Thanks for the rep BBJOriginally Posted by Bluebirdjones
Thanks for the rep BBJ
Though you do not write books, you are the writer of your life. Because everything depends on YOU.
Mate - even if I was being set up to be scammed, I would have thought that you could be sensitive enough to restrain yourself with this deluge of cynicism before weighing in with this rather shouty assessment of the situation. I don't find it supportive - it comes over as smug, impertinent and makes assumptions about my judgement.
At some point one has to set aside the suspicion or it becomes incompatible with pursuing the relationship. One has to commit for ones own peace of mind and I have.
I expressed doubts a number of times, she has constantly refused to accept any money from me and continues to do so in order to prove her sincerity. The challenge of living in this atrocious environment means that financial worries are at the forefront of any filipna's mind. There is no benefits system there after all. So don't work - don't eat. It should not become a taboo subject.
If I included details of every point of contact, whether the calls I made were to landlines or cellular (all were to cellphones as it happens)and the relationship of all these contacts to Lyn then I may be asking for advice on whether to go ahead with things. As it stands I have satisfied the majority of my queries. Besides I can only really be scammed if I am sending money - which isn't happening, I can't afford to support her like that. It seems to me that most relationships of this type begin in a way that mirrors a potemtial scammer and at some point we need to recognise that it's less than 5% of them and move on.
I never said she was in the group that was massacred at any point - clearly this was not the case. She was injured by stray gunfire when the goverment troops and police went into the region to disarm the clan. Gung ho soliders and police - not a good combo. I have now spoken to her and she is in some distress and pain. She is returning to her apartment on Saturday we hope and I will continue to talk with her from then. Her mother is going to join her there and help her out while she is recovering from this.
Noel
.... and as I also stated ... I'd love to be proven wrong
But too many ambiguious events / things that don't add up for my liking,
But, hell, I ain't the one who's in love with her.
If it works out..... I'll be honestly HAPPY for you.
Everyone deserves some happiness in their lives
I guess time will tell, eh ?
No man is an island, but Barry is
Not picking holes in your story Oak,but have you ever actually seen anyone who has been shot?Take it from me,shot twice on Monday and getting out of hospital on Saturday?That just doesnt happen mate,factual,trust me on that
The gunmen havent been disarmed nor as far as I am aware were any civilians wounded when the army moved into the area,and thats straight from a friend on Bombo Radio,dont shoot me,I am only the messenger but fact no civvies were shot by army nor police following the massacre,there was no follow up gun battle nor indiscriminate fire as the killers had already vacated the scene of the crime
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
To be honest this thread has completely destroyed my confidence in the whole thing. If I'm being played then it seems a very elaborate story and set of cirumstances for **** all in return.
Frankly I can't really cope with it any more so I am just going to end this, my search and my involvement with this forum really.
I mean what's the point.
Noel
Its not that Noel,but when you said your lady had been shot I contacted a friend who works for Bombo(they lost 2 or 3 anchor/reporters in the massacre)I asked which Hospital any locals injured were in,she told me no locals were killed nor injured in any follow ups by friendly forces
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Hi Noel This is so sad to hear and i will pray that she will recover soon.
Please keep us posted ok
Ron
Hang around mate.
You will be glad....
I think it might be best to stop any further speculation on this thread and wait for Noel to hear any subsequent developments
Korrek ka dyann....
ok so I spat my dummy out.
It's true I don't know what to think. I respect what Tawi has to say because of his/her posts always being so well informed and up to date.
I don't want to be wrong, obviously, but I can't be scammed because no cash is leaving here. The packages I sent contained an old cellphone and...chocolate. She asked me to send thm to this address in General Santos because she said the post was unreliable out in the sticks where she is - I didn't know either way really so I went along with it.
I think with all this speculation it may be true that I am being set up for something big, I had read that scammers prefer quick in and quick out kind of arrangements but perhaps I have a patient one.
My intention now is simply to let this run it's course and behave safely. As long as I am not parting with cash then the scammer is not succeeding. There is still a plan in place to meet in April. The venue for our meeting had recently been changed so we could meet at her parents place, so I'll just go along with that happening.
I'm on my guard now - just have to hope for the best. And thankyou, I understand that remarks are not deliberately malicious, but come from a desire to help me
Noel x
Dont worry about it,everyone spits their dummy out on occassion,the bad thing is spitting the fluff out when we put it back in our mouthsshe is 7500 miles away,things happen,it will all play out the way its supposed to in the end anyway,whether for good or for bad,but its never wrong to question things or be a little cynical or guarded,its healthy,whatever way it goes be lucky
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Yes stick around Noel, don't throw in the towel.
As much as anything, we don't like seeing people being hurt...These long distance relationships, are really hard at times, for everyone who gets themselves involved in them.
Many have been through some rough times, in the process of finding happiness, I'd include myself in that.
Me tooMany have been through some rough times, in the process of finding happiness, I'd include myself in that.
mmmm... I smell something fishy...
Glad, you get what other members says....they just want to help, we hate people being hurt here in the forum
Better clarify something I said yesterday on Bombo losing 2 or 3 reporters/anchors,they lost one full time employee and two freelancers who were helping him cover the election.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
hi noel, its a good idea to stay with the forum and keep us posted of whats going on. i think you are intelligent enough to figure out for yourself as time goes by whats going on
hmmm... no one survived the massacre in Maguindanao.. there was a witness who was also one of the men who fired the gun.... is Jonalyn was one of the survivors.. she won't be in a remote area but in a big hospial and reporters would be hounding her 24/7...
yeah... i'd like to know how she got shot...
hi noel, its a good idea to stay with the forum and keep us posted of whats going on. i think you are intelligent enough to figure out for yourself as time goes by whats going onwith my friend's sentiments, Noel ... and would urge you to stick around, as we really ARE a friendly bunch here. If any of the posts on this thread seemed either insensitive or cynical, it's because they're based on the recent experiences of two of our number who, to all intents and purposes, APPEAR to've been duped big-time by their womenfolk, and we're anxious to forestall the possibility of it happening again.
I do hope you will understand our reasoning.
Well folks
Looks like I'm not getting any more answers. Since asking for specific details on this latest injury and a number of other things...zilch..wall of silence
Can't get hold of her - she don't call me - nothing.
So thats that then.
Still it's just a setback. I am now forearmed aren't I?
So am starting my search again and taking it slow
Noel x
You called her bluff Noel,asked for specifics and she has clammed up,never take anything as gospel,some of us have lived over there,or been around for a while,she was always chatty and vocal before your request for specifics now theres a wall of silence?Silence sometimes says a lot more than mere words can.
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Tawi I hereby appoint you my chaperone - any future candidates will be directed to you for vetting :P
If they are in Mindanao I can always get behind the scenes profiles on them
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Am sorry to hear it and can imagine how you feel. Its hard to get to know someone well (or think you have) and then it all suddenly ends, especially if you find out that they were not what you thought. It seems like it was made up, but I wonder why? Unless she had something further planned? Do you know if she did definitely live in the area where she said she did? And don't worry, no-one will think that you're stupid or had bad judgement. Others on here have found out that the lady they were in contact with wasn't genuine and sadly I guess you won't be the last. I guess if we are genuine and honest ourselves, then we think that others are the same and can be a bit too trusting sometimes. Sean (Northener on here) had been scammed before, but later met a lovely lady who he flew out and met just recently (there is a blog on his trip below).
I wonder if there is anywhere on the site (an old thread etc) that has things to look out for if someone isn't genuine or setting you up to scam them? As when you are new to long-distance-relationships, you don't always know of what to look out for and the signs that might say that they are not genuine.
You can never cover all the bases or plan for every contingency,there isnt anyone qualified to write a definitive guide to scammers because no one has experience enough and its normally learnt experience and intuition,no one can write a book on negotiating through the minefield of online dating without experiencing lots of women,and by the time you have gained the knowledge you are finally married having waded through a quagmire of unsatisfactory ladies,the scammers are constantly upgrading their ploys,coming up with new schemes,hitting it from a different angle,perhaps she wasnt interested in money but was playing a long term deception angling for the golden-ticket AKA a visa,no one knows,we are all individuals and have different things ticking away in our noggins,I had someone offer to buy me a ticket to fly to Pinas so there are genuine ladies out there
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
Sorry to hear about this noel, i wish you all the best on your future search and i agree with you on taking it slow next time
"10% of life is made up of what happens to you, 90% is decided by how you react"
"The way to love anything is to realize that it may be lost"
Thanks for all the comments. Although I threw myself into this whole venture, I am a man of certain life experience and so I'm always prepared for disappointment.
It has failed because partly 1 person was wicked and partly I wanted to succeed at the first time of asking marginally more than seeing ticks in all the boxes. It's nice to feel love after many years of bitterness followed by loneliness. So that would be my excuse,
End of the day I'm still available...anyone introduce me to anyone? :P
Noel x
Gimmee a few days Noel,I know a lady,a looker with smarts,cant remember what she is to be honest?A lawyer I think
Best anti-scam write up I remember seeing on here was Northerners,he detailed and listed a number of different ladies types and their techniques
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
What are you looking for Noel?What attributes,physical characteristics etc?
Sometimes you're flush and sometimes you're bust, and when you're up, it's never as good as it seems, and when you're down, you never think you'll be up again. But life goes on.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair. The beauty of a woman is seen in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides. True beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It's the passion that she shows to the outside world.
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