you should ask them to detail the reasons that brought them to the conclusion that your wife has ulterior motives in wanting to come to the UK.

Iain.

[IainBusby]

But it is obvious why we want to go UK, we want to get work, there is non here, we marry men so we can get visa. what is wrong with that?

Looks like we have another agent provocateur in our midst.

[whiteraven]

now this case has me really worried as i havent seen my wife since we were married last dec. could only provide a few months proof of contact on skype as all my yahoo archives had been wiped i hope sending money twice a month goes towards this.

[walesrob]

But it is obvious why we want to go UK, we want to get work, there is non here, we marry men so we can get visa. what is wrong with that?

Ah yes its mikemallorca/katy again. As Blur said "We've Got A File On You", and if you attempt to register for the 3rd time, your ISP will be informed. Your choice.

[jerry]

thankyou every body. have learnt a lot today. now off to bed ,flying out tomorrow. Alma's computer is a bit antiquated so not sure if i can get on out there.will keep you informed and probably will need more advice. thanks again

[isimpson01]

Sorry to hear about your spouse visa refusal.

I also had my wife'e spouse visa refused earlier this year but was lucky and we used the good advice from many people on this site to submit more information as part of an appeal and within 3 weeks of lodging the appeal the refusal was over turned and we were granted a Visa.

Part of our refusal included my wife being unemployed since I met her. Our relationship was shorter than yours and we managed to show that we agreed jointly for my wife not to seek work as it allowed us more time to communicate and also allowed her bonding time with her family.
Under the Human Rights section I was able to give reasons why I could not join my wife full time in the Phillipines so they were contravening my Human Rights as a married man.

One difference was that my wife had an interview and that is when the issued refusal.

I also tried to contact the ECO and ECM during a visit to Manila before submitting our appeal and was not able to get an appointment over a period of almost 5 weeks trying to arrange a meeting during my stay in Manila.

No point going to the embassy as they refuse you access to the visa section without an appointment. You can see a consular without appointment but they can not discuss visa cases with you.

The appeal needs to be placed within 28 days unless you write them requesting longer to lodge appeal. If you lodge appeal in the phillipines it can take 60 working days for the ECO/ECM to review before either over turning decision or passing to AIT in UK. whole process can take 6 months or longer. we were lucky on short appeal and over turn at 1st step. The more evidence you can supply and letters of support the better.
Appealing direct to AIT is no quicker as they require time to get documents and case file from the embassy where the application was placed.

Nobody can really advise on whether to appeal or re-apply as they do not know how strong your appeal reasons are but it sounds like you have good reason to appeal.

If you decide to appeal we hope you have quick and positive outcome.
Not sure if it helped but we tried to get our MP involved and also stated press involvement about our treatment.

Good luck with whatever you decide and we are sure it is only a matter of time before your wife is with you in the UK.

[Arthur Little]

Ah yes its mikemallorca/katy again.

D'you reckon? ... some people just never seem to give up, do they!

[Arthur Little]

Sorry to learn about your predicament, Jerry. Welcome to the forum, though ... and stay tuned here for further advice.

[IainBusby]

Ah yes its mikemallorca/katy again. As Blur said "We've Got A File On You", and if you attempt to register for the 3rd time, your ISP will be informed. Your choice.

I just knew it had to be one of those cretins!